England vs India, 5th Test, 7th-11th Sept - The Oval

[putrevus]

9 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said:

Captain looked clueless on most ocassion, dropped catches in slip still hung around there to drop few more, had no planning how to finish off the tail inspite of them doing really well in all matches. Didn't rotate bowlers well, bad selection.

Coach' job is to work with players in the tour, make them better, arrange practice matches, work on their weaknesses, make tactical decisions etc.

All these above looked missing in the entire series. Hence we are where we are.

England has best tail in world so naturally they will hand around longer along with India's lack of flatout pace bowlers. 

 

Coach can only do so much if batsmen are inept no coach has magic wand to turn these inept batsmen into competent bunch.This is fifth match and yet batsmen in this team have no clue how to bat

 

The main reason why they are winning and we are losing this series is not coaching or captaincy but inept and gutless batting.

Edited September 9, 2018 by putrevus

[RAZPOR]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

England has best tail in world so naturally they will hand around longer along with India's lack of flatout pace bowlers. 

 

Coach can only do so much if batsmen are inept no coach has magic wand to turn these inept batsmen into competent bunch.This is fifth match and yet batsmen in this team have no clue how to ba

 

The main reason why they are winning and we are losing this series is not coaching or captaincy but inept and gutless batting.

Everyone knows batting sucked,that doesn't mean captaincy and selection has not been worse.

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, RAZPOR said:

Everyone knows batting sucked,that doesn't mean captaincy and selection has not been worse.

what selection mistakes except one glaring mistake of selecting Kuldeep in lords, I don't think they had any other mistakes. Ashwin was lead spinner and was given every chance to prove himself along with openers  who also were given full series to prove themselves.

 

Show me one captain who gets all things right on field.That batting which stunk is the reason why they have lost this series nothing else is that glaring.

[Shunya]

Happy to see Vihari and Jaddu teaching all noobs in the dressing room how to bat.... BAtting lower down the order should be easier ofcourse but our lower order had been appalling all series long... England has won mostly based on scores from lower order

 

Already score 113 runs which is more than combined score of both innings by the lower order... Pandya, Pant & Ashwin has failed big time just like top order batters, but they had better conditions and returns have been ridiculous

 

Runs by no 6-11 in this series

Test1

1inn - 40 out of 274 - 0,22,10,2,5,1

2inn - 75 out of 162 - 13,20,31,0,11,0

 

Test 2

1inn - 51 out of 107 - 11,1,29,0,10,0

2inn - 61 out of 130 - 26,0,33,0,0,2

 

Test 3

1inn - 60 out of 329 - 18,24,14,1,3,0

2inn - 57 out of 352/7dec - 1,52,3,1,dnb,dnb

 

Test4

1inn - 25 out of 273 - 0,4,1,0,14,6

2inn - 51 out of 184 - 0,18,25,0,8,0

 

Test5

1inn - 113 out of 240/7** - 56,5,41*,1*, dnb, dnb

 

Edited September 9, 2018 by Shunya

[mishra]

15 minutes ago, putrevus said:

what selection mistakes except one glaring mistake of selecting Kuldeep in lords, I don't think they had any other mistakes. Ashwin was lead spinner and was given every chance to prove himself along with openers  who also were given full series to prove themselves.

 

Show me one captain who gets all things right on field.That batting which stunk is the reason why they have lost this series nothing else is that glaring.

1-4 instead of 3-2 , and you are still defending selection. Bhai, this English side hasnpoorest batting and clueless bowling. Captaincy wise, We lost 2 matches to Curran and Ali as bat.

third in progress to Butler as bat.

Kohli dont know anything about Captaincy.

He is making blunders on field.

For example not even ine over Vihari has faced and Nasir says his head is falling and what bowl the bowler should ball. Now thats what captain needs, i.e. cricketing knowledge

Edited September 9, 2018 by mishra

[zen]

was expecting Ind to get around 250 .... come on lads, get us close to 300 

[Laaloo]

Lol moeen Ali

 

 

[putrevus]

The more I see Ali taking wickets ,more angrier I am getting on Ashwin.

[GautiMaan]

Time for some Jaddugiri

[Sgattick10]

30 minutes ago, putrevus said:

England has best tail in world so naturally they will hand around longer along with India's lack of flatout pace bowlers. 

 

Coach can only do so much if batsmen are inept no coach has magic wand to turn these inept batsmen into competent bunch.This is fifth match and yet batsmen in this team have no clue how to bat

 

The main reason why they are winning and we are losing this series is not coaching or captaincy but inept and gutless batting.

Lol thats what the coach's job is. To make them better not worse. Also tactically we were outplayed by England. When u have a sleepy drunk coach and a captain drunk on power, there's very little scope for improvement. Blunders of selection must fall on captain and coach. 

[Laaloo]

Adil Rashid 7 overs 11 runs

 

 

[Sgattick10]

Jaddu need to get his beast mode on.

[Sgattick10]

And Jaddu gets to do his talwar baazi lol 

[Ankit_sharma03]

i wonder what will he do if he makes a 100 

[GautiMaan]

Dusted off his sword as well,thats quite intelligent

[zen]

50 up for Jadeja 

[Shunya]

50 for Jaddu.... gujju power 

Return of the king... * ashwin...should not be picked again

Edited September 9, 2018 by Shunya

[Sgattick10]

Lol Shami. 

[putrevus]

9 minutes ago, mishra said:

1-4 instead of 3-2 , and you are still defending selection. Bhai, this English side hasnpoorest batting and clueless bowling. Captaincy wise, We lost 2 matches to Curran and Ali as bat.

third in progress to Butler as bat.

Kohli dont know anything about Captaincy.

He is making blunders on field.

For example not even ine over Vihari has faced and Nasir says his head is falling and what bowl the bowler should ball. Now thats what captain needs, i.e. cricketing knowledge

Who said England has poorest batting side,They have the best lower bottom order in the world. Ali and Bulter are real assets and they have scored against all attacks atleast at home. Curran has been the find of this season for them.No one scorer 500 runs in a series without having a talent .Butler is very talented batsman.

 

After the fact everyone is a great captain. 

[zen]

8 minutes ago, Shunya said:

.... gujjus power 

Pujara, Pandya, Jadeja, Bumrah 

Edited September 9, 2018 by zen