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11 minutes ago, maniac said:

Why are people blaming Rohit? Clearly the plan was to let Rohit be there till the end and we know usually what happens if he stays there long enough and the rest to attack around him.

 

He doesn’t need to play a selfish innings because his place is under no threat and there is nothing left for him to prove in the format as one of the GOAT in this format.

 

He didn’t look scratchy either,so was clearly a plan and makes sense as we are a Top 1,2,3 team and with Dhawan out he had to take up responsibility.

 

Clearly Dadu and Dhawan flopped badly but Dill waaley and Dadu fans using Rohit as a scapegoat lol 

 

What a shameless fanboy :giggle:

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19 minutes ago, maniac said:

Just last game we said Krunal can’t play pace. Sure he got away a few hits right in his arc but DK has more of a shot there than Krunal. Wasn’t a brain fart. One of those risky moves that look like a million bucks when they come off and like a dud when they fail.

I know. Krunal hacked a few sixes on these tiny grounds. But it doesn't change the fact he is a super duper hack.

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2 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

What a shameless fanboy :giggle:

Yeah he should have got out for a 2(4) like dadu. The only reason every other guy was going at rate of knots because Rohit was at the other end. That was a very uncharacteristic approach by the team (in a good way) like attacking despite fall of wickets. Atleast I am not a fan boy of an over the hill selfish grandpa

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Just now, maniac said:

Yeah he should have got out for a 2(4) like dadu. The only reason every other guy was going at rate of knots because Rohit was at the other end. That was a very uncharacteristic approach by the team (in a good way) like attacking despite fall of wickets. Atleast I am not a fan boy of an over the hill selfish grandpa

Honestly, i don't seriously worry about his slow going. He can catch up on his day. It was one of those days he was looking scratch. Needs such days in meaningless T20 Internationals. If you ask me he should have taken a break as well 

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6 minutes ago, maniac said:

Yeah he should have got out for a 2(4) like dadu. The only reason every other guy was going at rate of knots because Rohit was at the other end. That was a very uncharacteristic approach by the team (in a good way) like attacking despite fall of wickets. Atleast I am not a fan boy of an over the hill selfish grandpa

Ind could have won if Rohit had got out early like Dhawan too 

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1 minute ago, maniac said:

Yeah he should have got out for a 2(4) like dadu. The only reason every other guy was going at rate of knots because Rohit was at the other end. That was a very uncharacteristic approach by the team (in a good way) like attacking despite fall of wickets. Atleast I am not a fan boy of an over the hill selfish grandpa

Just defend for the heck of it . Plan ? Lol only pant played the way he normally plays and the rest has to swing their bat in the end to make for the slow start . 

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Just now, maniac said:

Yeah he should have got out for a 2(4) like dadu. The only reason every other guy was going at rate of knots because Rohit was at the other end. That was a very uncharacteristic approach by the team (in a good way) like attacking despite fall of wickets. Atleast I am not a fan boy of an over the hill selfish grandpa

Aww I know it hurts you if someone has a word of praise for Dhoni and he can be termed as fanboy lol

But yeah let's blame someone who wasted 4 balls as oppose to someone who wasted 5 overs in name of anchoring. Incidentally Rohit played a typical Dhoni innings and if Dhoni had played this you would have gone bonkers.

Anyways keep it up with your fanboyism

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1 minute ago, zen said:

Ind could have won if Rohit has got out early like Dhawan too 

He can catch up easily after a slow start. Losing both Rohit and Dhawan would have been panic mode. The Indian middle order be it Shankar,Pant,Pandya bros,DK are all cameo

players good for 20-30s and Dhoni less said the better. Rohit is the only guy who can bat long and we needed someone to play a big knock to win chasing a challenging total. Pretty clear to me :dontknow:

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3 minutes ago, zen said:

Ind could have won if Rohit has got out early like Dhawan too 

Not necessarily here cos our middle order is still poor , but I bet the difference in India win percentage when he gets out early or gets a big one is marginal , while there are number of matches he screws up when he does neither 

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5 minutes ago, maniac said:

He can catch up easily after a slow start. Losing both Rohit and Dhawan would have been panic mode. The Indian middle order be it Shankar,Pant,Pandya bros,DK are all cameo

players good for 20-30s and Dhoni less said the better. Rohit is the only guy who can bat long and we needed someone to play a big knock to win chasing a challenging total. Pretty clear to me :dontknow:

With batting till #8, there is no reason for anyone to play an inning where they have to catch up .... there is no reason to waste 30 balls (25% of availabke balls) ....  Chasing 11 RPO,  you are required to be well above the RRR in PPs .... Ind should have ideally scored 75 

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1 minute ago, jusarrived said:

Not necessarily here cos our middle order is still poor , but I bet the difference in India win percentage when he gets out early or gets a big one is marginal , while there are number of matches he screws up when he does neither 

He has the joint fastest T20I 100 and has 4 100s and most 6s in T20Is for India and India is the no.2 team despite playing its 2nd string sides most times with Rohit as the captain. Something to ponder about.

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Just now, zen said:

For perspective, in ODIs, it would be like Rohit scoring 90 of 75 (approx 7 RPO)when Ind is chasing 530 .... which means others are left to score 440 of 38 overs (approx RRR 12)  :no:

 

 

That’s a stat based on a false premise. Yes Rohit got out and his sr looks mediocre but we all know what Rohit can do if he survives long enough, he can more than make up for it. The plan was not to bat at that sr throughout. One of the rare occasions it didn’t come off.

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3 minutes ago, maniac said:

He has the joint fastest T20I 100 and has 4 100s and most 6s in T20Is for India and India is the no.2 team despite playing its 2nd string sides most times with Rohit as the captain. Something to ponder about.

Babar azam will most likely beat him statistically and I think he’s crap . It’s not the stats , which most top order players have inflated I care about .

As for the team , yeah you have a point but that’s the same excuse we can use for any player who screws up . Do you accept that Dhoni plays slowly  cos of the weak middle order then ?

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1 minute ago, jusarrived said:

Babar azam will most likely beat him statistically and I think he’s crap . It’s not the stats , which most top order players have inflated I care about .

As for the team , yeah you have a point but that’s the same excuse we can use for any player who screws up . Do you accept that Dhoni plays slowly  cos of the weak middle order then ?

Opener’s approach should be the same as the guy who comes in after over no.35 and at 5 or 6?

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4 minutes ago, maniac said:

That’s a stat based on a false premise. Yes Rohit got out and his sr looks mediocre but we all know what Rohit can do if he survives long enough, he can more than make up for it. The plan was not to bat at that sr throughout. One of the rare occasions it didn’t come off.

When chasing you try to control the RRR and not blow it out of proportion .... can’t waste 5 overs in a T20 game chasing 210+ .... Have to go harder in PPs 

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Just now, maniac said:

Opener’s approach should be the same as the guy who comes in after over no.35 and at 5 or 6?

No openers approach should be using the power plays cos there is no pressure of having lost wickets . They need to be much more aggressive . This is not tests , so opening is not really a specialist batting spot . Especially in T20s there is no need to drop anchor for any batsmen in any situation, unless you are chasing 130 on a difficult pitch . 

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