mishra Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, gattaca said: This is from someone who is close. They had 50 deaths in Andhra not even one reported as covid death. This is happening in Telangana as well a person who know is tested positive but they didnt even record it. This is down to State Administration only. Aangan vaadi workers and Admin in UP is definitely working now.
gattaca Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, G_B_ said: thats bs dude. My village is in northern Maharashtra and tests were routinely carried out. If you look at maharashtra cases for example the most rural districts are showing the highest numbers. How are they treated though ? The problem is also it takes long time for them to reach a medical facility ? This is a big problem for rural india.
G_B_ Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, gattaca said: How are they treated though ? The problem is also it takes long time for them to reach a medical facility ? This is a big problem for rural india. Well i cant comment on other states but maharashtra is a majority urban population. Most villages are 100km from a relatively major city. In my village the exteme cases were taken to ozar or nashik. Our village is 12 km from ozer and 60 km from nashik. Takes roughly 2 hours via tempo.
G_B_ Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 40 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: So whats the reasons your estimate of deaths is 3 x. The cremations get filled up with even 1.1 x deaths. So, that's not a proper indicator I speak regularly to a relative who is head of sion hospital. Know him to be a politically neutral man. 3 to 4 times are his estimates
Vilander Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 3 hours ago, G_B_ said: As I dont want to build further on this debate this will be my last post. https://www.indiatoday.in/diu/story/covid-19-vaccination-most-indian-districts-have-covered-less-than-10-of-their-population-1798915-2021-05-05 As can be seen in the map above. Rajasthan (population more than Gujarat), Kerala and Chhatisgrah , all opposition run states have better coverage than Gujarat. Infact we can see Tamil nadu surrounded by districts which have a relatively high coverage of the vaccine, in AP Karnataka and Kerala. Its also to be noted, I am not from Gujarat. But if some people want to have a chip of victimhood on their shoulders I leave it to them. Not everything is about Modi. lol nothing can be done with people who fail to see the obvious. you are giving stats that show poor coverage in TN. I have shown links where i show vaccine shortage in TN in the past 4 weeks. Guj has had 14 million doeses so far. TN 6 million or 7 mil not clear. You would imaging in such a scenario TN would have a healthier pipeline of incoming vaccine shots. Lol No Guj still has 220% bigger incoming vaccine pipeline. Why ? because BJP favors Guj since Modi and Shaw are from there. Bottom-line. Can not be escaped from. Sorry. BJP should do better and not play petty politics.
Vilander Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 3 hours ago, G_B_ said: But if some people want to have a chip of victimhood on their shoulders I leave it to them. Not everything is about Modi. How is stating facts victimhood. if you dont like what i state, i can not help it. Give me one reason why Guj should have 14 mil vaccines and TN 6 mil - when guj has 60 mil population and TN 83. Plain simple - give me straight answer. TN has had vaccine hesitancy and wastage at 8.5 Guj at 3.5 pc so - wastage argument does not hold - in real numbers its similar wastage.
Vilander Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: ^^undercounting should not impact positivity. Mortality remains same even with undercount, means worrisome. A lot are dying. We should look at positivity in the next few days average, early signs show a dip in the curve. true. Guj has positivity rate of 2-4 %. TN has positivity rate of 20% lets rush Vaccines to Gujrat. aaaararaaaaaaaaa
ravishingravi Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, G_B_ said: I speak regularly to a relative who is head of sion hospital. Know him to be a politically neutral man. 3 to 4 times are his estimates To me its not about political. I just dont get the logistics. I mean 1.5 times, I can still give it a thought. But 3-4 times, ie 1 million bodies. Even for India, thats a lot. Edited May 18, 2021 by ravishingravi
ravishingravi Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 @Vilander Whats wrong with you man ? I cant make out if you are trolling or you are genuinely unhappy. If BJP or Modi has to be vindictive there are much better candidates. This is such a "paavam" state which has in fact given him higher votes and seats than ever. It just doesn't add up. Its just sad that TN is in this position. It shouldn't have been and vaccines are not the cause. Lets face it.
coffee_rules Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 Every death in India, a death certificate will be provided. So, we will know in a few months time what the actual deaths instead of estimating the x times factor. Rest all is narrative and politics. G_B_ and dial_100 2
vvvslaxman Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 Not a day goes by without seeing some sad RIP news on my facebook feed. Y day my relative's friend. He is only in his 20s. gattaca, Vivek92, G_B_ and 1 other 4
gattaca Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Not a day goes by without seeing some sad RIP news on my facebook feed. Y day my relative's friend. He is only in his 20s. Any other health issues he had ? Like Asthama or heart issues ?
gattaca Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) A friend of mine was sick. He is in Hyderabad. He went to give a test and later he found they lost his sample. He is ok now but imagine if he had it. Edited May 18, 2021 by gattaca
vvvslaxman Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, gattaca said: Any other health issues he had ? Like Asthama or heart issues ? No pre-existing conditions. Lung infection is a serious issue. You could escape and still feel the effect for a very long time. Some escape. Some don't.
gattaca Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: No pre-existing conditions. Lung infection is a serious issue. You could escape and still feel the effect for a very long time. Some escape. Some don't. You need medication for sure to fight covid. May be he didn’t realise it or if it was too late. Doctor in our family said they only way to treat covid is treat early and aggressively. The new variant is really attacking young people.
vvvslaxman Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, gattaca said: You need medication for sure to fight covid. May be he didn’t realise it or if it was too late. Doctor in our family said they only way to treat covid is treat early and aggressively. The new variant is really attacking young people. There is also a theory that youngsters don't feel the full effect immediately. By the time they find out it is already too late. Not sure which one is. I only have basic info. There is one more former colleague of mine who lost both her father in law/mother in law in the space of 2 days. Probably in their 60s? Not sure. There is a good chance they had some conditions. COVID accelerates to an extent, a probable death in 10 years time will become 10 days death Edited May 18, 2021 by vvvslaxman coffee_rules and gattaca 2
vvvslaxman Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 Those who are in India. Please please stay at home. Ride it out. Many people that i know are going to regret for the rest of their lives for a simple mistake. One such story is one of my wife's friend visited her dad from UK to celebrate wedding anniversary. She contracted COVID and passed on to parents. All hospitalized. Her dad died. To perform rituals (since girls don't do) her best friend (from school days) volunteered. He did the rituals He contracted and he died too. dial_100 and coffee_rules 2
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