YixingLao Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 This problem is the same for the rest of Southeast Asia. So many promotional for tourisms claim our lands is agricultural but they are actually being bought for subdivisions and malls while crops are imported from neighbours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Khota said: Spreading misinformation like your masters. That is only 0.7% of population. 87% have less than 4 hecctare. Quit spreading misinformation. And not even them 0.7% are protesting. BTW what I posted is from scroll which itself is anti BJP to core. Its just that when they published it, they wanted to implement policy of liberalization in farm sector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfriend Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, mishra said: And not even them 0.7% are protesting. BTW what I posted is from scroll which itself is anti BJP to core. Its just that when they published it, they wanted to implement policy of liberalization in farm sector MR rakesh Tikait, great fam leader has declared 4 crore+ assets. Apparently he also own many petrol bunks. So much for poor farm leader. https://myneta.info/ls2014/candidate.php?candidate_id=3035 Edited February 9, 2021 by urbestfriend mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 MR rakesh Tikait, great fam leader has declared 4 crore+ assets. Apparently he also own many petrol bunks. So much for poor farm leader. https://myneta.info/ls2014/candidate.php?candidate_id=3035Lol 4 cr? It's atleast 10 times more mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Khota said: No. I am not welcome on that forum. My solution is very clear. They have the sequence of events wrong. Farming is on the decline everywhere and no laws can save it. They need to industrialize the country so farmers can transition to better jobs. Meanwhile leave them alone and pass a law gauranteeing that farmers are not exploited. What do you think is exploitation? You want a good price even when product does not create proportional value to society and market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, kepler37b said: What do you think is exploitation? You want a good price even when product does not create proportional value to society and market? Exploitation is them not getting MSP. If the proportional value yardstick is to be used then let us dismantle entire PSU, DRDO etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, mishra said: And not even them 0.7% are protesting. BTW what I posted is from scroll which itself is anti BJP to core. Its just that when they published it, they wanted to implement policy of liberalization in farm sector If not enough people are protetsing then they need to be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, urbestfriend said: MR rakesh Tikait, great fam leader has declared 4 crore+ assets. Apparently he also own many petrol bunks. So much for poor farm leader. https://myneta.info/ls2014/candidate.php?candidate_id=3035 Look at his remarks on Hindus and they say it is not communal. All these people make it a religious issue and when we see Khalistani flagsm lo bhai, sab communal hain.. Listen to his distribe and see why he is popular among Sikhs and Jaats. Idiot doesn't know Pandat is controlled by govt and virtues. They don't support gundagardi and farebi Edited February 9, 2021 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 10 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Look at his remarks on Hindus and they say it is not communal. All these people make it a religious issue and when we see Khalistani flagsm lo bhai, sab communal hain.. Listen to his distribe and see why he is popular among Sikhs and Jaats. Idiot doesn't know Pandat is controlled by govt and virtues. They don't support gundagardi and farebi This is way out of the line. Such things should have been avoided, by the leaders who are protesting and all the people who are participating. Well, I guess they have already made choices so its to late for such expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 19 hours ago, Khota said: No. I am not welcome on that forum. My solution is very clear. They have the sequence of events wrong. Farming is on the decline everywhere and no laws can save it. They need to industrialize the country so farmers can transition to better jobs. Meanwhile leave them alone and pass a law gauranteeing that farmers are not exploited. So who grows crops for food? Should people grow their own according to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Khota said: Exploitation is them not getting MSP. If the proportional value yardstick is to be used then let us dismantle entire PSU, DRDO etc. Do you get a guaranteed salary for your job in perpetuity? Is it exploitation if you don't? Do you understand why a guaranteed MSP is a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ash Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 https://twitter.com/ashes_will_fly/status/1358763950838587397?s=08 Clarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 13 hours ago, Khota said: Exploitation is them not getting MSP. If the proportional value yardstick is to be used then let us dismantle entire PSU, DRDO etc. So you agree that MSP is a hyped up value for farm produce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kepler37b Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, bharathh said: Do you get a guaranteed salary for your job in perpetuity? Is it exploitation if you don't? Do you understand why a guaranteed MSP is a bad thing? And wants other employees(Tax Payers) to compensate for his low value work. Clarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfriend Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 History of farm reforms in India. https://www.orfonline.org/research/intellectual-biography-india-new-farm-laws/?amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Does anyone supporting universal MSP think we should continue to be 57% agrarian society forever ? How many middle income economies have done this sort of thing in the past or present, never mind high income ones. We always have land acquisition challenges, there's no way there will be transition to industry if farmers have guaranteed income. If they don't trust industry at all, they sure as hell will not budge later with more guarantees in hand on agri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 hours ago, bharathh said: So who grows crops for food? Should people grow their own according to you? Farmers, but based on industrialization pace very few would be working in this sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 hours ago, kepler37b said: So you agree that MSP is a hyped up value for farm produce? Not hyped up but close to fair value. It is a complex formula which takes inputs into account and gets a final value. What farmers recieve is never close to MSP. They are exploited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 hours ago, kepler37b said: And wants other employees(Tax Payers) to compensate for his low value work. You have a problem. If his work is considered low value then you and I are two different human beings. Anyone who works should be respected. To me someone working in PSU and collecting wages even with a Ph.D from IIT and producing nothing is truly a low value work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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