kepler37b Posted January 2, 2022 Author Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) Ominous signs of third wave. But no reports of icu and oxygen panic. Looks like the tiger has turned into a cat. Or we need to wait for more time. Edited January 2, 2022 by kepler37b
Real McCoy Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/24/2021 at 12:17 PM, kepler37b said: Covid is not just a resp disease. It has been shown to cause blood clots in various organs. I didn't know about that. But I know from distant relatives that vaccines contribute to blood clots
EnterTheVoid Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 3:04 AM, kepler37b said: You live in Mumbai? No mate, I don't. But I have interests and friends in Mumbai. And Delhi ( @Stuge). Stuge 1
EnterTheVoid Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Ominous signs of third wave. But no reports of icu and oxygen panic. Looks like the tiger has turned into a cat. Or we need to wait for more time. Unfortunately, I have to agree with your observations on the upcoming 3rd wave. I'm expecting this wave to die down the last week of March/April. Had to post the Mumbai trip. Again.
jf1gp_1 Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 11:27 PM, coffee_rules said: One in family tested positive after going to a movie in a theatre, here in NJ. Now all of us are in isolation and quarantined. Will get tested after 5 days. All the best and hope person tested positive is feeling better/
kepler37b Posted January 2, 2022 Author Posted January 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lord said: has the 3rd wave started? Yes. But I do not see the rush for oxygen and hospital beds.
Lord Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Yes. But I do not see the rush for oxygen and hospital beds. it hasn't hit peak yet. So too early to say.Also variant is mild and with vaccinations hopefully it is better this time.
kepler37b Posted January 2, 2022 Author Posted January 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, Lord said: it hasn't hit peak yet. So too early to say.Also variant is mild and with vaccinations hopefully it is better this time. 8,063 new Covid cases in Mumbai, 27% higher than Sat (rediff.com) 90% of cases are asymptomatic. And NOT a single death. Good going. Lord 1
Lord Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, kepler37b said: 8,063 new Covid cases in Mumbai, 27% higher than Sat (rediff.com) 90% of cases are asymptomatic. And NOT a single death. Good going. Omicron hasnt caused any death anywhere,no?
kepler37b Posted January 2, 2022 Author Posted January 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, Lord said: Omicron hasnt caused any death anywhere,no? No idea. That data is just for Mumbai. Lord 1
ravishingravi Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 Mumbai is good. But our govt is hopeless. But thats perhaps true across the board.
R!TTER Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Lord said: Omicron hasnt caused any death anywhere,no? Less lethal than delta but more transmissible, like I said on another forum this is going the way of Influenza! Lord 1
Stuge Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 19 hours ago, Lord said: has the 3rd wave started? Yes .. atleast in Metro it is the beginning of 3rd wave. . other parts of India should have a delay of 2 weeks or so but will happen eventually.
Stuge Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 19 hours ago, Lord said: it hasn't hit peak yet. So too early to say.Also variant is mild and with vaccinations hopefully it is better this time. Plus ,People don't get hospitalised as soon as they get tested. Yes ,based on early numbers it does seen less hospitalisation at the same stage vs Delta .Say 5-6 times diffence but keep in mind Omicron s spreading very rapidly ,and quickly .....So , it's quite possible 6 to 8 times the cases will require for similar number of hospitalisation .
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 12:57 PM, coffee_rules said: One in family tested positive after going to a movie in a theatre, here in NJ. Now all of us are in isolation and quarantined. Will get tested after 5 days. Take care, coffee anna. Hope the symptoms were mild and the tests are negative now. coffee_rules 1
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Stuge said: Yes .. atleast in Metro it is the beginning of 3rd wave. . other parts of India should have a delay of 2 weeks or so but will happen eventually. However, thanks to (1) Omicron being an upper respiratory pathogen rather than a lung pathogen and (2) moderate/high vaccination rates: high case rates will be uncoupled from hospitalization and death rates. Overall, from my readings, here are some updated numbers comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals (somewhat Europe/US centric). Some of the data include Omicron, but most are from around Dec 20. Omicron data will take at least 2 more weeks to be reliable. (1) Twice mRNA-vaccinated individuals are 4x less likely than unvaccinated individuals to catch CoViD 19. Boosted individuals are even less likely to catch CoViD 19. (2) Once infected, twice vaccinated individuals are 12x to 15x less likely (depending on age) to end up in the hospital and 15x to 25x less likely (depending on age) to pass away compared to infected, unvaccinated individuals. (3) Peak viral loads in the nose tend to be similar in unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals, even when vaccinated individuals are showing only mild symptoms. But, the average infection-clearance time is about 8 days in in unvaccinated individuals and only 4.5 days in vaccinated individuals. Thus, unvaccinated individuals are about 2x as likely to transmit than vaccinated individuals. For Omicron, vaccine efficacy drops significantly after 6 months of vaccination (or prior infection) if the measured outcome is infection, but not when measured outcome is hospitalization/death. In other words, immediate circulating antibodies from the vaccines don't neutralize O as well as they did the ancestral variants, but memory T-cell and other neutralization mechanisms are able to clear the infection before it gets out of control. Edited January 3, 2022 by BacktoCricaddict coffee_rules, EnterTheVoid and Mariyam 1 2
coffee_rules Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 7 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Take care, coffee anna. Hope the symptoms were mild and the tests are negative now. Tested positive from a Home Rapid antigen test. No facility is doing rapid tests here due to too many cases. Managing fever and cough for now. Have oxymeter and enjoying isolation. Just didn’t want fever (101-102) for now BacktoCricaddict, zen, dial_100 and 1 other 4
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Tested positive from a Home Rapid antigen test. No facility is doing rapid tests here due to too many cases. Managing fever and cough for now. Have oxymeter and enjoying isolation. Just didn’t want fever (101-102) for now Testing is a total mess in the US. Appointments are hard to come by and we seem to have to depend on home kits - not a good situation. Hope the fever breaks, the cough subsides and everything gets better soon. coffee_rules 1
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