LordPrabhzy Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51491662 Rishi Sunak who went to bed last night as Chief Secretary to the Treasury and ended the day today becoming the 2nd most powerful politician in the UK government after the Prime Minister. Along with with Preeti Patel he is the second British Indian to hold a powerful Cabinet Portfolio. His father in law is Narayan Murthy but he's a mulitmillionare in his own right. Degrees from Oxford and an MBA from Standford, and ex Hedge Fund guy from Goldman Sachs.. he deffo knows a thing or two about money. Edited February 13, 2020 by LordPrabhzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachinism Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 15 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51491662 Rishi Sunak who went to bed last night as Chief Secretary to the Treasury and ended the day today becoming the 2nd most powerful politician in the UK government after the Prime Minister. Along with with Preeti Patel he is the second British Indian to hold a powerful Cabinet Portfolio. His father in law is Narayan Murthy but he's a mulitmillionare in his own right. Degrees from Oxford and an MBA from Standford, and ex Hedge Fund guy from Goldman Sachs.. he deffo knows a thing or two about money. Yup keeping the money in the hands of the few Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Just now, Sachinism said: Yup keeping the money in the hands of the few Yes UK is a third world country and people are living in slums because the money is the in the hands of the few right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 39 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: Yes UK is a third world country and people are living in slums because the money is the in the hands of the few right? Communism- Everyone can be miserable equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, Sachinism said: Yup keeping the money in the hands of the few What alternative do you propose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranvir Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Stradlater said: What alternative do you propose? A capitalist dictatorship that works together to lift everyone out of poverty. Look at China. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ranvir said: A capitalist dictatorship that works together to lift everyone out of poverty. Look at China. Paaji we have this popular saying in Rajasthan that "pahar (mountains) door se dekhne me hi ache lagte hai". Trust me you are better off without Chinese model of growth. Edited February 14, 2020 by Stradlater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickydev Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ranvir said: A capitalist dictatorship that works together to lift everyone out of poverty. Look at China. Capitalism is the first step towards true socialism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Vickydev said: Capitalism is the first step towards true socialism That BS was proven wrong decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 I think the point of this thread was to highlight that now the two most powerful top cabinet posts in the UK Government ( Finance and Home) are held by British Indians. Both are staunch conservatives and Brexiteers. Im loving it- slap in the face to the Anti Semetic, muslim/Pakistan appeasing Labour party. FischerTal, Vilander, G_B_ and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickydev Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, Stradlater said: That BS was proven wrong decades ago. Well yes for now, capitalism is truly the way foward. But I don't know things could change, especially with the AI led Industrial Revolution coming about primarily down to the effects of capitalism, socialism will start coming back to the foreground. This statement could indeed turn out to be true then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Vickydev said: Well yes for now, capitalism is truly the way foward. But I don't know things could change, especially with the AI led Industrial Revolution coming about primarily down to the effects of capitalism, socialism will start coming back to the foreground. This statement could indeed turn out to be true then. Socialism is an idealized notion that would never work irl as shown by the failure of socialistic economies vis a vis capitalist states in the 20th century. Market forces would always triumph such theories. On paper the concept looks really nice but it's not practical at all since it doesn't take into account the human greed and various other emotional factors . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said: I think the point of this thread was to highlight that now the two most powerful top cabinet posts in the UK Government ( Finance and Home) are held by British Indians. Both are staunch conservatives and Brexiteers. Im loving it- slap in the face to the Anti Semetic, muslim/Pakistan appeasing Labour party. Would remain to be seen how their policies impact India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Ranvir said: A capitalist dictatorship that works together to lift everyone out of poverty. Look at China. fuk that,china is a terrible country which treats its own people like dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPrabhzy Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Stradlater said: Would remain to be seen how their policies impact India. India is only one of 100s of countries in the world that UK needs to deal with. Their origin does not influence what policies they have over India, that is still decided by the Government and Prime Minister as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Sachinism said: Yup keeping the money in the hands of the few Labour was considered as pro immigrant and socialist party. Now it is considered as pro Islamisation and Communist party. I understand that a generation of Indians and their kids have suffered from racism and anti Immigrant views. But, new generation of immigrant Indian origins do not feel the same as times have changed. BoJo was called bigot, racist, anti immigrant and what not by pro EU and libtards. Given opportunity he goes on to choose people in his ministry without looking at the colour of their Skin. Thats the point. Sajid Javid was surrounded by list of people who came from his background. British Muslim community is very small. You go to remember, Sonia Khan was escorted out with armed police as aparently she was leaking the info from Cabinet. That may have continued despite her departure. What is important is that Sterling rose immediately after Sunaks appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickydev Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, Stradlater said: Socialism is an idealized notion that would never work irl as shown by the failure of socialistic economies vis a vis capitalist states in the 20th century. Market forces would always triumph such theories. On paper the concept looks really nice but it's not practical at all since it doesn't take into account the human greed and various other emotional factors . Well none of the market economies are truly market economies are they, so it's not like it was completely rooted out. Many of the western market economies had to adopt the principles of welfare state. In fact the most well off countries in the world right now, truly employ many socialistic principles. Socialism depends on the extent of development of a state's productive forces. Why I spoke about the next IR is that it could truly take the production levels off the charts, reducing the dependance on human labour slogging to achieve disproportionate wealth for a few... Elements of socialism will have to brought into the system further. It'll never be one or the other but a combination of both in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vickydev said: Well none of the market economies are truly market economies are they, so it's not like it was completely rooted out. Many of the western market economies had to adopt the principles of welfare state. In fact the most well off countries in the world right now, truly employ many socialistic principles. Socialism depends on the extent of development of a state's productive forces. Why I spoke about the next IR is that it could truly take the production levels off the charts, reducing the dependance on human labour slogging to achieve disproportionate wealth for a few... Elements of socialism will have to brought into the system further. It'll never be one or the other but a combination of both in the end. Yeah mixed economies are a way to go. Crony capitalism is nearly as bad. Vickydev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranvir Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, cowboysfan said: fuk that,china is a terrible country which treats its own people like dogs. Do you think India is much better? China has much better law and order and better development. So much poverty has been eradicated in China. Countries like South Korea and China were worse off than India at one point but now look at how far they have gone ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said: I think the point of this thread was to highlight that now the two most powerful top cabinet posts in the UK Government ( Finance and Home) are held by British Indians. Both are staunch conservatives and Brexiteers. Im loving it- slap in the face to the Anti Semetic, muslim/Pakistan appeasing Labour party. its very gratifying for an outsider to see UK labour party trying their best to win back Indian vote lulz, make them cry and squeal. Edited February 14, 2020 by Vilander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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