Shami is 36 years old

[beetle]

23 minutes ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

 

 

What was his stream?
Arts or commerce?

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I don't know.

Just heard in his interview.

[The Dark Horse]

34 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

No way he is 36.

 

Most of the pacers struggle to hit avg 140 kph after age of 34. Indian pacers are more prone to it. 

 

Zak was hardly touching 130 when he was 33-35 and he was probably fitter than Shami.

 

Nehra and other bowlers had similar stories.

 

Only Srinath managed to keep pace after age of 32 and even he played till age of 34.

 

Won't be surprised if Shami is actually 31 or 32 max.

Why is his fitness so inconsistent then..

[speedheat]

1 minute ago, The Dark Horse said:

Why is his fitness so inconsistent then..

 

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

But Shami only showed intensity in first spell on day one.

Overbowled  may be??

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, speedheat said:

 

Overbowled  may be??

Not really.   Look at Anderson, he bowled 21 overs in 2 sessions on day 2.

[Trichromatic]

5 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

Why is his fitness so inconsistent then..

It's inconsistent, but 36 years type inconsistent. It's still as good as 30-32 type consistency.

[UrmiSinhaRay]

I don't know.
Just heard in his interview.

Hmm....
BTW, I suddenly got reminded that Dhokla Fry Axar Patel dropped out of engineering to be a cricketer.


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Just now, UrmiSinhaRay said:

Hmm....
BTW, I suddenly got reminded that Dhokla Fry Axar Patel dropped out of engineering to be a cricketer.


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He's at least making more in cricket, instead of frying Dhokla 

[The Dark Horse]

5 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

It's inconsistent, but 36 years type inconsistent. It's still as good as 30-32 type consistency.

We'll find that out in this test series..I was actually blaming Kohli for not playing Shami in CT, but it there's more to it than that.

[speedheat]

7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Not really.   Look at Anderson, he bowled 21 overs in 2 sessions on day 2.

Well Anderson was trundling badly, 128-133kph, where as shami bowled with good healthy pace 135-146kph not that a 36 yr old would in a test match, I think he bowled some 5-6 overseas on trot with good pace in England's second innings.

[UrmiSinhaRay]

He's at least making more in cricket, instead of frying Dhokla 

But how many days?
Paisa toh banahi liya but he's defo on his way out.
How many days will Niranjan Shah continue to support him?

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[rkt.india]

18 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

It's inconsistent, but 36 years type inconsistent. It's still as good as 30-32 type consistency.

no. yadav is 31 and look at his fitness.

[rkt.india]

16 minutes ago, speedheat said:

Well Anderson was trundling badly, 128-133kph, where as shami bowled with good healthy pace 135-146kph not that a 36 yr old would in a test match, I think he bowled some 5-6 overseas on trot with good pace in England's second innings.

What pace Anderson was bowling is not that point, point is bowling with intensity even if you bowl at 135.  Pace goes down due top wears and tears over the years. Anderson is playing international cricket now since 2003 and is test regular at least since 2007, has bowled 70K deliveries in his career.  You lose pace because of that wear and tear and not because of fitness.  Akhtar was unfit at 36 but he still hit 150K.  What fitness does is help maintain your intensity whichever pace you bowl.

[speedheat]

12 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

What pace Anderson was bowling is not that point, point is bowling with intensity even if you bowl at 135.  Pace goes down due top wears and tears over the years. Anderson is playing international cricket now since 2003 and is test regular at least since 2007, has bowled 70K deliveries in his career.  You lose pace because of that wear and tear and not because of fitness.  Akhtar was unfit at 36 but he still hit 150K.  What fitness does is help maintain your intensity whichever pace you bowl.

Yes wear n tear is a factor but it also depends on individuals mussel strength, Anderson isn't bowling at the same pace like he was at 30-32 years old, akhtar was a freak but no he didn't bowl 150kph at 36 yr of age at 36 in 2011 WC he bowled one at 149kph n 1 at 159kph both of them were glitches however he was still around 137kph to 145k

[asterix]

He looks fitter than Yaddu... also has brains... Anybody who’s a playa will have brains...

[rkt.india]

13 minutes ago, asterix said:

He looks fitter than Yaddu... also has brains... Anybody who’s a playa will have brains...

not fitter than yadav at all.

[express bowling]

 

From 2016, he is averaging 23.98 with a SR of 47.6 from 19 test matches , which includes 8 tests outside Asia.

 

He is bowling 132 k to 147 k. 

 

I don't care whether he is  5 or 85.

 

 

[express bowling]

I doubt that a 34 year old can average around 138 k with a fastest of 144 k to 147 k in almost every match he plays.

Edited August 5, 2018 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

I doubt that a 34 year old can average 138 k with a fastest of 144 k to 147 k in almost every match he plays.

yes, he can if he has not played or bowled a lot in his career and high school marksheet will not lie.  Mitch Johnson and Ryan Haris are examples of high pace at that age. 

Edited August 5, 2018 by rkt.india

[rkt.india]

8 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

From 2016, he is averaging 23.98 with a SR of 47.6 from 19 test matches , which includes 8 tests outside Asia.

 

He is bowling 132 k to 147 k. 

 

I don't care whether he is  5 or 85.

 

 

my issue is maintaining that intensity in 2nd and third spell of the day, which he has been struggling to do since SA tour.  At home, it gets easier as a spinners take the center stage, bowl a lot and fast bowlers get a lot of rest in between spells and bowls far less overs than they do overseas.

[express bowling]

12 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

my issue is maintaining that intensity in 2nd and third spell of the day, which he has been struggling to do since SA tour.  At home, it gets easier as a spinners take the center stage, bowl a lot and fast bowlers get a lot of rest in between spells and bowls far less overs than they do overseas.

 

His intensity was high in the 1st and 3rd sessions of the day.  At this time he was hitting the deck and going for seam movement and pace.

 

In the 2nd session,  the ball was swinging a lot, so he went for swing. He is not a proper swing bowler and never looks good when he floats the ball up.  The same thing happened in the 2nd innings first spell.

 

Shami looks good when he goes for pace.  His reduced intensity in certain spells outside Asia has more to do wrong choice of bowling style than fitness.

Edited August 5, 2018 by express bowling