India vs SA, 3rd T20I, Bangalore

[Prabhdeep Singh]

Keeping in mind that world T20 is in Australia, big grounds etc

 

Need spinners who flight the ball.

 

S Gopal, K Yadav

[Frustrated]

Really feel for the spectators out here, who paid heavy price for the tickets, only to witness their home team getting thrashed completely, on a sunday night.

 

 

[maniac]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

no it was intelligent bowling.....it isnt juyst about spinning but varying length n pace which is why he did well in those series n in IPL. 

he is not playing at expense of kulcha...he is batting in top 7 ....which means he plays as all rounder.

Jadeja sundar are playing in kulcha place

He lucked out a few wickets. No different from Kedar Jadhav finding early success with the ball. May be Krunal is a shade better as a bowler.

 

you can’t have all 3 of Sundar,Jadeja or Krunal.

 

 

it has to be between Krunal and Jadeja

 

Sundar is apparently a top order bat so try him in top 5. Not good enough to play as a bowler alone

[bahubali]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I saw all those matches, he reaped benefits of other bowler keeping pressure at the end.He should never be a part this team at the expense of Kulcha,

But captain saheb said when other team playing batsmen till down the 9 th down we should also do that. Isn't he who was in selection meeting and selected this team.

[SecondSlip]

Wicket Takers > Batting Depth 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, maniac said:

He lucked out a few wickets. No different from Kedar Jadhav finding early success with the ball. May be Krunal is a shade better as a bowler.

no one lucks out on so many wkts

Krunal has done very in IPL....is that also luck

Someone like Imad who is very similar to him does well

 

These guys use variation in pace n length very well . 

Just now, maniac said:

you can’t have all 3 of Sundar,Jadeja or Krunal.

 

why is even jadeja their.....he has been bang below avg for a decade in t20 

Just now, maniac said:

 

 

it has to be between Krunal and Jadeja

at this point krunal owns a place, 3 out or 3 MOM overseas for a spinner is not easy 

 

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

who says playing XI but definitely in 15 

As if Siraj was picked up na when he claimed 40 wkts in 5 games against WI, SA, AUS-A sides 

 

Why wud he not want to play white ball, without playing wud he improve.....? Didnt he bowl well on his t20 debut.....in t20 its diff for fast bowlers to be consistent unless ur bumrah, archer

the only bowlers who can hit 150k at age of 27 waiting for his chance is never right, someone like umesh who its been established struggle outside india playing is never the right thing

Saini was part of test in WI ,what are you complaing about.Hitting 150 once does not make him 150 k bowler.Stop hyping bowlers,he is 135k bowler at best in test cricket, I don't see any great stock delivery either.Same with Siraj.I don't see anything special.But he should be in the mix too.

 

He is in mix for every format and he has gotten chance in t20s and he should get more chances too.What else anyone can ask from selectors.

 

People who keep complaing about everything need to understand they are very limited places available.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, putrevus said:

Saini was part of test in WI ,what are you complaing about.Hitting 150 once does not make him 150 k bowler.Stop hyping bowlers,he is 135k bowler at best in test cricket, I don't see any great stock delivery either.Same with Siraj.I don't see anything special.But he should be in the mix too.

Once??? he has bowled long spells in domestic at high pace

U havent seen domestic not my problem 

 

U dont see special in anyone coz u want bradman in 10 games , 10 games men kab se log bradman ban ne lag gye

 

Just now, putrevus said:

People who keep complaing about everything need to understand they are very limited places available.

So bang avg players like umesh, shardul  shudnt  be ahead of them ....right ??

[putrevus]

5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

no it was intelligent bowling.....it isnt just about spinning but varying length n pace which is why he did well in those series n in IPL. Just wait he ll win more

he is not playing at expense of kulcha...he is batting in top 7 ....which means he plays as all rounder.

Jadeja sundar are playing in kulcha place

Jadeja saves 15 runs in th efield by himself in odis and he is asset in any format on the field.Krunal is nothing special to be chosen over jadeja in any format.

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

12 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

I didn't say we shouldn't try new players. It's just the hype was too much on him in ICF.

I'm talking about people here who hyped him yet now say he's more suited for Test cricket. 

 

So almost every FAST bowler is more suited for Tests than T20Is, but you don't want to see trundlers playing in T20Is either, and you also don't want main players playing meaningless bilateral T20Is.

[Stan AF]

10 minutes ago, maniac said:

Reading Every delivery on cricinfo for be it Krunal,Jadeja or Sundar reads like 

 

darts the ball

fires it in

tries to drift but hit for a 6

fired down the leg side

 that was a quicker one

quick dart

 

etc etc

Non spinning trio 

[maniac]

We want our team to model on England by The difference between England and India guys like @sandeep fail to see is that England have proper 3d cricketers. Bairstow and Butler can both play as pure bats and let the other keep, Stokes can be in the side purely as a bat, Woakes can be in the side as a pure bowler, guys like Archer and Punkett who can tonk the ball are bowlers first, Ali can play as a pure frontline spinner.

 

On the other we are manufacturing bits and pieces players like Pandya bros (Hardik May be a shade better), Jadeja and Sundar or trying to make allrounders out of Shankar and Jadhav

[Forward Defence]

Jadeja did get a few to grip and turn today. Krunal kept trying to dart it in and was smacked around. Even the right hander Bavuma had no trouble facing him. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Jadeja saves 15 runs in th efield by himself in odis and he is asset in any format on the field.Krunal is nothing special to be chosen over jadeja in any format.

15 .....hahaha....har game to jonty bhi 15 nhin bachata tha

yet krunal has 3 Mom in such short career and jadeja has a poor record. So krunal won India that one game overseas which was crucial in winning series and the amount of games jadeja has lost with bat n ball in t20 is a lot

 

lets play manish pandey also ahead of any batsman since he is such a good fielder. Both togther will save 25-30 runs going by ur estimate and we shud win 90% t20 games with that margin

 

[Suhaan]

9 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Saini was part of test in WI ,what are you complaing about.Hitting 150 once does not make him 150 k bowler.Stop hyping bowlers,he is 135k bowler at best in test cricket, I don't see any great stock delivery either.Same with Siraj.I don't see anything special.But he should be in the mix too.

 

He is in mix for every format and he has gotten chance in t20s and he should get more chances too.What else anyone can ask from selectors.

 

People who keep complaing about everything need to understand they are very limited places available.

Even Steyn was a 135 k bowler in tests

Who bowls 150 k deliveries all day long in tests?

Did you ever watch him bowl in Ranji in last two years and last year Vijay Hazare trophy?

He was pick of the bowlers,just dont rush yourself to make an opinion based on such small sample size

Edited September 22, 2019 by Suhaan

[Prabhdeep Singh]

Need to develop T20 team that has specialists not bits and pieces.

 

Batsman picked should be good at playing both spin and pace.

 

There should be room for only 1 of Hardik, Krunal, Jadeja in the same line up.

 

Ideal batting line up in T20 keeping in mind that world T20 in Australia.

 

R Sharma

KL Rahul/ P Shaw

S Gill

V Kohli

S Iyer

R Pant/S Samson/I Kishan

H Pandya/S Dube

S Gopal

K Yadav

M Shami

J Bumrah

 

Need to break the cycle of get the top 3 out, restrict India.

 

In T20's only V Kohli can bat at 4 to benefit the team more

 

Edited September 22, 2019 by Prabhdeep Singh

[putrevus]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Once??? he has bowled long spells in domestic at high pace

U havent seen domestic not my problem 

 

U dont see special in anyone coz u want bradman in 10 games , 10 games men kab se log bradman ban ne lag gye

 

So bang avg players like umesh, shardul  shudnt  be ahead of them ....right ??

Umesh has a far better stock delivery than Saini.Umesh is deadly in Indian conditions .He is fittest bowler and can run in hard in any session.

 

A guy who has three 5fers in 43 FC games is not special by any means stop with your hype , I have seen enough of Saini .

 

Just because Shardul was played by mistake you don't  give out test debut to another player commiting same mistake.Even Shardul has better bowling figures in FC than Saini.

[Forward Defence]

I just hope the team management is not hasty in judging Saini. The guy probably lacks the T20 skillset at the moment but is a good bowler nevertheless.

[sandeep]

5 minutes ago, maniac said:

We want our team to model on England by The difference between England and India guys like @sandeep fail to see is that England have proper 3d cricketers. Bairstow and Butler can both play as pure bats and let the other keep, Stokes can be in the side purely as a bat, Woakes can be in the side as a pure bowler, guys like Archer and Punkett who can tonk the ball are bowlers first, Ali can play as a pure frontline spinner.

 

On the other we are manufacturing bits and pieces players like Pandya bros (Hardik May be a shade better), Jadeja and Sundar or trying to make allrounders out of Shankar and Jadhav

If Pant, Krunal etc cannot step up and deliver, then replacements like Ishan, Nitish Rana would need to be auditioned.   Not trying to improve is not an option.

 

Tired of you repeating the same 4 lines over and over, without understanding the opposing perspective,  or even trying to.

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

15 .....hahaha....har game to jonty bhi 15 nhin bachata tha

yet krunal has 3 Mom in such short career and jadeja has a poor record. So krunal won India that one game overseas which was crucial in winning series and the amount of games jadeja has lost with bat n ball in t20 is a lot

 

lets play manish pandey also ahead of any batsman since he is such a good fielder. Both togther will save 25-30 runs going by ur estimate and we shud win 90% t20 games with that margin

 

Jadeja won bowler of tournament and won India CT 2013 so what , stop with you Moms. it means nothing.Jadeja is far better bowler than Krunal and better fielder.