Facebook, Twitter to be blocked in India from tomorrow?

[coffee_rules]

5 hours ago, Mariyam said:

^^^ It is alleged that team Trump used data that Cambridge Analytica stole data from FB and targeted certain demographic profiles, sent them very specific ads etc.

Team trump rode that wave when they could.

 

Just like how exit polls are banned before the completion of elections, I don't think the day will be far when the EC bans certain features on FB/Twitter for 'unduly' influencing voters.

Ghana and some African countries block SM before elections to avoid spread of fake news and biases by SM

https://qz.com/africa/696552/more-african-countries-are-blocking-internet-access-during-elections/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

 

[gattaca]

21 minutes ago, Black Zero said:

Where it stop, people will find the alternative, plus in age of VPNs even this blocking suff don't work. 

I am taking about influencing people at billion. Social media has that reach. you cant propagate fake news if you ask them not propagate political propaganda. 

[Yoda-esque]

Jan 6 was Insurrection, Domestic Terrorism, Attempted coup, attack on democracy. 
Jan 26 was dissent, revolt against fascism, democracy at work, people’s voice vote

But of course..

[coffee_rules]

3 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Agree....twitter is very biased and always been. I have no issues when they banned Kangana's account. But what about likes of Kunal Kamra, Dhruv Rathee, Rana Ayyub etc and why they are not yet banned then? Both the side does the same thing i.e accuse the opposition party. But twitter selectively ban the side that dosen't fit their political agenda

 

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The lelis  you mention are trained to hide attention from watch. They use words that are very obvious of their purpose. Some like Prashant Bhushan are dumb as Kangana to avoid censure and ban. But the real bias of SM is letting people like Veena Malik, Mahathir. Sharjeel Usmani etc go freewheeling with hatred, while ban RW nutters

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, mishra said:

No it cant ban people arbitrarily. It has to follow what law says and mske policies which it can justify legally

They have it in fine print when you create an account, they can ban when they fit it’s right. Just like a restaurant reserves the right to entry as long as they are not discriminating against human rights.

[Lord]

https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1397528555630653441

Edited May 26, 2021 by Lord

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Yoda-esque said:

Is it trying to silence Dakait? 

The fake farmers came ,had their way,damaged property and brought down the tri color.At what point do stop you calling it free speech? When it turns to action? When people are injured? When property is damaged?

 

 

You are okay with twitter banning Trump because of Capitol fiasco but you aren't okay with Govt of India asking for banning of twitter handles because of Red Fort violence.

 

Tell me again,How does that work?

Must be a special kind of hypocrisy.

 

 

 

Twitter acts based on complaints.  They have banned people from both sides. Did they ban Modi or any other right wing leader from the world?  I have complained about so many violent posts. They have promptly removed. 

 

https://www.thequint.com/news/politics/sikh-banned-social-media-siyasat-punjab-operation-bluestar-ghallughara-facebook-instagram

 

https://www.news18.com/news/tech/facebook-temporarily-banned-a-resignmodi-hashtag-says-it-was-a-mistake-3687962.html

 

 

 

[ravishingravi]

9 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Why?

 

 

 

Ok. Let me rephrase. There has to be strict clear guidelines for twitter or any platform to operate in India and consequences of violation should be ban. We cannot compromise internal security and sovereignty to some mojo sitting in US who is not within our jurisdiction. Either it is functioning as an intermediary or its proclaiming editorial rights, not both. If it can start to pass judgements and take calls even before authorized courts, with the justification that it is private entity, we are in trouble. 

 

Now for some random thoughts :- 

My views on twitter specifically have completely changed. During the Arab spring, I thought it could be a force of change. But I think in the aftermath, its clear that it can only cause Arab spring in different forms  across the globe.

 

I have been following US politics just as a theatre or film for 20 odd years. I frankly thought many times that it is lunatic asylum and still do. And I was so glad that we didn't this kind of stupid polarization in India. We have our own issues, but this is blood feud echo chamber partisan talking points. Twitter especially combined with other media platforms has fast tracked us on that path. This is bad for democracy to have platforms that create more echo chambers and reinforce biases. We need to have considerable mass of people who are non aligned and can shift directions when required. 

 

Is Twitter ideologically inclined ? I think the results speaks for itself. Plus there is an "internal" policy and "internal" process, which they are not obliged to justify. And I think its fair. But then the platform has to be treated as such. If there is transparent mechanism for flagging, warning or banning, we haven't seen it. Then should then start disclosing all the back end data before ban. They can't and they won't. 

 

 

 

 

For the whole episode, it is a must watch. The desi lawyer actually ends showing up Twitter as ham handed stone slackers managing the back end decision 

 

 

Edited May 26, 2021 by ravishingravi

[Yoda-esque]

 
Ok. Let me rephrase. There has to be strict clear guidelines for twitter or any platform to operate in India and consequences of violation should be ban. We cannot compromise internal security and sovereignty to some mojo sitting in US who is not within our jurisdiction. Either it is functioning as an intermediary or its proclaiming editorial rights, not both. If it can start to pass judgements and take calls even before authorized courts, with the justification that it is private entity, we are in trouble. 
 
Now for some random thoughts :- 
My views on twitter specifically have completely changed. During the Arab spring, I thought it could be a force of change. But I think in the aftermath, its clear that it can only cause Arab spring in different forms  across the globe.
 
I have been following US politics just as a theatre or film for 20 odd years. I frankly thought many times that it is lunatic asylum and still do. And I was so glad that we didn't this kind of stupid polarization in India. We have our own issues, but this is blood feud echo chamber partisan talking points. Twitter especially combined with other media platforms has fast tracked us on that path. This is bad for democracy to have platforms that create more echo chambers and reinforce biases. We need to have considerable mass of people who are non aligned and can shift directions when required. 
 
Is Twitter ideologically inclined ? I think the results speaks for itself. Plus there is an "internal" policy and "internal" process, which they are not obliged to justify. And I think its fair. But then the platform has to be treated as such. If there is transparent mechanism for flagging, warning or banning, we haven't seen it. Then should then start disclosing all the back end data before ban. They can't and they won't. 
 
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For the whole episode, it is a must watch. The desi lawyer actually ends showing up Twitter as ham handed stone slackers managing the back end decision 
 
 

No doubt twitter had a very strong bias.Anyone trying to say otherwise and trying to bury that under the mask of "Trumpism" is biased

[Yoda-esque]

This vijaya gadde suffers from the classic brown sepoys affliction lol

 

Such arrogance and being blind to her own bias.

 

I hope twitter is banned and soon...

 

 

[ravishingravi]

1 minute ago, Yoda-esque said:

This vijaya gadde suffers from the classic brown sepoys affliction lol

 

In fact it is one of the major weaknesses for India, Indians abroad especially high ranking positions. Not all of course.

[mishra]

3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Twitter acts based on complaints.  They have banned people from both sides. Did they ban Modi or any other right wing leader from the world?  I have complained about so many violent posts. They have promptly removed. 

 

https://www.thequint.com/news/politics/sikh-banned-social-media-siyasat-punjab-operation-bluestar-ghallughara-facebook-instagram

 

https://www.news18.com/news/tech/facebook-temporarily-banned-a-resignmodi-hashtag-says-it-was-a-mistake-3687962.html

 

 

 

Bahoot upkaar twitter kaa. Otherwise bechare Modi ka to career hi chaupat ho jataa

[Austin 3:!6]

Its not only twitter or facebook but most of the western institution tries too hard to be politically correct and align with left. Look how they are doing bhangra over George Floyd's death anniversary. The same media would never highlight that 30 people died in BLM movement or loots that these goons did in the name of BLM protests. Floyd himself was a criminal who looted from a pregnant woman at gunpoint. He was no hero...but if you say that openly you would be called a racist. I am not saying killing him was right but the extend western media goes to glorify him is hilarious.

 

Trump's tweet been taken down for calling it Chinese virus bcoz aparently it was racist. But they openly calls it Indian strain just bcoz India is ruled by a right wing leader.

 

When people were doing protest against lockdown, British media almost called them terrorists for spreading coronavirus. Thousand of people are marching Central London almost everyday protesting against Israel but they are not spreading covid. The virus aparently dont spread in BLM or Palestine protests and only does when there are no agenda driven protest like anti lockdown.

 

If hypocricy has a definition then left align western institutions are epitome of it. I can write so many things and give so many examples of such open hypocricies. Just hope this trash dosent come to India.

 

I am not saying right wing is any good...infact far from it. But I find them much more genuine that left liberal. Afterall, isnt it a great irony that people teach socialism in the name of left in west or in India but all the countries that actually are ruled by left are autocracies.

 

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[MechEng]

14 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Twitter acts based on complaints.  They have banned people from both sides. Did they ban Modi or any other right wing leader from the world?  I have complained about so many violent posts. They have promptly removed. 

 

https://www.thequint.com/news/politics/sikh-banned-social-media-siyasat-punjab-operation-bluestar-ghallughara-facebook-instagram

 

https://www.news18.com/news/tech/facebook-temporarily-banned-a-resignmodi-hashtag-says-it-was-a-mistake-3687962.html

 

 

 

 

They haven't banned Veena Malik and that Pakistani CNN journalist who openly called out for genocide of Jews.

Just deleted their posts.

[ravishingravi]

 

 

It’s pretty clear where things are going. But I would still say. Give them a long rope. 

[coffee_rules]

It all started with the tags of manipulated media by Twitter based on some taklaZoobear fact checks. They can’t pick sides like they did against Trump (quite legit in his case) . A private company that bends down to US laws can’t dictate terms in a foreign company. A holes need to be kicked out. Treating everybody else like a colonial power

[mishra]

9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

It all started with the tags of manipulated media by Twitter based on some taklaZoobear fact checks. They can’t pick sides like they did against Trump (quite legit in his case) . A private company that bends down to US laws can’t dictate terms in a foreign company. A holes need to be kicked out. Treating everybody else like a colonial power

Any pvt company can not manufacture its own  rules and dictate government. This is very basic concept twitter has to understand.

[ravishingravi]

Long term game is to push the govt for enforcing the ban and then further jump on the bandwagon of end of democracy in India. 

 

The narrative is being framed nicely globally. Question is will it have an impact internally. Left liberal cabal wants to project India as an autocracy with regressive govt that is suppressing minorities. 

 

Twitter is blackmailing that it will ramp up this agenda.  

[Yoda-esque]

 

 

It’s pretty clear where things are going. But I would still say. Give them a long rope. 

Preparing the grounds is what I would say.Twitter and it's likes will always be condescending to emerging economies.

 

It needs to comply or go.

 

All's this end of democracy BS rhetoric will not stop anyways.

 

[mishra]

23 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

Long term game is to push the govt for enforcing the ban and then further jump on the bandwagon of end of democracy in India. 

 

The narrative is being framed nicely globally. Question is will it have an impact internally. Left liberal cabal wants to project India as an autocracy with regressive govt that is suppressing minorities. 

 

Twitter is blackmailing that it will ramp up this agenda.  

Twitter can squirm as much as it likes. If India needs US, US needs India even more and it can not get US admin to have a word with Indian administration. We aren’t Pakistan that US citizens or US companies can do whatever they want. 
India has better administrative system and administrators. They will legally bind twitter in such a way that it can not do another foreign NGO or Human Rights org working in country to be destabilising tool to foreign Govmnts. Currently twitter is essentially filling shoes of these foreign NGOs and alleged HumanRights org. It just need to be banned or bolted by law. Govmnt is very clear on it