Chase Master King Kohli whilst chasing in WCs

[Gollum]

2 minutes ago, mishra said:

I think Kohli has internationally raised this. This thing can not go on. Rules are rules. Its like saying that you don’t need to run 22 yds as we have made pitch of 20 yds for one particular game. Sancity of Minimum 65 mtrs ground must not be raped

ICC standard playing condition states 59m and the shortest boundary y'day was 59m....no rules/guidelines were broken. Kohli acknowledged that. 

[Adi BB]

7 minutes ago, mishra said:

I think Kohli has internationally raised this. This thing can not go on. Rules are rules. Its like saying that you don’t need to run 22 yds as we have made pitch of 20 yds for one particular game. Sancity of Minimum 65 mtrs ground must not be raped

59 mtr boundary, it was played within rules 

[Stuge]

12 minutes ago, mishra said:

I think Kohli has internationally raised this. This thing can not go on. Rules are rules. Its like saying that you don’t need to run 22 yds as we have made pitch of 20 yds for one particular game. Sancity of Minimum 65 mtrs ground must not be raped

 

its 59 meters ? No

 

edit : Kya yaar mishra jee kam see kam google hi karliya karo .

 

Law 19.1 of ICC Test Match Playing Conditions states: "The playing area shall be a minimum of 150 yards (137.16 metres) from boundary to boundary square of the pitch, with the shorter of the two squareboundaries being a minimum 65 yards (59.43 metres

Edited July 1, 2019 by Stuge

[IndianRenegade]

5 minutes ago, Gollum said:

ICC standard playing condition states 59m and the shortest boundary y'day was 59m....no rules/guidelines were broken. Kohli acknowledged that. 

True, but his point is simple it was one extraordinary coincidence that the pitch was at such place that it met the minimum requirement exactly. Of course, it wasn’t a coincidence was it? English gambled knowing India will play two spinners and it worked out spectacularly. 

[Gollum]

Hope resident Kohli fanboys add their pearls of wisdom here. King is waiting for a successor. Even though that day will never come let us see if Kohli can get somewhat close. 

[mishra]

1 minute ago, Stuge said:

its 59 meters ? No

Bhavanaoon mein bah gayaa tha! after reading the article about what Kohli has to say

[Gollum]

1 minute ago, IndianRenegade said:

True, but his point is simple it was one extraordinary coincidence that the pitch was at such place that it met the minimum requirement exactly. Of course, it wasn’t a coincidence was it? English gambled knowing India will play two spinners and it worked out spectacularly. 

Yeah agree. But I think this much of home advantage is kosher, we badly blundered in our team selection 

[IndianRenegade]

Just now, Gollum said:

Yeah agree. But I think this much of home advantage is kosher, we badly blundered in our team selection 

Yes, we tend not to change the winning combination. The English used it to their advantage, the way their batsmen played the reverse, it was a definite game plan to take advantage of the small boundaries, not something they cooked up on field.

 

India should take note and come up with a way to counter this the next time they meet.

[vvvslaxman]

28 minutes ago, Ajju said:

But if we consider any standars etc kohli is best chaser in odi but i think not in knockouts or imp games

he was beast till 2015 wc

But we cannot consider SMith is some kind of a wizard in world cups. Situation perfectly suited him. Batting first on a road. Chasing a smallish total in the final on a road.  Smith's overall ODI stats testify that. Mere 41.  If Kohli stays at the wicket INdia will win. That is what matters. It is a matter of converting now. Although this match was not really a significant match he was up for it until he played a loose shot.

[mishra]

7 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Yeah agree. But I think this much of home advantage is kosher, we badly blundered in our team selection 

With left right combo in batting side of opponents, jaddu is must and so is Shankar. Jaadhav shount been there nor pant

[nevada]

53 minutes ago, mishra said:

Nope, outrage should have been against the ground and playing conditions. As usual ECB cheated with 53 mtr boundry. Hope, its not repeated 

That short boundary was ridiculous but wasn't it short for us also? Why couldn't our batters plan to target it just like the English did? 

[Amit228]

Truth being told dhawan was the vital cog in Indian batting schemes of things. With dhawan gone rohit nd kohli have been under serious pressure. With a ludicrous middle nd lower order sans pandya they know one of them has to bat through out now this has impacted their free flowing game.. as it was evident from previous games where kohli who builds on singles nd doubles was bogged down from other ends where dot balls kept on piling. Kohli needs a busy player with him on the other end. Same goes for rohit who needs dhawan to give him a breather at the start. Dhawan used to bat at brisk pace which kept pressure out of Kohli's nd rohit's shoulders. Now with dhawan gone nd a mental midget like rahul on other end who has forgotten how to hold bat, the much touted indian top order has been under some serious pressure in recent times. 

[IndianRenegade]

27 minutes ago, nevada said:

That short boundary was ridiculous but wasn't it short for us also? Why couldn't our batters plan to target it just like the English did? 

1. The English used the long boundary well, bowled, & set fields for it. Indian batsmen much to my chagrin didn’t improvise.

 

2. It was much easier to deposit the spinners over the short boundary than the pacers which English used.

 

also the English were better prepared to take advantage of the small boundary, because I am sure they had a hand in determining it.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Ground dimensions are same for both teams. besides hosts deserve some advantage especially when their prospects are on the line. India got a turning pitch against Aussies in Motera 2011, Aussies got a pancake in the 2015 SF. Their fresh pitch was closer to one side of the boundary and they used it for the match, blame lies with us for failing to adapt. Team selection itself was wrong, 2 spinners on a fresh wicket with those ground dimensions , England got everything right starting from team selection, they even left out the India basher Moeen which IMO was a brave call. 

That wasn't a turning pitch in 2011. Aus scored 260.

[-Robin-]

Short boundary excuse will make even pakistanis excuse look good lol

[rkt.india]

7 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said:

1. The English used the long boundary well, bowled, & set fields for it. Indian batsmen much to my chagrin didn’t improvise.

 

2. It was much easier to deposit the spinners over the short boundary than the pacers which English used.

 

also the English were better prepared to take advantage of the small boundary, because I am sure they had a hand in determining it.

Also the pitch had slowed down a lot. It was very difficult to maneuver slower balls.

[Pratik77]

How many batsmen have scored century while chasing nd also his team winning(chasing of target above 300)...very handful nd against not so great attack...

O'Brian against eng in 11

Kevin P. Against Wi in 07

Thirimane nd Sangakara vs eng in 15

Shakib against Wi this WC...

Chasing 300 be it against even Minnow team isn't easy...all batsmen needs to chip in...nd look at our batting apart from vk nd rohit...msd nd jadhav were useless literally...

 

[Gollum]

11 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

That wasn't a turning pitch in 2011. Aus scored 260.

Not a rank tuner but had enough to keep our spinners interested, also slow, double paced which Aussies hate. They batted really well that day, especially Ponting. 

[Amit228]

A poor workman always blames his tools. Kohli knows that jhadhav nd dhoni couldn't have evn cleared 30 yards cricle with all the lunges on hoicks which was cringe inducing to say the least. When u don't have capability nd skills u harp about how pitch suddenly changed behaviour nd how boundaries were short.. embrace the reality, jhadhav nd dhoni are pedestrian batsmen.. they bat at run a ball when situation demands 10 run per over nd they bat 3 runs per over when situation demands run a ball.. 

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, Gollum said:

Overall:

 

WCs:

 

High time he redeems himself, time running out. After that 'mother of all pathetic knocks' in 2015 SF anything less than a matchwinning 100 in SF/F will dent the reputation and historical standing of this 'better than Viv' batsman. Don't care about Cycle Agarbathi and Murugappa Group bilaterals, this is the real deal. Easy batting conditions yesterday, well set batting at 60 odd, Rohit at the other end, no pressure cos of points table, mediocre trundling by Poms, enough batting to follow and what does brat do? Even more unpardonable than his brainfade against RSA in our opening match. Hope for India's sake he justifies his ODI reputation, enough of stats boosting against 3rd string attacks in useless JAMODIs. WCs are where legacies are defined. He might never be an overall master of WCs like Sachin, Ponting, ABDV or Viv but 1/2 amazing knocks will salvage his credentials.  

nothing very surprising so far. we all know Bratman is a bit of a mental midget in ODI WCs (and CTs), albeit not in T20s. If we play Oz in SF, it's likely that either Smith or Warner will school him in the art of scoring in high-pressure matches.