SrinjayDutta Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Best examples of Sachin's clutch innings is: 1998 desert storm and 2008 cb series. He got crucial wickets in Adilaede and Eden tests. If you remember Compaq cup 2009 final, he played well. Link to comment
Laaloo Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: What happened in 2003 WC final then. Indian team had the best batting lineup. Sehwag, Ganguly, and even Dravid played a better innings than Sachin. He hit a four and out. If he had stayed with Sehwag, we had a chance. It shows he's a choker when it mattered the most. Lot of people are questioning Kohli's WC performance and regard Dhawan and Rohit as a clutch player. If that is so, why not question Sachin. Say all you want about 2011 WC but it took a clutch innings from Dhoni to finish it. If it wasnt for Yuvi, Dhoni and Raina, India wouldn't have won the cup. Dhoni is an obviously inferior player to Sachin, but when it comes to pulling the trigger Dhoni is a better matchwinner. You will miss him when hes gone. One can only hope DK, Pant, and Pandya carry his legacy of finishing games. I cannot recall how many times we lost 50-50 matches before Dhoni. We were called always a bridesmaid never the bride for a while. Rasgulla, mancalledsting, flamy and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Sachin vs Pak 2003 was not a knockout match. We had already qualified by that stage. 2011 was an ugly innings by everyone. In terms of impact, that match was won because of Sehwag's blistering start, Raina and Harbhajan's clutch finish and all our bowlers contributing to the win. I will say the bowling won us the match 260 was a sh1t score. And btw sachin was dropped 5 times lol Isn't India vs Pak in a major tournament the biggest game in International cricket?? Rasgulla and flamy 2 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, SrinjayDutta said: But still those runs were crucial. Nobody asked greenbros to drop them. Sachin was struggling but intermittently timing very well also, a strange kind of innings. Both Sachin and the greenbros choked. I could see how much the pressure got to him after Sehwag got out. Dhoni was also poor. Our batting was shabby and we won because of our bowling and fielding. Its just a matter of how much in a pressure situation. Sehwag, Raina, Harbhajan, Munaf, Zaheer, Nehra, Yuvi (bowling) were clutch. Only Wahab Riaz, Chuckmal and Afridi to some extent were clutch. Switchblade, Rasgulla and Laaloo 2 1 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, mancalledsting said: Isn't India vs Pak in a major tournament the biggest game in International cricket?? To me, World cup knockouts have more meaning than a group game. I know its Pakistan but still a group game in 2003 Rasgulla and Laaloo 1 1 Link to comment
SrinjayDutta Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Both Sachin and the greenbros choked. I could see how much the pressure got to him after Sehwag got out. Dhoni was also poor. Our batting was shabby and we won because of our bowling and fielding. Its just a matter of how much in a pressure situation. Sehwag, Raina, Harbhajan, Munaf, Zaheer, Nehra, Yuvi (bowling) were clutch. Only Wahab Riaz, Chuckmal and Afridi to some extent were clutch. The most crucial bit in that match was raina's cameo imo. Bowlers were brilliant, even munaf Patel Rasgulla, Switchblade and Real McCoy 3 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, SrinjayDutta said: Best examples of Sachin's clutch innings is: 1998 desert storm and 2008 cb series. He got crucial wickets in Adilaede and Eden tests. If you remember Compaq cup 2009 final, he played well. Still those were not WC innings. Can you beat Ricky Ponting's 140 in a WC final. Desert storm was great but they didnt have Mcgrath and Gillespie. It pains me when some people mention CB series as a monumental achievement. Havent other teams win traingular or multinational tournaments in India. Yes he did well in that series. Compaq cup? LOL. I don't even remember it. Its that obscure. Kohli gets a lot of flak for winning cycle agarbathi series and laying an egg in WCs. Supposedly Dhawan and Rohit are better in WC. Why not make the same case for Sachin Switchblade, Laaloo and Rasgulla 1 1 1 Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: To me, World cup knockouts have more meaning than a group game. I know its Pakistan but still a group game in 2003 ok for most Indians and Pakistanis- India/Pak game is right up there Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, SrinjayDutta said: The most crucial bit in that match was raina's cameo imo. Bowlers were brilliant, even munaf Patel He got Hafeez who had a start. I think he had a 40 something. He also got rid of Razzaq who I consider to be more dangerous than Afridi. I don't rate him but he did a brilliant job in that game Laaloo, SrinjayDutta, Rasgulla and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, mancalledsting said: ok for most Indians and Pakistanis- India/Pak game is right up there Yes I agree. But people will remember the 2011 win more than 2015 Adelaide drubbing because 2011 was a SF Laaloo and Rasgulla 1 1 Link to comment
Clarke Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 This thread is the level of what was referred to as lahori logic. Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I'm also sure Pant wont choke in a WC final like Sachin. SRT in WC final appearance - 2. Chokes - 2. Rasgulla and Laaloo 1 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 4 hours ago, speedheat said: Op must be the hundredth fake id generated by electronic machine like you.. Shamelessly bringing irrelevant topics into discussions when you can't defend the most useless wicket keeper bat in test matches for India..pant is hell-bent in exposing that fraudster now. Deal with it! Warning:,Kindly refresh your c.p.u. Now. BOT... Welcome back BOT. Been long time.. finally out of your little hole. Nikola 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: I'm also sure Pant wont choke in a WC final like Sachin. SRT in WC final appearance - 2. Chokes - 2. let him play those 2 WC finals first. the 2019 one is ruled out already. raki05, mancalledsting, Real McCoy and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment
Clarke Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Vihari 1 : Kumble+Zaheer+Srinath 0 for series winning bowling spells in Aus mancalledsting 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Clarke said: Vihari 1 : Kumble+Zaheer+Srinath 0 for series winning bowling spells in Aus Rohit Sharma: 1, and SRT+Dravid+Gavaskar: 0 for series winning 50s in Australia Rasgulla, Laaloo, Clarke and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 hours ago, velu said: oh i thought it was sachin who got MoM Should have been given MOM for BD match Real McCoy, Switchblade, velu and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) Presenter says - He didnt hit the winning run, didnt take a wicket, didnt take a game changing catch but was little more than a spectator in the WC final in Mumbai. What an insult Thats a diplomatic way of saying he was useless in the final. I would go on to say he choked to a wide delivery of the best bowler in the opposition. Im sure the presenter was removed by Sachin phans constantly getting triggered Edited January 5, 2019 by Real McCoy Rasgulla and Laaloo 1 1 Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Presenter says - He didnt hit the winning run, didnt take a wicket, didnt take a game changing catch but was little more than a spectator in the WC final in Mumbai. What an insult Thats a diplomatic way of saying he was useless in the final. I would go on to say he choked to a wide delivery of the best bowler in the opposition. Im sure the presenter was removed by Sachin phans constantly getting triggered yes he should have learned proper forward defence/how to play the moving ball from the technically adept MSD. raki05 1 Link to comment
mancalledsting Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 1/4/2019 at 4:30 PM, Real McCoy said: I'm also sure Pant wont choke in a WC final like Sachin. SRT in WC final appearance - 2. Chokes - 2. that's the nature of batting on the front line at the top of the order against the hard moving ball vs ATGs like McGrath and Malinga. Hard to understand for people who's hero hides behind top order in an attempt to: i) inflate his own career stats and brand value with piddly not outs ii) knock off winning runs after real batsmen done the hard work iii) when team lose- he can blame it on the top order. Just like he did in 2015 WC semi final loss vs Australia. He blamed loss on top order failure....sums up Dhoni's character perfectly and oh yeah Sachin giving his wicket away cheaply in 2003 final had nothing to do with his bowlers conceding 350 plus runs. Stan AF and raki05 2 Link to comment
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