Vijy Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: His drop catch percentage must be 30%+ with a few missed chances in almost every series. If it was someone else, esp a young player, Kohli, Shastri, MSK Prasad all would have criticised the player publicly and dropped him irrespective of his performances. But those rules apply only if you are under 25 (and not in good books of Kohli). Also, the thread has a sense of déjà vu. Could well have been true for 2015-16. We are back to the same old home cycle where we dominate all the teams. These wins hide lots of cracks in the team including the shambolic catching. These cracks open up properly when we play stronger teams away from home and almost invariably we are found wanting. Same story is being repeated with the TM looking at short term results and having zero vision or investing in future to tackle next away cycle challenge. Results in those away tests will not be very different again. Initially, I misread "in good books of kohli" as "in good looks as kohli"
Stan AF Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 13 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Kohli has improved his catching overall. But he has to stand infront of the wickets not behind. I've always felt that he should never be a close in fielder. Be it slips or short cover positions.
Stan AF Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 10 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said: His drop catch percentage must be 30%+ with a few missed chances in almost every series. If it was someone else, esp a young player, Kohli, Shastri, MSK Prasad all would have criticised the player publicly and dropped him irrespective of his performances. But those rules apply only if you are under 25 (and not in good books of Kohli). Also, the thread has a sense of déjà vu. Could well have been true for 2015-16. We are back to the same old home cycle where we dominate all the teams. These wins hide lots of cracks in the team including the shambolic catching. These cracks open up properly when we play stronger teams away from home and almost invariably we are found wanting. Same story is being repeated with the TM looking at short term results and having zero vision or investing in future to tackle next away cycle challenge. Results in those away tests will not be very different again. I can still never forget his dropped catch of McCullum in 2014. Jimmy Cliff 1
kosingh Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 He really does catch like a Pakistani in the slips.
vvvslaxman Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Stan AF said: I've always felt that he should never be a close in fielder. Be it slips or short cover positions. He is not a natural reflex catcher. I think Mayank looks promising.
cowboysfan Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 that low catch he dropped was so pathetic,he hands were not even in the same zipcode as the ball,i cant figure out a guy with such great hand eye coordination will be so bad at slip catching. Stan AF 1
Vk1 Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 heart always skips a beat whenever a catch goes towards VK in the slips..
Vijy Posted October 14, 2019 Posted October 14, 2019 4 hours ago, cowboysfan said: that low catch he dropped was so pathetic,he hands were not even in the same zipcode as the ball,i cant figure out a guy with such great hand eye coordination will be so bad at slip catching. they were, however, in the same zip code as anushka.
Muloghonto Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 8:23 AM, cowboysfan said: that low catch he dropped was so pathetic,he hands were not even in the same zipcode as the ball,i cant figure out a guy with such great hand eye coordination will be so bad at slip catching. It is because of his hand eye coordination that he occasionally pulls off blinders in the slips. He however, drops dollies because as others have pointed out, he is too animated and has bad technique for slip fielders. Slip fielding require a lot of concentration and only way you can have concentration for an entire day is to switch off between each ball. Look closely at great slippers like Dravid, Laxman, MEW or Warney. As soon as the ball is hit or past the bat, they relax, pick their noses, switch off and zone out till the bowler is at top of his mark. Then they crouch and switch into the zone again. Sobers once talked about how this simple technique is the key to long term focus/stamina as a batter or slipper. Kohli doesn’t have this, he has poor technique and never switches off, leading to easy drops frequently. He should ideally be fielding in the covers. That’s the best position for him to display his athleticism and put it to good use, while continuously chattering with the bowlers.
maniac Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Slip catching quality as a whole has gone down. I know it's only highlights on youtube but you look at videos of great spells from the previous generation of fast bowlers especially in SENA, most dismissals are slip and gully and the catching is incredible. Most of those catches would be spilled these days. I don't recollect so many slip catching being put down even in 90's and 2000's except maybe by Pakistan. Even in the recent Eng,SA and Aus series Kohli and co. got so many lives and vice versa King Kohli returned the favor. I don't remember at least slip fielders from these countries dropping so many catches. PS:Rohit during his ultimatum phase used to be out due to so many brilliant and freakish dismissals glad though he has earned some rope before the next ultimatum starts Jimmy Cliff 1
Muloghonto Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 This is the worst catching team India has ever fielded. In the 90s, Indian team couldn’t dive ( except Azhar) and routinely let 1s become 2s, 2s become 3s etc but were far safer catchers
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