Indian batsmen must develop sweep and reverse sweep game

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, maniac said:

Jayant Yadav- a 100 and a couple of 4 wicket haul but suddenly disappeared into obscurity. Not even a central contract?

there were news BCCI, his home state were not happy with his attitude ...there were news of him faking injury 

 

9 hours ago, maniac said:

V.Shankar- came out of nowhere, did alright but where is he today?

was always classified in wrong category - hardik replacement .... both are very different kind of players

shankar right category was no.4 n 5 which got filled by iyer n rahul and gill n pandey is in backup 

 

Only way for shankar to make a comeback in ODI is target no. 6 slot 

• for that he needs to add variation in his bowling, coz pace he cant 
• add a bit of innovative shots or power game for no.6

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, maniac said:

Something is not right.

kohli mindset 

One day he ll feel X player is a champion and after 2 failure he ll think he is not good enough

 

kohli annouced for everyone that this is their permanent no.4- Rayudu, rahane, yuvi, DK , KL but after few failures he lost faith in all. 

Dhoni n ganguly once they use to beileve in a player  backed them to insane length before giving up on them

[Gollum]

In the 2013-17 period I think Vijay was at least as good as Che against spin. Got so many clutch runs on turning pitches esp in 2015-16 against RSA/NZ. Destroyed Aussies in the 2013 home series. Used the sweep shot a lot, the powerful variety fetched from outside off. Apart from disturbing the bowler's mindset/rythym it also forces captain to remove the FSL catcher. Haydos did it to us in the 2001 series with his powerful sweeps. 

[Lone Wolf]

Absolutely  Indian player barely play these innovative strokes  in Int.  Games & that's why leggies often get the better of them. 

Rahul,  Pant are the only ones whom I think have quick reflexes to play these shots.  

Some Posters are saying about Rohit..  Just look at his fitness he can't pull off these strokes..  But he plays scoops in T20Is which is good enough for a player of his ability.  Kohli is one who needs to improve...  He barely plays orthodox sweeps forget about reverse sweeps( in Int games..  I know we may see some in IPL) Even Misbah in Tests used to play reverse vs spin..  Tendulkar too in his twilight years. 

Much it has to do with outdated coaching methods.  English players seem to best at those & even young ones coming are amazing..  Pope,  Banton all seem to be expert.   

 

[Gollum]

Not watching all the IPL games, are Indians esp youngsters playing these shots regularly @Ankit_sharma03 @zen?

Edited October 12, 2020 by Gollum

[zen]

2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Not watching all the IPL games, are Indians esp youngsters playing these shots regularly @Ankit_sharma03 @zen?

 

So far I only recall SKY and Tewatia (esp. in the game v SRH) make good use of it .... From the top of the mind recall - other players who try such shots include Pant and Sarfaraz (K11)

 

Though I am not looking out for these shots so may have missed a few players 

[Ankit_sharma03]

15 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Not watching all the IPL games, are Indians esp youngsters playing these shots regularly @Ankit_sharma03 @zen?

Sky but he has always had a diff shot range

Its was great to see tewatia reverse rashud khan, what confidence can do....he was struggling to hit bishnoi before that game changing innings.

 

Its kind of been a disappointing IPL in terms of indian aggresive batting. Inconsistency all around . 

[Trichromatic]

First experts need to stop calling it reckless shot whenever they see someone trying something different.

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pant plays innovative shots but ppl call him hackish and wait to pounce on just 2 failures ....u cant expect them to play high risk game with solidity 

 

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pant plays innovative shots but ppl call him hackish and wait to pounce on just 2 failures ....u cant expect them to play high risk game with solidity 

 

People want them to put price on their wickets kike a Dhoni and Dravid at the same time maintaining a strike rate of 180-200+

[SK_IH]

Rishabh Pant has been disappointing this season, may be not in form. SKY is one player who has the ability to play unorthodox shots & sweeps. He is a must for middle order in T20s now.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Rishabh Pant has been disappointing this season, may be not in form. SKY is one player who has the ability to play unorthodox shots & sweeps. He is a must for middle order in T20s now.

 

 

He is not playing his natural game , affect of all the critisism. Also this hasnt been an easy IPL for hitters like pant, pandya, russell .....only stonis have looked good at the role whom no one expected. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

People want them to put price on their wickets kike a Dhoni and Dravid at the same time maintaining a strike rate of 180-200+

They ll give xamples of sehwag but had he played today he wud have been trolled the most. In his days sehwag ki maa ka phone joke wud have been nothing to the kind of trolling he or even yuvi wud have gotten today

[SK_IH]

37 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

He is not playing his natural game , affect of all the critisism. Also this hasnt been an easy IPL for hitters like pant, pandya, russell .....only stonis have looked good at the role whom no one expected. 

You are right Pant seems to be playing with different method this year & has not been able to break free when he wanted. Though I don't want to attach any excuses for both Pandya - Pant. Both were expected to be better than they have been & unfortunately both have shown certain limitations which is worrying.

 

[Stan AF]

SKY Yadav played an out of the blue scoop or reverse hit against Archer for a six after getting hit on the helmet.

[Serpico]

Tewatia reverse swept Rashid Khan for two 4s in last match. 

[Straight Drive]

On 10/13/2020 at 10:12 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

He is not playing his natural game , affect of all the critisism. Also this hasnt been an easy IPL for hitters like pant, pandya, russell .....only stonis have looked good at the role whom no one expected. 

Stonis doing well is not a surprise. Those who have not seen him play in Big Bash before may not have expected. But there is no surprise to me that he is having yet another good T20 tournament. There must be many more who must have watched Stoinis before playing wonderful knocks at all levels. Mentioning "Nobody" is incorrect.You may say that those who do not have an idea of his game did not expect. 

Edited October 14, 2020 by Straight Drive

[Ankit_sharma03]

7 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

Stonis doing well is not a surprise. Those who have not seen him play in Big Bash before may not have expected. But there is no surprise to me that he is having yet another good T20 tournament. There must be many more who must have watched Stoinis before playing wonderful knocks at all levels. Mentioning "Nobody" is incorrect.You may say that those who do not have an idea of his game did not expect. 

 

in big bash he opens ...there u have 20 overs

he has done well as finisher a role which he has struggled for even australia 

Edited October 14, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[Straight Drive]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

in big bash he opens ...there u have 20 overs

he has done well as finisher a role which he has struggled for even australia 

He  also batted in middle order in Big Bash couple of years back. Did you see his knock against Kiwis wherein he  counter attacked to score a ton. He has shown his ability at international level as well as domestic comps. So not surprised that he did well in IPL.

Edited October 14, 2020 by Straight Drive

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

He  also batted in middle order in Big Bash couple of years back. Did you see his knock against Kiwis wherein he  counter attacked to score a ton. He has shown his ability at international level as well as domestic comps. So not surprised that he did well in IPL.

yea the 130 + i think but that was just 1 off

no one will take u srsly with one of innings, even corey anderson had that

 

the guy has messed up chasing around 10 in lst over twice that to once against shankar, it has been a struggle for him only in international in lower  middle 

 

hopefully this IPL gives him confidence like it helped watson