zen Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 With T20WC21 around the corner, some stats from Cricviz: Top order a) True run and dismissal rates: b) Dot ball percentage c) Opening batsmen in middle overs d) Batting (top order batsmen) v spin in middle overs e) Batting avg v pace f) Attack & timing rating Mariyam 1 Link to comment
zen Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) SDP Edited March 19, 2021 by zen Link to comment
zen Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Edited March 19, 2021 by zen Link to comment
zen Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Edited March 19, 2021 by zen Link to comment
zen Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) summary/comments/insights/snapshot on the data above (putting it together) Batting Top order Standouts Agarwal for his high SR, batting in middle overs and v spin and relatively low dot ball percentage ... Could be better v high pace Kishan for being excellent v high pace ... However, needs to improve his dot ball % SKY for his balanced performance v pace (avg above 30) ... Also balanced when it comes to relying on timing and attacking shots ... However, plays 35% dot ball Kohli for an anchor type of role as he has the lowest dot percentage (29%) among the group. Good avg v high pace (above 30) and spin ... However, SR is middle orders can be better Bummers (from experienced players) KL: excellent v high pace ... however, low SR in the middle overs and v spin (may be the orange cap syndrome?) Rohit: high dot ball percentage (38%) and poor avg v high pace (17, the lowest for the group) Middle order Standouts SDP rules w/ high scoring rate per over, 6s hit and death over batting Pant, Samson & DK do well too in death overs Bowling Spin Sundar has the most # of balls bowled and best economy in PP Varun C, R Chahar & Chahal have above avg low economy & SR Ashwin also strikes a good balance b/w economy and strike rate Pace Saini tries to bowl more quick deliveries than any Indian bowler ... Mr. Pace Krishna too bowls pacy spells D Chahar and Bhuvi, as we know, have been swing kings in PP... Thakur & Mavi do well too ... followed by Siraj & Saini Edited March 19, 2021 by zen New guy and Clarke 1 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, zen said: reserved for comments/insights on the data above Can’t wait for pujara to top all the charts after this IPL kohli, raki05 and Clarke 3 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Please expand on the takeaways from these stats. Who looks at just bunch of numbers on charts and get excited to have a discussion? Edited March 19, 2021 by Global.Baba Mariyam, raki05 and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
sage Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 what about First Chance Average? Link to comment
Tibarn Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Is True Dismissal Rate better when it is higher or lower? Depending on which, either Shaw/Agarwal/Kishan are the best batsmen or Rahul/Kohli Edited March 19, 2021 by Tibarn Link to comment
zen Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tibarn said: Is True Dismissal Rate better when it is higher or lower? Depending on which, either Shaw/Agarwal/Kishan are the best batsmen or Rahul/Kohli Higher the true dismissal rate, the better ... Similarly, higher the true run rate the better .... So we have to evaluate considering both, trying to find the optimized solution ... Based on how teams play their cricket, a team like Eng may prefer more Agarwals, while Ind may prefer more KLs PS the numbers are from 2016, so if the last two years are considered, SKY (and Kishan too as he played as support player early on) would probably have moved up esp. on the TRR, and maybe also TDR, to create some sort of a midpoint b/w the two extremes ... Apart from that, we may also need to look at other parameters including "clutch" abilities Edited March 20, 2021 by zen Link to comment
chewy Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 India bowling is pretty solid whatever options they take. Batting still can improve, death over batting is key, from stats Pandya, Pant and Samson way ahead of rest. Good thing is two are in current XI, Samson/Kishan needs come in for Iyer. Link to comment
Serpico Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 18 hours ago, zen said: Higher the true dismissal rate, the better ... Similarly, higher the true run rate the better .... So we have to evaluate considering both, trying to find the optimized solution ... Based on how teams play their cricket, a team like Eng may prefer more Agarwals, while Ind may prefer more KLs PS the numbers are from 2016, so if the last two years are considered, SKY (and Kishan too as he played as support player early on) would probably have moved up esp. on the TRR, and maybe also TDR, to create some sort of a midpoint b/w the two extremes ... Apart from that, we may also need to look at other parameters including "clutch" abilities so TRR is strike rate and TDR is avg? what is the extra benefit of these new formulas here? a graph with SR and avg would have shown the same results no Link to comment
zen Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Serpico said: so TRR is strike rate and TDR is avg? what is the extra benefit of these new formulas here? a graph with SR and avg would have shown the same results no TRR (run rate) and TDR (balls) are on a relative scale (the cross = say mid point of both the indicators). Therefore, for batsmen, pluses are better; for bowlers, minuses Link to comment
Serpico Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 12:08 AM, zen said: TRR (run rate) and TDR (balls) are on a relative scale (the cross = say mid point of both the indicators). Therefore, for batsmen, pluses are better; for bowlers, minuses again exactly how avg and SR work for batsmen and bowlers Link to comment
zen Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, Serpico said: again exactly how avg and SR work for batsmen and bowlers There is a difference as on a relative scale, you can see the difference straightaway An avg of 40 with a SR of 150 and an avg of 38 and a SR of 158 can mean different things based on a variety of factors Link to comment
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