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46 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Matlab kuch bhi. Britishers did nothing of that sort. Although, there were multiple kingdoms, common people had free access to sacred places for pilgrimage etc, there was cultural oneness where stories of Ramayana and Mahabharata provided a sense of the underlying rashtra for culture, people identified with the chars and many names were given to their progeny to propagate the cultural identity. When kings acquired new lands, they didn’t force their language and religious ideology on to common people, that was the Dharma of those times. You have been fed with comme Marxist history of the white saviors. They siphoned off 35 trillion stifling pounds from India and left the country under poverty 

What you wrote is partially right but all that 35 trillion was mostly looted from inept brutal Kings & common mass anyways pretty much quite poor... Even  though after a while British extracted Taxes at quite a higher rate that it was more miserable than Mughal rule...  Or even Tughlaqs in that aspect.  That led to famines.  But these are documented ones.  We do know things were dog sh** under Mughals & Marathas for East Indians/Bengalis. 

Situation around North & North west India was quite great as devastating frequent invasions stopped (I'll tell you those were frequent & Afghans were relentless)  & people took a sigh of relief. Afghan stronghold was broken in North West & Kashmir. Major reason of the failure of 1857 was lack of public support in North & south India...  South even didn't even participate to a greater degree.  No major uprising took place there.  Travancore was even allied with British.  South was dope. 

 

Marxist history has its shades in various places in our modern history but 1857 was not it.  People rejected it & it was a massive f*** off to feudal system & monarchy. 

 

 

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People can have same gods like Shiva or same holy books like Ramayana , but EOD they cannot be the same, the culture varies.  If this is so easy, then Europe can easily be a single country now, almost every country there follows the same religion.

 

Language is a much bigger unifying factor than Religion any day. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, dial_100 said:

 

 

 


Rahul Shivshankar is pretty good now, compared to the cacophony of OrKnob. Don’t care if he is called godi  media, calls spade a spade without mincing words or fear of rejection from liberal junta. What a passionate speech by GenBakshi Saab :hatsoff:

 

 

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16 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:


Rahul Shivshankar is pretty good now, compared to the cacophony of OrKnob. Don’t care if he is called godi  media, calls spade a spade without mincing words or fear of rejection from liberal junta. What a passionate speech by GenBakshi Saab :hatsoff:

 

 

Tri color has been hosted multiple times on Lal Chowk earlier as it should be.  Though great to see GOI doing something to counter ISPR propaganda. 

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On 1/27/2022 at 12:25 AM, coffee_rules said:

Guntur it is.

It has a circle named after… wait for it…

Mohd Ali Jinnah!!!

 

 

 

Why is there a roundabout called Mohammad Ali Jinnah in India? And in Guntur of all places? 

And why was this bloke manhandled in such a way?

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3 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said:

 

Why is there a roundabout called Mohammad Ali Jinnah? In Guntur of all places? 

And why was this bloke manhandled in such a way?

 

Police had put fence in that area and guy tried to break it forcibly.

 

What would police do?

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1. Place was named after MA Jinnah in early 1940s.

2. When BJP had alliance with TDP, they never renamed it. 

3. All of a sudden, groups looking to create tesion came up with idea of asking for renaming it, else it to be demolished. 

4. Group threatened of violence if flag is flag is not hoisted on tower on 26th Jan. 

5. Police fenced the area after threat of violence. 

6. Men tried to go there forcibly. Police detained them and later let them go. 

7. Perfect material for twitter crowd to build narrative of mini-Pakistan, anti-Hindu CM, and unpatriotic people. 

8. Shared content 1 - person arrested. Although person was not arrested. 

9. Shared content 2 - person arrested/roughed up for shouting bharat mata ki jai and unfurling flag. No they were not detained for that. 

10. Drawing parallels with Kashmir. 

11. Calling it minority appeasement. 

 

Classic strategy. 

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1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

1. Place was named after MA Jinnah in early 1940s.

2. When BJP had alliance with TDP, they never renamed it. 

3. All of a sudden, groups looking to create tesion came up with idea of asking for renaming it, else it to be demolished. 

4. Group threatened of violence if flag is flag is not hoisted on tower on 26th Jan. 

5. Police fenced the area after threat of violence. 

6. Men tried to go there forcibly. Police detained them and later let them go. 

7. Perfect material for twitter crowd to build narrative of mini-Pakistan, anti-Hindu CM, and unpatriotic people. 

8. Shared content 1 - person arrested. Although person was not arrested. 

9. Shared content 2 - person arrested/roughed up for shouting bharat mata ki jai and unfurling flag. No they were not detained for that. 

10. Drawing parallels with Kashmir. 

11. Calling it minority appeasement. 

 

Classic strategy. 

 

Why shouldn't it be renamed? If not demolished altogether?

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9 hours ago, coffee_rules said:


Blue ticks like Kanchan and Anand Ranganathan are tweeting. Why do you call it fake news? 
 

Why are you bringing a BJP angle here?
 

 

 

Anand Rangathan is lying. Other blue ticks have not mentioned arrest.

 

I am not bringing BJP angle. BJP has demanded renaming the tower when they themselves didn't do it.

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53 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

 

Anand Rangathan is lying. Other blue ticks have not mentioned arrest.

 

I am not bringing BJP angle. BJP has demanded renaming the tower when they themselves didn't do it.

That's classic BJP..   They claim to be so much nationalistic but is just another  poor man's Khangress. 

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