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[zen]

4 hours ago, rtmohanlal said:

just don't know why you try to defend him wiith these senseless  stats filtrations.  ..... now taking only last 2 years data......for what ??? we are here talking about Pujara's performance in SENA  from his batting position in his entire career.You are bringing Rahane who has done lot more than Pujara in SENA from his batting position in his entire career. And to suit your motive you conveniently  filters out last 2 years only.

I am not defending Rahane  or  any other player by any means.They all have short comings as of now. For instance take Rahane. He needs to perform  in this series because his strong zone is in SENA barring ENG.Naturally if he is not upto the mark in this series , he needs to be dropped. Just stating that ,from the performance till now Pujara has  been the most inadequate. That's it. If you do not feel  otherwise, so be it

Those were SENA stats and right now he is ahead of others (best top order batsman and 2nd best overall) .... And in Asia, he is Bradmanisque and one of the best players of spin .... Thank you!

Edited December 2, 2018 by zen

[Vijy]

10 hours ago, zen said:

 

 

what is the obsession with Pujara?    

 

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Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
V Kohli	8	16	0	879	153	54.93	1500	58.60	3	4	1	102	1
CA Pujara	7	14	1	378	132*	29.07	1068	35.39	1	2	2	48	0
AM Rahane	6	12	0	314	81	26.16	734	42.77	0	2	1	34	0
KL Rahul	7	14	0	329	149	23.50	551	59.70	1	0	2	48	1
HH Pandya	7	14	1	283	93	21.76	461	61.38	0	2	2	42	2
R Ashwin	6	12	2	216	38	21.60	321	67.28	0	0	0	33	1

Clearly, everyone has been pathetic barring VK. Not surprising.

[zen]

14 minutes ago, Vijy said:

Clearly, everyone has been pathetic barring VK. Not surprising.

In a way, outside Asia, we are more like a Kohli + Bumrah team 

[Vijy]

5 minutes ago, zen said:

In a way, outside Asia, we are more like a Kohli + Bumrah team  

The bowlers underperformed in crucial moments, but I would not say that they did badly... mostly because the conditions were so helpful to them. Hence, I think outside Asia we are: 1 batsman (Kohli) and 2-3 bowlers.

[Tridibans_16]

This team is all talk and no substance. We ended up losing in SA after being in a position to win both the tests that we lost.

 

In England, any no.1 team would have won the 1st test.

[Vilander]

If they play as well as they did in England or will be 4 - 0 for India

[CricketInsider]

17 hours ago, rtmohanlal said:

spot on ... he even can't differentiate between 'different roles  for different batting positions'... it seems.... He, for some reasons tries to defend this mediocre batsmen( utter mediocre in SENA + WI even after 8 series in these countries) at any cost.

he can't even differentiate between Kohli and Rahane. he expected Rahane to score same number of runs in Australian test series as Kohli

That tells me all I need to know 

[zen]

13 hours ago, Vijy said:

The bowlers underperformed in crucial moments, but I would not say that they did badly... mostly because the conditions were so helpful to them. Hence, I think outside Asia we are: 1 batsman (Kohli) and 2-3 bowlers.

Yup, the bowlers usually need ideal conditions and/or a tremendous spell that changes the game (Pandya's spell for e.g.) 

[SK_IH]

13 hours ago, Tridibans_16 said:

This team is all talk and no substance. We ended up losing in SA after being in a position to win both the tests that we lost.

 

In England, any no.1 team would have won the 1st test.

yep its a team full of pretenders. Lacks quality and resilience.

[vvvslaxman]

You cannot hope win a series based on the mediocrity of the opposition rather than your superiority. Might work against Bangladesh, West Indies not against teams like Australia. 

[Global.Baba]

Lack of planning,vision and most importantly practice.

[Tridibans_16]

Watching highlights of last years Ashes, I am really worried about our batting. Hazelwood/ Cummins/ Starc is a deadly combo upfront. Also Lyon had single handedly won Aus the Adelaide test in 2014. 

[zen]

If Aus wins 4-0, they are likely to become #1 ranked side. More motivation for them to fire all cylinders 

[Sloane84]

It was only recently that it was India's best chance to win in England.

Then look at what happened.

Now here we go again.

India playing Australia in Australia.

This is a no-brainer.

Aussies to win 3-1.

 

[rtmohanlal]

Badly wiish Kohli  win at least 2 tosses unlike that 'toss disaster' in ENG.

[zen]

Most likely it will be green pitch at Adelaide -> Link

[cowboysfan]

OP forgot the most important thing in away games,winning the *ing toss.

[cowboysfan]

On 12/1/2018 at 5:12 PM, vvvslaxman said:

I am not sure why we think it is the best chance to win in Australia? We had Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman, Ganguly, Sehwag, Kumble. THey had no McGrath, Warne. We could only draw that series. Sure this is probably one of the worst AUstralian side. Same way this is one of the worst Indian team to tour Australia. 

 

clear delusion,nothing this team has done in recent series inspires confidence especially on flat aussie tracks.

[zen]

3 hours ago, cowboysfan said:

OP forgot the most important thing in away games,winning the *ing toss.

Winning or losing the toss is not in our hands but how we apply ourselves in the field is .... To be a good team overseas, we have to learn to take advantage of opportunities and make a comeback in the series 

Edited December 4, 2018 by zen

[diga]

18 hours ago, Global.Baba said:

Lack of planning,vision and most importantly practice.

Ask Bewda..