Can Washington Sundar bat at 4-5 in ODIs ?

[Suhaan]

Some posters are praising Bradman incarnate Iyer and those posters are none other Kaptaan fanboys,agreed Sundar has not managed batting average of 40+,but he doesn't bat up either,if he does he will surely score there too,Iyer is no special he is a mediocre batsman who is seen as successor to clown

If he can't play bouncers he automatically becomes a journeyman,

Sehwag Ganguly were bad facing short pitched deliveries but those days are gone

The moment Iyer arrives there is a barrage of bouncers to him and he eventually perishes, nevertheless i won't mind him being given few more opportunities to improve if he doesn't he should be kicked out before its too late or becomes an unfair call like Rayudu getting dumped just before WC

[putrevus]

For some genuises it is always about players who are out of the team .They somehow are better than those who are playing. Iyer may not be Bradman but he sure does not deserve to be dumped for a guy like Sundar. If Iyer cannot cut and is dumped  just before world cup so be it.Rayudu did not get dumped unfairly. 

 

Rohit Sharma was dumped before 2011 world cup and Kohli got to play based on the form. VVS laxman got dumped just before 2003 world cup. Players got dumped just before world cups before too. it happens all the time with all teams. So making a fuss about Rayudu is ridiculous.

 

MMQB is very easy.

[GautiMaan]

It's all about seeing how we can win another World Cup..end of story. Now there was a sameness to our batting lineup in 2019 and we had to accommodate the likes of Jadhav because we had no bowling cushion.

 

Sundar is someone who can be like a Yuvraj(not easy) or atleast Raina,a player worth his weight in gold in ODI's because of the options he provides.Such players need to backed if we want silverware.

[GautiMaan]

As for those bringing in Ranji Trophy,List A records etc well just look at the Nadeem vs Axar situation and just dont go by stats

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Some posters are praising Bradman incarnate Iyer and those posters are none other Kaptaan fanboys,agreed Sundar has not managed batting average of 40+,but he doesn't bat up either,if he does he will surely score there too,Iyer is no special he is a mediocre batsman who is seen as successor to clown

If he can't play bouncers he automatically becomes a journeyman,

Sehwag Ganguly were bad facing short pitched deliveries but those days are gone

The moment Iyer arrives there is a barrage of bouncers to him and he eventually perishes, nevertheless i won't mind him being given few more opportunities to improve if he doesn't he should be kicked out before its too late or becomes an unfair call like Rayudu getting dumped just before WC

 

Actually ganguly problem exploded during his captaincy stint but he was good against moving ball which is why he had runs in england. Also has 100 in Aus despite these so called problem. He had good release shots , iyer only has one showing stumps and hitting it over off side. Those days RR pressure was as high as today. Ganguly also made runs in SA against a very good attack infact he loved SA n Pak bowlers. 

 

Sehwag problem wasnt exploited coz against him even good balls went for 4 so bowler was always under pressure , he never feared short ball like iyer did this time. 

 

 

When we talk about those they were top batting talents in country iyer is no way better then guys like pant n gill who are sitting out

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, GautiMaan said:

As for those bringing in Ranji Trophy,List A records etc well just look at the Nadeem vs Axar situation and just dont go by stats

 

But axar had a slight better record in ranji to

[Suhaan]

For some here  like the clown fan boys anyone the clown plays is best for the interest of the team ,another days that same guy becomes talentless, mediocre when kaptaan drops him

It was blessing in disguise that Iyer got injured he was in line to debut in Aus,else it would have been calamity

Thank God he wasn't there, not saying as the OP said Sundar should be playing at 4,5,but there are others who will certainly do well than Iyer,who as everyone has said and seen is incompetent while facing pace

Edited February 17, 2021 by Suhaan

[GautiMaan]

10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

But axar had a slight better record in ranji to

Yes but Axar proved vastly more effective,going by equivalence there should not have been this much of difference between Nadeem and Axar.

[Adamant]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

For some genuises it is always about players who are out of the team .They somehow are better than those who are playing. Iyer may not be Bradman but he sure does not deserve to be dumped for a guy like Sundar. If Iyer cannot cut and is dumped  just before world cup so be it.Rayudu did not get dumped unfairly. 

 

Rohit Sharma was dumped before 2011 world cup and Kohli got to play based on the form. VVS laxman got dumped just before 2003 world cup. Players got dumped just before world cups before too. it happens all the time with all teams. So making a fuss about Rayudu is ridiculous.

 

MMQB is very easy.

Iyer is a spin basher. I agree that as of now Sundar isn't good enough but Iyer is definitely not the future. 

 

 

 

[Adamant]

Rohit

Gill/Dhawan

Kohli

Pant

Rahul

Pandya

Jadeja

Shardul(don't troll me for this) 

Chahal/Kuldeep

Nattu

Bumrah

 

I think Shardul is the only solution to add some competency to our lower order, we can't afford four tailenders. 

If Shardul has a brain he should focus on improving his batting. 

This way we'll have 6 bowling options with a good batting depth. 

[Majestic]

4 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Iyer is a spin basher. I agree that as of now Sundar isn't good enough but Iyer is definitely not the future. 

 

 

 

I find it weird that we have Gill and Pant waiting in and people want to play Sundar at 4. 

[putrevus]

Sundar is now flavor of the month.

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

I like the cut of Sundar. Batting could only improve but more importantly has the temperament needed. Might actually emerge as the first world class bat from TN. But he needs to play a LOT of List A and FC matches in the next two years. Instead of vegetating him in Team India's dressing room, allow him to develop playing for TN, South Zone, and India A. And keep playing him for India in low key bilaterals. This ought to be the plan for him.

 

When he ll be free from international duty surely he play domestic, but when not in squad he shud definately play for India A and bat up the order.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Sundar batting will improve massively if RCB starts to make him open , although this can develop white ball bad habbits as well

[ShoonyaSifar]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Sundar is now flavor of the month.

Deservedly so. When you start your test career with such imperious performances in tough conditions, no praise is high enough.

 

If only he had a TM which could create right opportunities for him to harness his full potential..

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 hours ago, Adamant said:

Rohit

Gill/Dhawan

Kohli

Pant

Rahul

Pandya

Jadeja

Shardul(don't troll me for this) 

Chahal/Kuldeep

Nattu

Bumrah

 

I think Shardul is the only solution to add some competency to our lower order, we can't afford four tailenders. 

If Shardul has a brain he should focus on improving his batting. 

This way we'll have 6 bowling options with a good batting depth. 

 

Not in favour of playing someone as be bowler coz he can bat.

1st we shud play our best bowlers. Shardul eco is very high in LOI and he does bowl a lot of loose balls. His batting wud comes once in q while but his eco wud hurt every day. He is good as backup but not as top 3 bowler

[putrevus]

Deservedly so. When you start your test career with such imperious performances in tough conditions, no praise is high enough.
 
If only he had a TM which could create right opportunities for him to harness his full potential..

Yes, so did Thakur who played more important role. That doesn’t mean both need to be played continuously.

They got game due to injuries to others. TM is doing just fine.


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[ShoonyaSifar]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

Yes, so did Thakur who played more important role. That doesn’t mean both need to be played continuously.

They got game due to injuries to others. TM is doing just fine.


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The chutiya TM was basking in the glory of their success in Aus. Moment Genius took over, he has started to discard them one by one with the coaches caving in.

 

Thakur, Sundar, Siraj done. Soon will be the turn of Pant and Gill and subsequently Rahane and Pujara. The guy is a jealous prick, nothing else. 

[Adamant]

4 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

The chutiya TM was basking in the glory of their success in Aus. Moment Genius took over, he has started to discard them one by one with the coaches caving in.

 

Thakur, Sundar, Siraj done. Soon will be the turn of Pant and Gill and subsequently Rahane and Pujara. The guy is a jealous prick, nothing else. 

Siraj just played the last match. Your whining makes absolutely zero sense. 

 

Axar took 7 wickets, he was the need of the hour,  Washi isn't good enough for second spinner in Asian conditions, he can improve but as of now he isn't there. 

Secondly when Jadeja returns Sundar wil be the backup. 

 

Also are you serious about thakur? Was there a spot for him in this eleven. 

Pant is playing as our keeper batsman, i remember you whining that Kohli will play saha ahead of him in India. 

 

Rahane and Pujara have been in the team since his captaincy started, you are the most clueless poster here. 

There's no logic in your posts. Absolutely none

[putrevus]

10 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

The chutiya TM was basking in the glory of their success in Aus. Moment Genius took over, he has started to discard them one by one with the coaches caving in.

 

Thakur, Sundar, Siraj done. Soon will be the turn of Pant and Gill and subsequently Rahane and Pujara. The guy is a jealous prick, nothing else. 

What is your point. TM basking in glory ??? They should bask in the glory what they did with that team may not repeated for another 50 years.Your whining makes no sense at all. 

 

Weren't you the one who was whining about Nadeem also. Nadeem stunk it is as simple as that,. That jealous pr**ck won 33 test matches , so he is doing just fine .