Discussion on Farmers issues in India

[kepler37b]

The car clearly looks out of control. It was driven across the road. if you want to crush people you drive straight and escape. 

 

The driver was scared of something and in panic. OR he was impatient to cross the crowd and pressed accelerator instead of breaks. 

 

 

Edited October 4, 2021 by kepler37b

[Singh bling]

1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Politicians will approve compensation to anyone if elections are near.

But according to BJP they are khalistani , goons who don't represent farmers.Forget about khalistani even Sikh votes are so negligible in UP that they hardly matter to anyone.

[coffee_rules]

4 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

But according to BJP they are khalistani , goons who don't represent farmers.Forget about khalistani even Sikh votes are so negligible in UP that they hardly matter to anyone.

Farmers in UP is  for Jatt Pride, BJP doesn't want to antogonize farmers and lose caste votes. Plus the UP elections will decide the next central govt in 2024. It is huge for every party. Hence Yogi govt is playing it safe. It doesn't mean the minister's son guilty of killing on purpose.

[coffee_rules]

16 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

The car clearly looks out of control. It was driven across the road. if you want to crush people you drive straight and escape. 

 

The driver was scared of something and in panic. OR he was impatient to cross the crowd and pressed accelerator instead of breaks. 

 

 

{;us the slow motion video is misleading to show it was going straight. In real time, it would be evident how it happened. We don't know what happened earlier that video.

[speedheat]

19 minutes ago, kepler37b said:

The car clearly looks out of control. It was driven across the road. if you want to crush people you drive straight and escape. 

 

The driver was scared of something and in panic. OR he was impatient to cross the crowd and pressed accelerator instead of breaks. 

 

 

The video clearly shows how the driver ruthlessly drover over farmers, particularly the elderly. You must be an incredibly stupid human being to avoid it.

[randomGuy]

14 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

But according to BJP they are khalistani , goons who don't represent farmers.Forget about khalistani even Sikh votes are so negligible in UP that they hardly matter to anyone.

Calling someone khalistani (which many of them are) is nowhere close to lynching someone to death ... truth will come out....iss thread me bhi kuch ghatiya log hain...they will also be exposed like usual.

[speedheat]

46 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Ok, don't wait for an official investigation. Believe that the govt deliberately killed farmers and join people like these who are using the tragedy to their propaganda

 

 

 

I am not the supporter of sfj but the video have clearly busted the lies of it cell. Let the investigation report come in we shall see.

 

[Singh bling]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

 

No minister will deliberately run over people in an election year. Aap Chronology ko samjhiye @speedheat

Just hear what this eyewitness is saying 

 

It's very clear  that minister earlier threatened the farmers. May be his son in fit of anger asked his driver to run over farmers in retaliation farmers attacked killed whoever they got their hand.

 

You have to understand that this was not a preplanned incident O/W police who is actually very careful about security of politicians would had taken action much earlier.

 

[Singh bling]

3 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

Calling someone khalistani (which many of them are) is nowhere close to lynching someone to death ... truth will come out....iss thread me bhi kuch ghatiya log hain...they will also be exposed like usual.

This is not my question . My question is why compensation is announced if they are khalistani's . BTW one of biggest praise Yogi government is receiving that it had improved law and order massively. How come khalistani's organised violent protests infiltrated ministers security lynched bjp workers but ended up still getting compensation . Isn't it a big failure of Yogi government?

[coffee_rules]

9 minutes ago, speedheat said:

I am not the supporter of sfj but the video have clearly busted the lies of it cell. Let the investigation report come in we shall see.

 

So, the guy who was lynched and pleading to let him go, but was being forced to accept that the minister deliberately ran over on purpose . but he eventually didn't do... is a lie of IT cell. What lies is the IT cell forcing?

 

 

 

[coffee_rules]

Every journalist in India and Editor's guild had all kinds of messages to a Reuters journalist killed in Afg by Taliban. But here an Indian journalist was lynched by alleged farmers, and no journalist in India has anything to say, but 4 farmers died on the road. The elephant in the room is why are they on the roads? Why not on a khule maidan and keep having their maha-punch-ayat!

 

 

 

[coffee_rules]

32 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Just hear what this eyewitness is saying 

 

It's very clear  that minister earlier threatened the farmers. May be his son in fit of anger asked his driver to run over farmers in retaliation farmers attacked killed whoever they got their hand.

 

You have to understand that this was not a preplanned incident O/W police who is actually very careful about security of politicians would had taken action much earlier.

 

Eye witness walle. neela jhandewaale//aise bahut saare videos hain to set a narrative. I will wait for the official investigation. If all the opposition wants to bhadkao the people, they will be answered in elections. simple

[Singh bling]

17 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Eye witness walle. neela jhandewaale//aise bahut saare videos hain to set a narrative. I will wait for the official investigation. If all the opposition wants to bhadkao the people, they will be answered in elections. simple

Elections doesn't mean who is right and who is wrong. As I said Yogi is receiving lot's of praise because of law and order so he may sail through elections.

 

BTW in 1984 Congress committed one of the biggest genocide but got 400 seat majority. Does that mean 1984 riots were right? 

 

 

[randomGuy]

1 hour ago, Singh bling said:

This is not my question . My question is why compensation is announced if they are khalistani's . BTW one of biggest praise Yogi government is receiving that it had improved law and order massively. How come khalistani's organised violent protests infiltrated ministers security lynched bjp workers but ended up still getting compensation . Isn't it a big failure of Yogi government?

If those who died also pelted stones and lathis then they don't deserve the money...from accounts of people present, there definitely were miscreants who did exactly this(similar to what our soldiers face in Kashmir sometimes)... there is a possibility that this led driver to lose control...

[coffee_rules]

50 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Elections doesn't mean who is right and who is wrong. As I said Yogi is receiving lot's of praise because of law and order so he may sail through elections.

 

BTW in 1984 Congress committed one of the biggest genocide but got 400 seat majority. Does that mean 1984 riots were right? 

 

 

Are you equating the two incidents? Is this as big as 1984 where more than 5000 were lynched.,1984  win was a sympathy wave for IG. Not a verdict on Sikh genocide. 
 

This is a polarizing incident with hardly any clear evidence 

Edited October 4, 2021 by coffee_rules

[coffee_rules]

3 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

 

2BHK eco system 

[Singh bling]

27 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Are you equating the two incidents? Is this as big as 1984 where more than 5000 were lynched.,1984  win was a sympathy wave for IG. Not a verdict on Sikh genocide. 
 

This is a polarizing incident with hardly any clear evidence 

All I am saying Elections in India don't decide what is right or wrong. 

[Yoda-esque]

Anyone with sane mind can deduce how the incident could have happened
Protesters protesting in the small road and when the supporters arrived, pathar bhaji and danda beating started which probably taken the driver by surprise and he panicked, and lost the balance in that small road and could've fallen into ditch resulting in two lives being lost, and rest all these  gunda farmers mob lynching in public and these shameless supporters like [mention=6896]Under_Score[/mention] and [mention=21642]speedheat[/mention] are gleefully celebrating..
We can say it is a failure of government, they could've arrested these stone pelting lathi holding protesters beforehand , and avoided this ...At least now these moblycnhers should be put behind bar for their life...alas they are farmers who cant be touched, and optics is important for elections..
 

If they had arrested the jokers on 26th Jan,this wouldn't have happened.

[Yoda-esque]

Time has come to end this non sense. State must clamp down. Don’t worry about few thousand punju or Canadian supporters. 
 
For once, I want this is govt becomes fascist. These guys have no demands. They have no understanding. They are getting funded. 

Exactly

[mishra]

1 hour ago, Yoda-esque said:

7 hours ago, urbestfriend said:

Anyone with sane mind can deduce how the incident could have happened
Protesters protesting in the small road and when the supporters arrived, pathar bhaji and danda beating started which probably taken the driver by surprise and he panicked, and lost the balance in that small road and could've fallen into ditch resulting in two lives being lost, and rest all these  gunda farmers mob lynching in public and these shameless supporters like [mention=6896]Under_Score[/mention] and [mention=21642]speedheat[/mention] are gleefully celebrating..
We can say it is a failure of government, they could've arrested these stone pelting lathi holding protesters beforehand , and avoided this ...At least now these moblycnhers should be put behind bar for their life...alas they are farmers who cant be touched, and optics is important for elections..
 

If they had arrested the jokers on 26th Jan,this wouldn't have happened.

You need to check plane hijacking incident count around 1980s to understand how unchecked brazen Khalistani were in their attacks to India.

 

 This violence by Khalistanis in name of rioters/farmers is similar to that.
 

Frequency is increasing. I have a feeling that it will end up exactly the same way as it ended in 1984. People will take care of the problem if Asministration can’t.

 

And Khalistani will be safe in Canada while Unnocents will die in India

Edited October 4, 2021 by mishra