Why are liberals in India so enamored of Pakistan?

[someone]

14 minutes ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

 

they only think about their religion first, because it brings them benefits and a 'social status' they can use to ask for more benefits.

 

take away the benefits (reservation, personal laws, etc.) reduce the social status. and politely encourage them to re-convert.

 

problem solved.

Indians whether its Muslims or Hindus may question Pakistan, but our books have nothing against their people. But that's not the same case with Pakistan, where their entire education, books is filled with Hinduphobia and hatred for anything "India".  Respect is based mutually.

 

 

 

[rock777]

10 minutes ago, maniac said:

The same BJP brought in a law for the Benefit  of  Muslim women. Let’s talk when Pakistan govt does something for the protection of minority women who are under constant threat in Pakistan

Son i think bjp is bone of contention for you guys its simple if  you admire bjp you should not be ashamed its your right like i openly say i admire pti

[maniac]

1 minute ago, rock777 said:

Son i think bjp is bone of contention for you guys its simple if  you admire bjp you should not be ashamed its your right like i openly say i admire pti

No one gives a fk if you are the designated kaali daal massager on Imran khans STD parts. 

[Manny_Pacquiao]

14 minutes ago, rock777 said:

Well i have told you that i wanted to check my conjecture   by the way  do you know founding purposes of rss

why are you forming conjecture when you have no supporting information in the first place? that's awfully discriminatory.

 

well, after i told you i'm a muslim and a voter of AIMIM, how is your conjecture?

[Manny_Pacquiao]

3 minutes ago, rock777 said:

Son i think bjp is bone of contention for you guys its simple if  you admire bjp you should not be ashamed its your right like i openly say i admire pti

Wrong.

 

secularism is the bone of contention.

 

:)

[Manny_Pacquiao]

15 minutes ago, someone said:

Indians whether its Muslims or Hindus may question Pakistan, but our books have nothing against their people. But that's not the same case with Pakistan, where their entire education, books is filled with Hinduphobia and hatred for anything "India".  Respect is based mutually.

 

 

 

the issue is not about pakistan.

 

pakistan is a fake country created by some british guy drawing a line on a map. "pakistan" could easily be another state within the republic of india.

 

the idea supporting pakistan's existence is the issue. and that idea is: muslims cannot co-exist peacefully alongside hindus in a hindu nation.

 

this idea is a falsehood, and its reinforced through preferential treatment of muslims and extremist interpretations of islam.

 

[rock777]

5 minutes ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

why are you forming conjecture when you have no supporting information in the first place? that's awfully discriminatory.

 

well, after i told you i'm a muslim and a voter of AIMIM, how is your conjecture?

Your post shows your extremist mind set  now will you try to reatrict my thought process

[rock777]

5 minutes ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

why are you forming conjecture when you have no supporting information in the first place? that's awfully discriminatory.

 

well, after i told you i'm a muslim and a voter of AIMIM, how is your conjecture?

Your post shows your extremist mind set  now will you try to reatrict my thought process

[Manny_Pacquiao]

2 minutes ago, rock777 said:

Your post shows your extremist mind set  now will you try to reatrict my thought process

so the idea of muslims and hindus co-existing peacefully in a hindu nation is extremist?

[sandeep]

10 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

What you really are, are sellers of your women to Persians and Turks for centuries and land of the fake Khans

Sellers? They got paid by being allowed to survive.  The sheer number of Pakjabi slaves that were sold off in the markets of Central Asia is mind boggling.  Cheaper than horses and donkeys, by some accounts.  There's a reason why Afghans and other central asians look down on Pakjabis. 

[sandeep]

16 minutes ago, rock777 said:

Son i think bjp is bone of contention for you guys its simple if  you admire bjp you should not be ashamed its your right like i openly say i admire pti

These brainwashed pakjabis have no shame in protecting Masood Azhar, Hafiz Saeed etc.  And want to lecture others on "feeling shame for BJP".  Inbred Retards.  

[coffee_rules]

12 minutes ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

the issue is not about pakistan.

 

pakistan is a fake country created by some british guy drawing a line on a map. "pakistan" could easily be another state within the republic of india.

 

the idea supporting pakistan's existence is the issue. and that idea is: muslims cannot co-exist peacefully alongside hindus in a hindu nation.

 

this idea is a falsehood, and its reinforced through preferential treatment of muslims and extremist interpretations of islam.

 

Don't blame the white guy, Pakistan is a state of mind, not a geographical nation. It is still festering in some of the 15% of the population fed by political establishment and the napak people on the other side. The more we crush that idea, the better chance of peace there is. 

[Stradlater]

6 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Sellers? They got paid by being allowed to survive.  The sheer number of Pakjabi slaves that were sold off in the markets of Central Asia is mind boggling.  Cheaper than horses and donkeys, by some accounts.  There's a reason why Afghans and other central asians look down on Pakjabis. 

The guy in the question is Pashtun. 

Reminds me of a certain king of Kashmir who held the auctions of the Yusufzai women in order to teach the inbreds a lesson. 

Not that I'm proud of such measures. 

[Yoda-esque]

Typical second or 3rd generation immigrants, disconnected with history of their parents' country, leading a privileged life in a foreign country, elite mindset, judging citizens of parents' country going through war and hatred for centuries. Typical. 

True true

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[Manny_Pacquiao]

5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Don't blame the white guy, Pakistan is a state of mind, not a geographical nation. It is still festering in some of the 15% of the population fed by political establishment and the napak people on the other side. The more we crush that idea, the better chance of peace there is. 

I wasn't blaming anyone.

 

its a fact. india was divided by the british. they were governing the territory, they drew the lines.

 

you don't have to 'crush' anything. just remove the pakistan army and re-draw the lines.

Edited March 13, 2020 by Manny_Pacquiao

[rock777]

10 minutes ago, sandeep said:

These brainwashed pakjabis have no shame in protecting Masood Azhar, Hafiz Saeed etc.  And want to lecture others on "feeling shame for BJP".  Inbred Retards.  

son dont cry  dont forget that indian spy

[sandeep]

15 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

The guy in the question is Pashtun. 

Reminds me of a certain king of Kashmir who held the auctions of the Yusufzai women in order to teach the inbreds a lesson. 

Not that I'm proud of such measures. 

He 'claims' he's Pashtun.  In reality he doesn't know which central asian warlord raped his way through the family tree.  

[maniac]

6 minutes ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

I wasn't blaming anyone.

 

its a fact. india was divided by the british. they were governing the territory, they drew the lines.

 

you don't have to 'crush' anything. just remove the pakistan army and re-draw the lines.

That’s over simplifying things. Does Pakistan army have anything to do with Shaheen Baag or to those guys in old city Hyderabad and other parts of Mumbai,Chennai,Kolkata who will throw stones at Ganesh and Durga processions?

 

There are external factors and there are internal factors. Look someone’s place of worship or the god they pray to or their traditions and customs are never a problem, we live in a country where those things vary from house to house. However as long as we have people thinking that they are conquerors of foreign heritage who have nothing to do with the soil, it will continue to be a problem.

 

Parsees came from Iran too, they have their place of worship, their customs but they have adopted a local language and today their version of Zoroastrianism almost looks indic than a foreign culture.

[Manny_Pacquiao]

8 minutes ago, maniac said:

That’s over simplifying things. Does Pakistan army have anything to do with Shaheen Baag or to those guys in old city Hyderabad and other parts of Mumbai,Chennai,Kolkata who will throw stones at Ganesh and Durga processions?

of course it does.

 

pakistan's military establishment, through the ISI and other foreign agencies, have been interfering in india's domestic politics for a long time. i'm surprised you'd even say this, given the amount of proof there is.

 

in fact, interference in india's politics is really, really easy:

 

what could be debated, however, is the indian government's response to this interference. congress regimes could easily be accused of 'allowing it' to continue, by playing both sides and not attacking muslims directly for it. BJP has changed this, but i don't think they're cracking down on foreign funded subversion.

 

the average muslim in india does not hate the average hindu.

Edited March 13, 2020 by Manny_Pacquiao

[maniac]

Just now, Manny_Pacquiao said:

of course it does.

 

pakistan's military establishment, through the ISI and other foreign agencies, have been interfering in india's domestic politics for a long time. i'm surprised you'd even say this, given the amount of proof there is.

 

in fact, interference in india's politics is really, really easy:

 

what could be debated, however, is the indian government's response to this interference. congress regimes could easily be accused of 'allowing it' to continue, by playing both sides and not attacking muslims directly for it. BJP has changed this, but i don't think they're cracking down on foreign funded subversion.

Yes Pak Army is a major player, but you had a guy like Zakir Naik getting funding from Saudi preaching hatred, there are various sources. What funding does Owaisi and many such leaders have? Their  benefit is in fearmongering. While Congress might have questionable funding their vote bank politics are not directed by ISI or Pak army.

 

So even if Pak army was out of the equation a lot of work has to be done to undo a lot of brainwashing that has been done over many many years.

There are plenty of moving parts. Sure getting rid of  Pak army may solve 50 or even 60% of the problem but it will still be an uphill task