Austin 3:!6 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, velu said: never seen him getting out to bouncers or short balls .. infact he is one the guys who break the balls with fierce pulls Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Don't know what is the problem with these ex players.... even with those who are perceived to have a bit more sense than normal like Ganguly.... Rohit has a proven track record of failing in all 4 of SENA. It has been only in NZL that he is some what succesful with just 40 avg:. Even it is far from convincing with a very small sample size. The best bet in AUS still is Vijay with and emphatic record in AUS with vast experience to go with it. He and Shaw(if he becomes successful .His fearless youth approach with a clear positive mind can bring in at least 2 or 3 reasonably big scores I suppose, just like Sehwag) can lay the foundation for the rest of the inns. Link to comment
velu Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Laaloo said: Lol I like how you managed to sneak in thakaiva there... dhoni is crap against spin .. he is damn good against pace and bounce and good agaisnt swing .. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, velu said: yeah .. but ganguly was half the same batsmen after his weakness vs bounce got exposed by flintoff and akhtar but he did play decently unlike raina there are batsmen who are good against bounce .. rohit , kohli , dhoni etc are all good agaisnt bounce Those are just two examples though and pretty extreme. We rarely saw ganguly struggle against others. That odi against akhtar he was bowling with genuine pace. Ganguly has that 144 at Brisbane. He also has that knock at joburg and even that Delhi test in 2007. Edited October 23, 2018 by Laaloo Austin 3:!6 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, UnknownGenius said: Failure of a test batsman despite been given chance after chance too bat when there is no swing etc Joke if he makes a return Can we blame BML as well this time? Bengali mafia lobby? Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said: Don't know what is the problem with these ex players.... even with those who are perceived to have a bit more sense than normal like Ganguly.... Rohit has a proven track record of failing in all 4 of SENA. It has been only in NZL that he is some what succesful with just 40 avg:. Even it is far from convincing with a very small sample size. The best bet in AUS still is Vijay with and emphatic record in AUS with vast experience to go with it. He and Shaw(if he becomes successful .His fearless youth approach with a clear positive mind can bring in at least 2 or 3 reasonably big scores I suppose, just like Sehwag) can lay the foundation for the rest of the inns. I can understand where Ganguly is coming from and he is not totally wrong tbh. Rohit is decent against bounce and someone who got good pull shots. He likes the ball comes to the bat nicely. Australian tracks have everything that Rohit fancies and to top it all there are no banana swings with Kookkaburra balls. But the point which Ganguly is missing is the bowling attack of Starc-Hazelwood-Cummins is world class and a proven test failure like Rohit will struggle against them (not the conditions). Even Dhawan will be better in Australia compared to how he did in Eng. But no point in going back and we must stick to Shaw-Rahul for now. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: I can understand where Ganguly is coming from and he is not totally wrong tbh. Rohit is decent against bounce and someone who got good pull shots. He likes the ball comes to the bat nicely. Australian tracks have everything that Rohit fancies and to top it all there are no banana swings with Kookkaburra balls. But the point which Ganguly is missing is the bowling attack of Starc-Hazelwood-Cummins is world class and a proven test failure like Rohit will struggle against them (not the conditions). Even Dhawan will be better in Australia compared to how he did in Eng. But no point in going back and we must stick to Shaw-Rahul for now. what is the problem with Vijay? Is he over aged?? Was he a failure in AUS?? Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, velu said: never seen him getting out to bouncers or short balls .. infact he is one the guys who break the balls with fierce pulls bounce does not mean bouncer or short ball. Switchblade, Adi BB, velu and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 54 minutes ago, velu said: dhoni is crap against spin .. he is damn good against pace and bounce and good agaisnt swing .. Yeah he is good against pace but pace anything less than 137kph phaaaastt alas methews,Faulkner, thissara, pehlu.. Link to comment
velu Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, speedheat said: Yeah he is good against pace but pace anything less than 137kph phaaaastt alas methews,Faulkner, thissara, pehlu.. ask dale steyn Link to comment
Laaloo Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, speedheat said: Yeah he is good against pace but pace anything less than 137kph phaaaastt alas methews,Faulkner, thissara, pehlu.. Credit where credit due. He was damn good against akhtar and padosi pacers when he first came up and I think he did well against malinga also. Although it's hard to find a good innings by dhoni against a genuine pacer in the last 5 years or probably even farther back. It's been a long time. Two of dhonis good innings in the last few years came against england trundlers and his boi thisara perera. speedheat and velu 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Credit where credit due. He was damn good against akhtar and padosi pacers when he first came up and I think he did well against malinga also. Although it's hard to find a good innings by dhoni against a genuine pacer in the last 5 years or probably even farther back. It's been a long time. Two of dhonis good innings in the last few years came against england trundlers and his boi thisara perera. But problem is velu is Playing old tapes of dhoni smashing pacers and thinking it to be live.. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
GolGappe Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Big NO! Rohit has been tried and tested failure. Invest in the next generation please. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, WC2011INDIA said: I approve. Bunty Sajdah caught pants down velu and Switchblade 2 Link to comment
Adi BB Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Silly idea for the future,he is just not meant for test cricket Link to comment
Clarke Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Dada for all his strengths had his flaws as well. He was very keen to get yuvi settling into the test XI. Viru was an exception to the rule that good technique is necessary for success in tests. It doesn't mean that good strokeplayers can all be good test players. I'm all for Rohit ahead of say Rahane in Asia but not so in SENA. Link to comment
velu Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Laaloo said: Credit where credit due. He was damn good against akhtar and padosi pacers when he first came up and I think he did well against malinga also. Although it's hard to find a good innings by dhoni against a genuine pacer in the last 5 years or probably even farther back. It's been a long time. Two of dhonis good innings in the last few years came against england trundlers and his boi thisara perera. he regularly smashed bowlers like steyn , bhuvi in IPLs .. genuine pace is good for him , he dont need to middle it to clear the fence because of his stance he cant hit wide , full , outside the off balls well , so he leave it expecting it to be given wide but use to get klpd .. but he is clueless against spin , his game totally deteriorated against spin .. Link to comment
Laaloo Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 38 minutes ago, velu said: he regularly smashed bowlers like steyn , bhuvi in IPLs .. genuine pace is good for him , he dont need to middle it to clear the fence because of his stance he cant hit wide , full , outside the off balls well , so he leave it expecting it to be given wide but use to get klpd .. but he is clueless against spin , his game totally deteriorated against spin .. I was hoping for examples other than IPL. You know IPL is not serious cricket. Heck do you see anyone on this forum even take or refer to IPL stats? Link to comment
velu Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Laaloo said: I was hoping for examples other than IPL. You know IPL is not serious cricket. Heck do you see anyone on this forum even take or refer to IPL stats? bowlers wont suddenly turn crap in IPL .. infact quality of the IPL teams are far better than international teams ronaldo is remembered not for what did for Portugal , messi is remebered for what he is doing it for barcelona Link to comment
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