putrevus Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said: He is a legside hack Well, he did well in IPL for 3 years , but never performed well in National Level I know he beat the crap out of Bhuvneswar Kumar but it's hard to take IPL seriously I actually feel we don't have anymore proper options for wicketkeeping after Dhoni. Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk So how can Dinesh Karthik get third ,fourth and fifth chances but we dismiss a 20 year as a hack. What has Dinesh Karthik shown internationally in last 10 years which we can say for sure he is an upgrade over Pant. Link to comment
Garuda Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, putrevus said: Parthiv Patel was 17 when he made his debut, Sachin was 16, I don't think age should hinder selection.Karthik had his chances ,there is a chance of this kid will losing his confidence and we might end up losing a real talent. I have not seen infusion of fresh talent from this selection committee and they keep going back to these TTFs. Sachin is the exception that proves the rule. Parthiv didnt grab the opportunity did he. That's what happens when you are introduced to cricket this early. As someone mentioned Pant was troubled by a local trundler in Ranji. He needs to work out his off side play like his coverdrives and cuts. He has to work out his chinks before he gets into the national squad. What test teams require is a solid wicketkeeper first and then a batsman next. Pant needs to keep wickets in domestic matches to get used to keeping for long hours. If India doesnt bowl well (which happens all the time) he needs to keep for 160 overs at a time. He has to be ready for that. This is not t20 where 20 overs of keeping and go to tonk the ball from the get go. Test teams are full of "TTFs" you dont need someone to strike the first ball to the boundary like Sehwag. I would pick Dravid over Sehwag any day of the week. UrmiSinhaRay and Turning_track 2 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said: He is a legside hack Well, he did well in IPL for 3 years , but never performed well in National Level I know he beat the crap out of Bhuvneswar Kumar but it's hard to take IPL seriously I actually feel we don't have anymore proper options for wicketkeeping after Dhoni. Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk He got 4 games in the national level. One of then he only played 3 balls. And other games were not even consistent chances he got. If it's hard to take IPL seriously, then we should get rid of the hasbeen dhoni as well right going by your logic? We have lots of options for wk after dhoni. But we won't know that because we keep giving chances to tried and tested failures so thalaiva can keep sucking up the momentum. Lala, UrmiSinhaRay and SLICKR392 1 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, Garuda said: Sachin is the exception that proves the rule. Parthiv didnt grab the opportunity did he. That's what happens when you are introduced to cricket this early. As someone mentioned Pant was troubled by a local trundler in Ranji. He needs to work out his off side play like his coverdrives and cuts. He has to work out his chinks before he gets into the national squad. What test teams require is a solid wicketkeeper first and then a batsman next. Pant needs to keep wickets in domestic matches to get used to keeping for long hours. If India doesnt bowl well (which happens all the time) he needs to keep for 160 overs at a time. He has to be ready for that. This is not t20 where 20 overs of keeping and go to tonk the ball from the get go. Test teams are full of "TTFs" you dont need someone to strike the first ball to the boundary like Sehwag. I would pick Dravid over Sehwag any day of the week. Local trundler if he can swing will trouble even Steven Smith. You cannot go by one odd performance, There is always something all players need to work on to improve their game. How was Kohli in 2008 and how is Kohli now, players improve by playing with greater talent and that applies more to younger players than older players. PP is still not enough but we cannot fault selectors for selecting him and if these bozos are waiting for a finished article in WK they will never get it. Link to comment
UrmiSinhaRay Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 He got 4 games in the national level. One of then he only played 3 balls. And other games were not even consistent chances he got. If it's hard to take IPL seriously, then we should get rid of the hasbeen dhoni as well right going by your logic? We have lots of options for wk after dhoni. But we won't know that because we keep giving chances to tried and tested failures so thalaiva can keep sucking up the momentum.I am no Dhoni FanBCCI is pretty much actively backing Pant Anyways.However , I do feel that BCCI arguably has no interest in losing some matches for the sake of the future- especially when they are already steamrolling other teams even with a visibly **** teamVirat Kohli is himself a pretty defensive player IMO- along with his ego and vested interest in becoming the biggest star of his team, I feel India might actually become a better bowling and Fielding side while having a **** batting line up.Even Cornerstone sign ups like KL Rahul don't stand a chance for greatness LMAOO.Kohli is more present oriented- he will like to win loads of matches as captain rather than loss a few to build a great team for future.Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Link to comment
MechEng Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Fans have no say in team selections Garuda, AK007, The Dark Horse and 3 others 1 2 3 Link to comment
Garuda Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 38 minutes ago, MechEng said: Fans have no say in team selections Usually for the better. Everybody has turned into an armchair expert on cricket these days. abc, UrmiSinhaRay, MechEng and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 5 hours ago, lamellavig said: Your opinion is an indicator of compromised intelligence. There is literally no logical reasoning to support Karthik over Pant. Selection of Karthik has much greater associated opportunity costs. Like the last bowl six. Tell me anothet clutch moment in Indian cricket. I have lots of patience. UrmiSinhaRay, Vilander and Garuda 1 2 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 54 minutes ago, Garuda said: Usually for the better. Everybody has turned into an armchair expert on cricket these days. Imagine that clown manaic selecting team Maggi sharma Ailiaa Rayudu Venugopal rao (Andhra quota) Dinda Ishant Ojha Powar And on and on Garuda, AK007 and Switchblade 3 Link to comment
Khota Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 5 hours ago, lamellavig said: Your opinion is an indicator of compromised intelligence. There is literally no logical reasoning to support Karthik over Pant. Selection of Karthik has much greater associated opportunity costs. 5 hours ago, lamellavig said: Your stupidity is evident because you do not allow Pant to be worked out. You do not give him a chance but still think he will be worked out. It is utter idiocy. You should never comment on cricket again. Can you take your preachy tone and stick it where sun dont shine. Your behavior is very annoying. Vilander, The Dark Horse, AK007 and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I would pick D over Pant any day if it was about TEST MATCHES. Test cricket is all about defence. Of course, ppl will support defensive cricket. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
lamellavig Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, sourab10forever said: I would pick D over Pant any day if it was about TEST MATCHES. Test cricket is all about defence. Of course, ppl will support defensive cricket. Steve Waugh and Clive Lloyd disagree Link to comment
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