Shardul Thakur named as Jasprit Bumrah’s replacement in India’s ODI squad

[Ankit_sharma03]

57 minutes ago, Lannister said:

He should've been dropped. A close ties with Dhoni has just extended his stay. 

we all think he is no special but he has only played 3 games out of which in 2 game she has done really well 

 

his debut- 7 overs 26 runs n 1 wkt with eco of 3.71

His last game - he took 4/52 in Sa

 

so 2 out of 3 games he has performed 

 

Why wud any team drop anyone who has done well ...someone who took 4/52 in his last games against Sa in Sa 

Most teams wudnt drop any youngster like that, still we did n he only came as backup 

[raki05]

21 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Kaul bowled well yesterday. Even Chahar was not bad. On a 230 pitch, they conceded 198. How was that bad? Look at England pacers.

Eng bowler themselves are ****. However you are right they don't perform that bad the pitch was extremely flat even then you can't bet your money that they can turn the course of the match like Bumrah or Bhuvi even did in few of the occasion. These bowlers will be completely uselss durin fag end of the inning especially chahar. Kaul is good option for middle over though.

[Lannister]

39 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

i dont think he has any close ties with Dhoni because even Dhoni had dropped him from CSK XI.

His performance is not up to the mark with Indian team and he should've been dropped for this Eng tour. His involvement with the CSK has helped his case for him to stay a bit longer. 

[raki05]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

They may bowl well in a few games or even for a season.

 

But this whole bunch of Unadkat, Thakur, Kaul  (  the guys who are getting selected these days )   ooze mediocrity.  They are not international class and are unlikely to succeed in the long run.

 

Only 3 types of pacers have gone on to become top international pacers.

 

1)  Genuine fast bowlers who are skilled too.

2)  Tall, hit the deck bounce bowlers who are very accurate.

3)  Highly skilled genuine swing bowlers who can hit the deck hard when needed.

 

 

Only Deepak Chahar may qualify in the 3rd category ...  that too only if he learns to hit the deck hard with consistency when needed.

 

We need to bring in or groom

Saini     1

Rajpoot    2  and 3

Khaleel  1  and  2

Avesh   1  and  2

Prasidh   2 and  3

Mavi   1 and  3

Nagarkoti    1

Siraj can qualify only if he can bowl at genuine pace as he is neither a bounce bowler nor a swing bowler.

 

The pace bowling attack as a whole should preferably have representatives of all 3 categories ...  with 2 genuine fast bowlers if possible.  We are not looking at this aspect too these days.

 

 

 

Siraj should never been tried in t20, t20 are good for mediocre bowler who tried variations. But bowlers like Siraj who is more of a rythemic bowler like Umesh should have been tried in test or odi. As t20 ruin their rythem because they try lot of variations, i think slower ones and knuckle balls are bane for for upcoming fast bowlers.

[rkt.india]

9 minutes ago, Lannister said:

His performance is not up to the mark with Indian team and he should've been dropped for this Eng tour. His involvement with the CSK has helped his case for him to stay a bit longer. 

Shardul has 5 wickets in 3 ODIs at an average of 25.  Cant call this a bad performance.  Yes, he may not be the best talent wise or someone looks international class, but if you base it on performance, he has done nothing wrong till now at least in ODIs.

[Lannister]

14 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

we all think he is no special but he has only played 3 games out of which in 2 game she has done really well 

 

his debut- 7 overs 26 runs n 1 wkt with eco of 3.71

His last game - he took 4/52 in Sa

 

so 2 out of 3 games he has performed 

 

Why wud any team drop anyone who has done well ...someone who took 4/52 in his last games against Sa in Sa 

Most teams wudnt drop any youngster like that, still we did n he only came as backup 

Anyone can easily see that he's just an average bowler. It's good that he has been selected, with Bumrah out he will most likely will play and there's no hiding from this England's batting unit. 

[rkt.india]

9 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Siraj should never been tried in t20, t20 are good for mediocre bowler who tried variations. But bowlers like Siraj who is more of a rythemic bowler like Umesh should have been tried in test or odi. As t20 ruin their rythem because they try lot of variations, i think slower ones and knuckle balls are bane for for upcoming fast bowlers.

Our present selectors are ****. why they have to debut every young player in T20. Siraj did well ranji and they gave him debut in T20s. This is mixing of formats.

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Anyone can easily see that he's just an average bowler. It's good that he has been selected, with Bumrah out he will most likely will play and there's no hiding from this England's batting unit. 

we all knw that but in team dynamics u cnt do that to a player who did well ...still he wasnt picked as 1st choice n later came as backup. At the end our opinions dnt matter team mngmt will function in their ways......it shud have been long understood that this team mngmt doesnt have much foresightness..........most good things will happen by accident or after tragedy has striked 

[Lannister]

16 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

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With the kind of performance he has in the T20 internationals, it's not that hard to guess how he will go in the ODIs. 

Edited July 10, 2018 by Lannister

[Lannister]

10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

we all knw that but in team dynamics u cnt do that to a player who did well ...still he wasnt picked as 1st choice n later came as backup. At the end our opinions dnt matter team mngmt will function in their ways......it shud have been long understood that this team mngmt doesnt have much foresightness..........most good things will happen by accident or after tragedy has striked 

No, the reason he came back in as a backup was because of his close ties with Dhoni. He has got numerous chance in T20 internationals and certainly lived up to his reputation as a trundler. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

22 minutes ago, Lannister said:

No, the reason he came back in as a backup was because of his close ties with Dhoni.

He has got numerous chance in T20 internationals and certainly lived up to his reputation as a trundler. 

came back, when was he dropped or out of favour

HE debut when he wasnt in CSK and played last Odi series for India and so where did dhoni come in 

 

He has been dropped in t20 , chahar came in. 

So why isnt jadeja picked????

[Lannister]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

came back, when was he dropped or out of favour

HE debut when he wasnt in CSK and played last Odi series for India and so where did dhoni come in 

 

He has been dropped in t20 , chahar came in. 

So why isnt jadeja picked????

The fact is he has been given a long rope even though he is just an average bowler. In India A, there were plenty of other bowlers who could have been selected as Bumrah's replacement, but no they had to choose this guy because guess what, he plays for Dhoni's team in the IPL. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

28 minutes ago, Lannister said:

The fact is he has been given a long rope even though he is just an average bowler. In India A, there were plenty of other bowlers who could have been selected as Bumrah's replacement, but no they had to choose this guy because guess what, he plays for Dhoni's team in the IPL. 

lone rope ???

He has been dropped from t20 

He did well in whatever chances he got in odi yet droppped , only came as back up

 

One got selected chahar- people also have a problem with him

Thakur was already with team so he wud have been 1st choice.......

 

Why wud he be dropped after doing well??? that the question??

 

SO by that logic whole indian team shud be CSK but their are many SRH, MI players to . Why not jadeja, bhajji (kohli loves him to )

[Forever Indian]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Our present selectors are ****. why they have to debut every young player in T20. Siraj did well ranji and they gave him debut in T20s. This is mixing of formats.

How can selectors dare to reject Kohli and Team India's vision for youngsters?

 

https://www.inuth.com/sports/cricket/ind-vs-eng-1st-t20-virat-kohli-opens-up-on-youngsters-role-and-their-importance-in-team/

 

"India’s Twenty 20 captain Virat Kohli on January 25 has said that it is important to back youngsters in the shortest format of the game so that they can gain some confidence and can take this forward in limited overs cricket and also in Test matches."

[Lannister]

40 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

lone rope ???

He has been dropped from t20 

He did well in whatever chances he got in odi yet droppped , only came as back up

If he had been dropped then why did they select him again in such a short amount of time. It's not like he became a Dale Steyn with in a few days of time. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

11 minutes ago, Lannister said:

If he had been dropped then why did they select him again in such a short amount of time. It's not like he became a Dale Steyn with in a few days of time. 

becoz he did well in watever lil chances he got

how will they not call a guy who got 4/52 in last game against Sa in SA ( now tell me thats a bad perfomance that he shud be dismissed)

U n me declaring him Avg doesnt mean team n selectors wud 

[Nikhil_cric]

 He bowled OK in that ODI in RSA. I remember Kohli saying that he hit the vat hard or something similar. But I agree with the posts above that we need atleast one tall hit the deck bowlers instead of short, fast medium bowlers. Our first ODI is at Trent Bridge of all places.  Let's hope we can restrict England to a score less than 400.

It makes me sad though - chahar, Kaul, bhuvi shardul yadav actually are simply unlucky to play in this era. Put them in a time machine back to 1999 and they would have won us that world cup. They can all hit upto 140 kph, hit the deck reasonably hard, are accurate and can generate swing just not with this kookaburra. LOI bowling is a lottery these days - 6'8" Stanlake who bowls a damn heavy ball got smacked like a trundler for 74 off 10 and 44 off 3 in the T20 against England. Shardul did decently against SA in that ODI he played there and hasn't done anything wrong so far. Like I said the rest is a lottery . You can just hope for the best.

[Lannister]

21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

becoz he did well in watever lil chances he got

how will they not call a guy who got 4/52 in last game against Sa in SA ( now tell me thats a bad perfomance that he shud be dismissed)

U n me declaring him Avg doesnt mean team n selectors wud 

Indian selectors usually treat both ODIs and T20s as same. He has failed in T20 internationals and that's the reason he was overlooked when the squads were announced. Now out of nowhere he's back in the team again. Now tell me that doesn't sound suspicious. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Indian selectors usually treat both ODIs and T20s as same. He has failed in T20 internationals and that's the reason he was overlooked when the squads were announced. Now out of nowhere he's back in the team again. Now tell me that doesn't sound suspicious. 

not really, ur admant on proving that its a csk connection that why u dnt wanan see other side

He has been dropped from t20 rightly but he has done well in odi so he has got a chance 

when was he out of radar??? he was A-tour n on last Odi series 

 

Nowere kaha se gaaya, he went nowere.....u use that term if he got selected after being dropped for months. The guy played last odi series n got 4/52 in last game who on earth wud question that 

In t20- also 7 matches- 8wkts not a bad record that they shud decide never to play him

 

Doesnt sound suspicious to me , neways cnt argue more....u hve to make connection , cnt stop bnaoo....the next time rishabh pant gets selected then also make a connection as he hung out with CSK after CSK won the tournament so he got favour . 

Edited July 10, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[putrevus]

Where are the fast bowlers who played under 19 , why are they still not making the squad at least.