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1 hour ago, gattaca said:

Now govt issues an advisory for a fungus (Mucormycosis) complication from covid. Man every day a new symptom. Its very hard to believe this is not a lab made virus. I always thought lab made virus is conspiracy theory.  Nothing changes so fast like that. 

 

Exactly. Thats precisely I am thinking too. I mean how often Flu is mutating? I am not expert but this mutation non-sense should have been established phenomena. It takes some time for mutation. Now when viruses move through so many bodies, they could mutate but so should a regular flu or other things.  

 

Flu in so many years is well in control. Why? Again I am as ignorant in this field as they get. Really know nothing about any of medical/biology field.

BacktoCricaddict Grand Master

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On 5/8/2021 at 11:08 PM, rkt.india said:

Only covaxin is going to be effective against most variants. Anyway this virus is absolutely unpredictable. So 100% results are impossible.

True.  Attenuated vaccines are more broad-spectrum. 

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19 minutes ago, dial_100 said:

 

Exactly. Thats precisely I am thinking too. I mean how often Flu is mutating? I am not expert but this mutation non-sense should have been established phenomena. It takes some time for mutation. Now when viruses move through so many bodies, they could mutate but so should a regular flu or other things.  

 

Flu in so many years is well in control. Why? Again I am as ignorant in this field as they get. Really know nothing about any of medical/biology field.

Flu is not exactly on control atleast in US. Still  so many die ever year because flu virus changes every season. But it is less deadlier. This one attacks your lungs. 

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12 minutes ago, dial_100 said:

 

Exactly. Thats precisely I am thinking too. I mean how often Flu is mutating? I am not expert but this mutation non-sense should have been established phenomena. It takes some time for mutation. Now when viruses move through so many bodies, they could mutate but so should a regular flu or other things.  

 

Flu in so many years is well in control. Why? Again I am as ignorant in this field as they get. Really know nothing about any of medical/biology field.

As human populations achieve herd immunity, the infection rate reaches a lower steady state and keeps overall replication rates low.   

 

Fewer rounds of replication --> Fewer changes in gene sequence --> Fewer variants  --> Fewer VOCs (variants of concern).  

 

Moreover, the less deadly variants tend to coexist better with humans and circulate more than the ones that end up killing their hosts.  So, the less deadly ones linger long-term causing milder disease and not setting off alarm bells in human minds.    

 

To reach that steady state where specific, less deadly variants become "endemic," we have 2 options:

(a) let populations reach herd immunity naturally (which is what many people want, but that will kill large numbers of people over many years like the Spanish flu did.  At that rate, 140 million people would die today.). 

(b) The other option is to reach herd immunity by vaccination.   

 

In the meantime keep replication rates low by physical distancing, masks etc. because ... Fewer rounds of replication --> Fewer .... (you get my drift).

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3 hours ago, dial_100 said:

 

Exactly. Thats precisely I am thinking too. I mean how often Flu is mutating? I am not expert but this mutation non-sense should have been established phenomena. It takes some time for mutation. Now when viruses move through so many bodies, they could mutate but so should a regular flu or other things.  

 

Flu in so many years is well in control. Why? Again I am as ignorant in this field as they get. Really know nothing about any of medical/biology field.

Flu has much lower transmission rate.

Flu has a much lower death rate.

Flu has a much shorter incubation period.

Those 3 factors make flu not as transmissible and not as deadly.  Flu still kills hundreds of thousands every year, but covid-19 is in the whole another level in terms of being contagious, allowing long incubation period, and being deadlier in symptomatic patients.

 

Also, flu mutates much faster than the corona virus. In a few years, perhaps covid-19 would be like the flu as it becomes endemic and every transmission has potential for more mutations, but the population as a whole is more resistant due to multiple vaccines.
 

 

rkt.india Grand Master

rkt.india

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8 hours ago, gattaca said:


They are steroids. They help to strengthen you. Covid weakens a person. These will help. 

These aren't steroids. Remdesivir is antiviral. Other two are antibiotics. 

rkt.india Grand Master

rkt.india

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6 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

So on a positive note, we seem to be at or just beyond the peak now. In couple of days our recoveries will exceed active cases. 
 

By end of the month hopefully India will see some relief. 
 


https://mygov.in/covid-19/


 

 

Sunday and Monday numbers don't give the right idea. Wait for wed-sat.

rkt.india Grand Master

rkt.india

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4 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

True.  Attenuated vaccines are more broad-spectrum. 

But with Covaxin, quality control is important. Virus must be inactivated. 

rkt.india Grand Master

rkt.india

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43 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:


Decrease has been since Friday. 

We had over 4 lac cases on Friday and Saturday.

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13 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:


Health is state subject - Constitution of India. 

Leave it .. Please come here and live with us ... Don't teach me your **** while these assholes dream leaders of yours love see dying people .As if its their fetish to see see people die while they build Corona memorial over the died bodies of my near and dear one who died .

 

 

For you dead is just a number ...For me they are more than that .

 

 

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10 hours ago, gattaca said:

Now govt issues an advisory for a fungus (Mucormycosis) complication from covid. Man every day a new symptom. Its very hard to believe this is not a lab made virus. I always thought lab made virus is conspiracy theory.  Nothing changes so fast like that. 

 

9 hours ago, ravishingravi said:


It’s made in lab. That is a given. 

Mucormycosis is due fungus which in naturally present in environment which we have normally immunity against but  when Covid hits it makes your body week and strong medication also which leading to people getting Mucormycosis and some doctors suspect its due medication( mainly steroids) not given at right time or amount  this what happens if medical facilities or overburdened and lack proper guidance for Doctors who are really stressed  

ravishingravi Grand Master

ravishingravi

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1 hour ago, Stuge said:

Leave it .. Please come here and live with us ... Don't teach me your **** while these assholes dream leaders of yours love see dying people .As if its their fetish to see see people die while they build Corona memorial over the died bodies of my near and dear one who died .

 

 

For you dead is just a number ...For me they are more than that .

 

 

 

Live with us ? Where are you living ? Yeah come live in Goregaon, Mumbai where BMC official says there are no oxygen beds for my parents but we can arrange one if I pay 30,000 upfront. You can also join me in Cama hospital where there is seperate vaccination queue that is managed by various officials and you can get vaccine without token or prior appointment at 2000. 

 

So, spare me your rant. We are all angry. But health is state subject. Thats just a fact. 

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