Shreyas Iyer: "I am just waiting for my chance."

[Ankit_sharma03]

14 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

• You guys keep forgetting unlike the past era, India is the best bowling attack in the world when it comes to pace. They bombarded every Aussie batsman with short stuffs. Iyer sure plays our own bowlers in the nets. They make the assessment there.  I was suspect about his on the up shots more than the bouncers. Even Yuvraj was suspect against bounce when it reaches him at shoulder height. Only when it is hip height he would punish. Same with Dhawan. Many times he got bounced out.  Rohit sharma, Rahane, Kohli, Karthik are top pull shot players.  Pujara is not bad. He can hold his own.  Why are we not playing Rahane as he has this oh so perfect technique against short ball.  or Karthik for that matter or Pujara?  We miss the X factor. That is where Iyer comes in. Someone who can competely change the momentum of the game in a matter of 3 or 4 overs. That skill is 10 times more important than bouncer handling ability. 

Yuvraj never had short ball problems only in last when he made a mess of his technique

 

If rahane plays short ball well - is that criteria enough to get him selected in odi.

 

Dhawan worked on his short ball issue also it wasnt that huge in odi neways unless he played in Sa , aus type places but here its seen with iyer in India only. When these teams came to inda dhawan blasted them. 

 

Its not only short ball there are more issue one i have out above when spinners dart. I have noticed more issues ....no one is saying throw him out. But this issue will put a doubt which is right to . If their are examples like steve waugh so are there xamples like raina who never recovered. It depends on how iyer comes up against it. 

 

Also these have been noticed by indian setup which is why he got behind in the race for test setup and even manish pandey as he has his share of problems. 

 

Edited January 20, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[vvvslaxman]

40 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Yuvraj never had short ball problems only in last when he made a mess of his technique

 

If rahane plays short ball well - is that criteria enough to get him selected in odi.

 

Dhawan worked on his short ball issue also it wasnt that huge in odi neways unless he played in Sa , aus type places but here its seen with iyer in India only. When these teams came to inda dhawan blasted them. 

 

Its not only short ball there are more issue one i have out above when spinners dart. I have noticed more issues ....no one is saying throw him out. But this issue will put a doubt which is right to . If their are examples like steve waugh so are there xamples like raina who never recovered. It depends on how iyer comes up against it. 

 

Also these have been noticed by indian setup which is why he got behind in the race for test setup and even manish pandey as he has his share of problems. 

 

I don't think he is ignored in Tests. Just that guys like Vihari is ahead of him in the queue. Even Agarwal had to wait so long to get his chance.  Rohit should have never been given this many chances in Tests. KL Rahul also is likely to come back because of his LOI performance rather than first class performance. Just because Indian set up didn't pick someone doesn't mean they are bad.  They may be bad or good. We will never know. As of now for limited overs he is the best option available to play at 4. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

I don't think he is ignored in Tests. Just that guys like Vihari is ahead of him in the queue. Even Agarwal had to wait so long to get his chance.  Rohit should have never been given this many chances in Tests. KL Rahul also is likely to come back because of his LOI performance rather than first class performance. Just because Indian set up didn't pick someone doesn't mean they are bad.  They may be bad or good. We will never know. As of now for limited overs he is the best option available to play at 4. 

Let not decide that so soon- he has to go through many test now 

[Lannister]

On 1/21/2020 at 2:09 AM, vvvslaxman said:

Why do you think India struggles in SENA? They reached 2013 CT final and won.  2017 CT. Three of the semi finalists were Asian teams.  2019 India reached semis. Why do you think Asian teams struggle in SENA conditions especially in limited overs? They are all flat tracks.

England and WI were the two finalists in the last T20 WC which was held in India. Things are changing now and they are getting more competitive because of IPL exposure. 

 

Australian coach, Langer, said India was always the final frontier for them.  

[putrevus]

On 1/20/2020 at 4:47 PM, vvvslaxman said:

I don't think he is ignored in Tests. Just that guys like Vihari is ahead of him in the queue. Even Agarwal had to wait so long to get his chance.  Rohit should have never been given this many chances in Tests. KL Rahul also is likely to come back because of his LOI performance rather than first class performance. Just because Indian set up didn't pick someone doesn't mean they are bad.  They may be bad or good. We will never know. As of now for limited overs he is the best option available to play at 4. 

KL never deserved the spot in world cup squad over Mayank but good IPL pushed him over Mayank.He will get test recall too based on his Odi and T20 performances. Rohit Sharma after his great world cup was getting a chance in test team as an opener.Like it or not that is how system works.

Why was Shaw recalled to odi over Mayank?

[vvvslaxman]

On an aside is there a potential for Shreyas Iyer to be an useful part timer? He has bowled around 100 overs in first class with 4 wickets. Jadhav with 30 to 40 overs first class experience got his chance to be a part timer. 

[Global.Baba]

4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

On an aside is there a potential for Shreyas Iyer to be an useful part timer? He has bowled around 100 overs in first class with 4 wickets. Jadhav with 30 to 40 overs first class experience got his chance to be a part timer. 

Jadhav was also used as a keeper for RCB IIRC. Only player whom the team has always found a way to show how useful he is

 

Also remember Pandey used to bowl dibbly dobbly medium pace if I am not mistaken

[vvvslaxman]

Excellent nerveless finishing. It was almost like Yuvraj singh.

[nevada]

Superb innings today taking charge of the chase after Kohli got out. Played with confidence and batted New Zealand out of the game. 

[Straight Drive]

It was only a week back that he played an unbeaten finishing innings of 44 runs at strike rate of 125 odd in ODI against Australia.

 

Today his unbeaten finishing knock came in T20i against NZ - 58 runs at strike rate 200.

 

He has finished two matches by helping India to win. Well played kiddo.

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Wonder if the result in the semi-final would've been different had this guy been in the World Cup XI. Good innings when there was pressure of run rate.

[rkt.india]

On 1/22/2020 at 6:32 PM, putrevus said:

KL never deserved the spot in world cup squad over Mayank but good IPL pushed him over Mayank.He will get test recall too based on his Odi and T20 performances. Rohit Sharma after his great world cup was getting a chance in test team as an opener.Like it or not that is how system works.

Why was Shaw recalled to odi over Mayank?

And how Mayank deserved it more than KL without playing an ODI? 

Edited January 24, 2020 by rkt.india

[vvvslaxman]

43 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

Wonder if the result in the semi-final would've been different had this guy been in the World Cup XI. Good innings when there was pressure of run rate.

Shastri bot thought it was a great idea to have 3 wicket keepers instead.

[nevada]

49 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

Wonder if the result in the semi-final would've been different had this guy been in the World Cup XI. Good innings when there was pressure of run rate.

Maybe. But its all history now. Let's hope he develops into a consistent batsman for the T20 world cup. 

Edited January 24, 2020 by nevada

[nevada]

1 hour ago, Straight Drive said:

It was only a week back that he played an unbeaten finishing innings of 44 runs at strike rate of 125 odd in ODI against Australia.

 

Today his unbeaten finishing knock came in T20i against NZ - 58 runs at strike rate 200.

 

He has finished two matches by helping India to win. Well played kiddo.

The innings against the Aussies was very special given that it was a do or die battle for him. 2 poor innings, the chorus growing louder about his inability to play high class fast bowling, TM's trigger happy selection policy putting him at risk of getting dumped into the back of the queue perhaps forever - he soaked up all the pressure and played an amazing innings. 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

2 minutes ago, nevada said:

Instead of Rayudu and side-spin, they should have invested in Iyer.

Considering his performances in domestic cricket in 2018, it was a no-brainer. He should have been a regular since late 2017 considering all the other options. Kohli should publicly own up to his mistake of backing the wrong player in Rayudu and then not having enough confidence in him to keep him in the World Cup squad.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, nevada said:

The innings against the Aussies was very special given that it was a do or die battle for him. 2 poor innings, the chorus growing louder about his inability to play high class fast bowling, TM's trigger happy selection policy putting him at risk of getting dumped into the back of the queue perhaps forever - he soaked up all the pressure and played an amazing innings. 

DOn't get cozy lol These morons will always find a chance to drop a promising player. He should try to hone his leg spin skill as well as an insurance. Rahul has adopted keeping now.

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

1 minute ago, nevada said:

TM's trigger happy selection policy putting him at risk of getting dumped into the back of the queue perhaps forever - he soaked up all the pressure and played an amazing innings. 

He could have been like Rayudu and played a slow, unbeaten innings and padded up his stats, but instead he went on the attack and won the match with an over to spare.

[nevada]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

DOn't get cozy lol These morons will always find a chance to drop a promising player. He should try to hone his leg spin skill as well as an insurance. Rahul has adopted keeping now.

Yes, very true. Today Ian Smith said he is probably the next superstar for India. That could be reason enough for him to get dumped like a hot potato by the trigger happy Kohli.

[nevada]

2 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

He could have been like Rayudu and played a slow, unbeaten innings and padded up his stats, but instead he went on the attack and won the match with an over to spare.

These are the type of things TM ought to look at in backing players instead of looking at padded numbers against weak opposition.