QuarantineTormentino Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Has played only 12 t20is, taken 11 wickets at an economy of almost 10. Compare that with Khaleel who has taken 13 wickets in 14 matches at an economy of less than 9 and also provides a left arm seaming option Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Indwin Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, QuarantineTormentino said: Has played only 12 t20is, taken 11 wickets at an economy of almost 10. Compare that with Khaleel who has taken 13 wickets in 14 matches at an economy of less than 9 and also provides a left arm seaming option According to self proclaimed experts in ICF he bowls 137 to 145kph all day in tests so he must be included in t20 squad QuarantineTormentino 1 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Oh boy ... we now have a thread advocating including of Khalil over Shami Lord 1 Link to comment
rageaddict Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 An overall career economy of around 10, well that's a big Red. QuarantineTormentino 1 Link to comment
QuarantineTormentino Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: Oh boy ... we now have a thread advocating including of Khalil over Shami Not advocating anything, I’m just putting Shami’s t20 career in perspective. If he was picked for “experience” doesn’t make any sense whatsoever lmao Indwin 1 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, QuarantineTormentino said: Not advocating anything, I’m just putting Shami’s t20 career in perspective. If he was picked for “experience” doesn’t make any sense whatsoever lmao Given his IPL performance i cant see how he would not have been in Indian team Lord 1 Link to comment
kohli Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Our odi & t20 bowling is useless. express bowling 1 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, kohli said: Our odi & t20 bowling is useless. You are claiming our bowling is useless. Other thread people are discussing our useless batting. Cricket is thriving in India thanks to our fielding. kohli and Lord 2 Link to comment
Lord Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, QuarantineTormentino said: Not advocating anything, I’m just putting Shami’s t20 career in perspective. If he was picked for “experience” doesn’t make any sense whatsoever lmao No. He's picked because of last 2 IPL performance in same conditions. Only one who takes new ball wickets with some consistency. jf1gp_1, Chakdephatte and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
Dery Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 All our t20 bowlers are useless Lord 1 Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Lord said: No. He's picked because of last 2 IPL performance in same conditions. Only one who takes new ball wickets with some consistency. He actually takes most wickets at death. In all UAE matches, he has 14 wickets at death. Only Rabada has more. He is economical in powerplay but doesn't take many wickets. D. Chahar, Arshadeep, and to a lesser extent Bumrah, were bowlers to take wickets in powerplay this season, even these two were moderately successful. Edited October 30, 2021 by Chakdephatte Link to comment
Lord Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said: He actually takes most wickets at death. In all UAE matches, he has 14 wickets at death. Only Rabada has more. He is economical in powerplay but doesn't take many wickets. D. Chahar, and to a lesser extent Bumrah, were bowlers to take wickets in powerplay this season, even these two were moderately successful. Bumrah doesn't even open bowling anymore regularly.His wickets are middle overs. D Chahar is great in certain conditions but UAE doesnt suit him. Hes much better in India. yeah batsmen played him out but mostly looked better with new ball Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Indwin said: According to self proclaimed experts in ICF he bowls 137 to 145kph all day in tests so he must be included in t20 squad Mashallah Edited October 30, 2021 by Suhaan Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Chetan Sharma gave the reason why they selected Shami and others. He said, " We selected our 3 main strike bowlers ". It seems that the overall career of the pacers, across formats, was the criterion for selection, based on my interpretation of this statement. Others can obviously have different interprètations of this statement. Mosher 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: Given his IPL performance i cant see how he would not have been in Indian team Even his IPL record is nothing great. Always known to go for runs. Struggles at death. Shami can be good on quicker pitches but he lacks variations for these conditions. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: Chetan Sharma gave the reason why they selected Shami and others. He said, " We selected our 3 main strike bowlers ". It seems that the overall career of the pacers, across formats, was the criterion for selection, based on my interpretation of this statement. Others can obviously have different interprètations of this statement. Problem is not differentiating between formats and skills set required for them. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 55 minutes ago, Dery said: All our t20 bowlers are useless Nah. Pakistani bowlers are doing well. Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Even his IPL record is nothing great. Always known to go for runs. Struggles at death. Shami can be good on quicker pitches but he lacks variations for these conditions. I felt he bowled well in during ipl held in uae Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: Cricket is thriving in India thanks to our fielding. Only test cricket is thriving in India in the last 6 years, thanks to our fantastic test match bowling. Haven't won a T20 World Cup in the last 14 years, although 5 of them took place in this period. No ICC LOI trophies in the last 8 years, although 5 of them took place in this period. With only 8 good teams in T20Is and 6 good teams in ODIs ... and the amount of resources that we have in cricket these days ... we should be absolutely dominating white ball cricket too. Edited October 30, 2021 by express bowling Lord and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Clarke Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Selectors don't distinguish well between formats. Additionally, IPL isn't the complete yardstick, as visible in SL tour. I'm also not convinced with Siraj/Thakur in this format, their international T20 ERs are aweful. Bhuvi is lazy & mostly bowls low energy cutters & slower balls. Jaddu never was a T20 cricketer. In short, I'm expecting a repeat of 2007, although odi & not T20 WC performance. Link to comment
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