Trichromatic Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1990-2012 73 128 10 6007 241* 50.90 18 28 9 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif SM Gavaskar (INDIA) 1971-1986 46 81 6 3868 221 51.57 15 15 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif R Dravid (INDIA) 1996-2012 63 117 15 5420 233 53.13 13 28 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif V Kohli (INDIA) 2011-2021 47 86 1 3662 200 43.08 12 14 8 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Javed Miandad (PAK) 1976-1993 48 78 6 3340 271 46.38 9 15 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Asif Iqbal (PAK) 1964-1979 31 54 4 1977 175 39.54 8 3 6 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Inzamam-ul-Haq (PAK) 1992-2007 44 78 7 3137 148 44.18 8 18 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif VVS Laxman (INDIA) 1997-2012 57 102 11 3856 178 42.37 7 25 7 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Mohammad Yousuf (PAK) 1998-2010 33 62 2 2647 203 44.11 7 11 7 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif KC Sangakkara (SL) 2000-2015 34 66 4 2764 203 44.58 7 16 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif M Azharuddin (INDIA) 1985-1999 38 57 3 1907 192 35.31 6 6 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif AM Rahane (INDIA) 2013-2021 41 74 8 2679 147 40.59 6 14 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Younis Khan (PAK) 2000-2017 38 71 3 2662 218 39.14 6 11 7 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Azhar Ali (PAK) 2010-2021 39 76 4 2379 205* 33.04 5 11 7 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif SC Ganguly (INDIA) 1996-2008 41 71 6 2711 144 41.70 5 15 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Ijaz Ahmed (PAK) 1987-2001 24 40 2 1411 141 37.13 5 6 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif DPMD Jayawardene (SL) 1998-2014 35 67 1 2162 141 32.75 5 7 7 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Majid Khan (PAK) 1967-1982 30 55 2 2106 167 39.73 5 9 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Mushtaq Mohammad (PAK) 1962-1979 32 60 3 2079 201 36.47 5 11 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif CA Pujara (INDIA) 2010-2021 42 77 2 2436 193 32.48 5 12 6 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif KL Rahul (INDIA) 2014-2021 22 39 1 1283 158 33.76 5 2 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif V Sehwag (INDIA) 2001-2012 33 61 0 2145 195 35.16 5 7 8 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif RJ Shastri (INDIA) 1981-1992 30 48 6 1407 206 33.50 5 1 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif M Amarnath (INDIA) 1976-1986 24 41 1 1936 138 48.40 4 12 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif MS Atapattu (SL) 1997-2007 21 42 4 1356 185 35.68 4 6 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif PA de Silva (SL) 1984-2002 25 46 0 1818 267 39.52 4 7 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif AP Gurusinha (SL) 1989-1996 11 20 0 878 143 43.90 4 2 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Hanif Mohammad (PAK) 1954-1967 21 40 2 1605 337 42.23 4 5 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Saeed Anwar (PAK) 1994-2001 15 28 0 1205 176 43.03 4 6 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Saleem Malik (PAK) 1983-1996 33 51 7 2001 165 45.47 4 12 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Tamim Iqbal (BAN) 2008-2019 18 35 0 1434 128 40.97 4 9 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif PR Umrigar (INDIA) 1952-1962 18 35 2 1278 172* 38.72 4 7 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif DB Vengsarkar (INDIA) 1976-1992 48 82 6 2463 157 32.40 4 13 8 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Zaheer Abbas (PAK) 1971-1985 34 61 1 2305 274 38.41 4 13 8 Forward Defence 1
Trichromatic Posted December 26, 2021 Author Posted December 26, 2021 By openers Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SM Gavaskar (INDIA) 1971-1986 45 81 6 3868 221 51.57 15 15 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif KL Rahul (INDIA) 2015-2021 20 34 1 1246 158 37.75 5 2 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif MS Atapattu (SL) 1998-2007 19 37 4 1286 185 38.96 4 6 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Saeed Anwar (PAK) 1994-2001 15 28 0 1205 176 43.03 4 6 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif V Sehwag (INDIA) 2002-2012 31 56 0 1931 195 34.48 4 7 8 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Tamim Iqbal (BAN) 2008-2019 18 34 0 1395 128 41.02 4 9 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Azhar Ali (PAK) 2013-2019 13 25 2 989 205* 43.00 3 4 0 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Majid Khan (PAK) 1974-1979 14 27 2 1227 167 49.08 3 5 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif MH Mankad (INDIA) 1946-1953 11 19 0 659 184 34.68 3 2 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Mohsin Khan (PAK) 1979-1985 14 25 1 932 200 38.83 3 0 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Sadiq Mohammad (PAK) 1971-1978 22 40 0 1533 166 38.32 3 7 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif RJ Shastri (INDIA) 1982-1992 11 18 0 761 206 42.27 3 1 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif TM Dilshan (SL) 2011-2013 8 15 0 607 193 40.46 2 2 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif R Dravid (INDIA) 1997-2011 8 13 2 453 146* 41.18 2 1 0 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif G Gambhir (INDIA) 2009-2014 13 25 1 960 167 40.00 2 5 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif W Jaffer (INDIA) 2002-2008 18 34 0 1006 212 29.58 2 7 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif ST Jayasuriya (SL) 1996-2007 23 43 3 1207 213 30.17 2 5 6 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif FDM Karunaratne (SL) 2012-2021 25 50 1 1361 152 27.77 2 7 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif VM Merchant (INDIA) 1936-1946 6 11 0 527 128 47.90 2 2 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Salman Butt (PAK) 2004-2010 15 30 0 929 108 30.96 2 5 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif NS Sidhu (INDIA) 1989-1999 18 30 1 820 201 28.27 2 2 6 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Taufeeq Umar (PAK) 2002-2011 9 17 1 676 135 42.25 2 3 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif M Vijay (INDIA) 2010-2018 26 49 0 1364 146 27.83 2 7 6
zen Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) Would like to see innings/100 (or 100s/innings but the number would be in decimals) ratio (say among those with 5 100s or more) … the more test a good batsman plays, the more 100 he will have (almost pointless to be listing most runs, wkts, 100, 5-er, … #s) Edited December 26, 2021 by zen
Trichromatic Posted December 26, 2021 Author Posted December 26, 2021 KL Rahul is easily better opener than Gambhir and Sehwag outside Asia.
Trichromatic Posted December 26, 2021 Author Posted December 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, zen said: Would like to see innings/100 (or 100s/innings but the number would be in decimals) ratio (say among those with 5 100s or more) … the more test a good batsman plays, the more 100 he will have (almost pointless to be listing most runs, wkts, 100, 5-er, … #s) Pointless argument. Cricket is not a linear game. More games doesn't guarantee 100s linearly all the time. Kohli had not scored century for 2 years and might not get one for next 2 years.
zen Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Pointless argument. Cricket is not a linear game. More games doesn't guarantee 100s linearly all the time. Kohli had not scored century for 2 years and might not get one for next 2 years. You are posting career stats … inngs/100 is similar to averages (which is runs/completed innings)
Vijy Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, zen said: You are posting career stats … inngs/100 is similar to averages (which is runs/completed innings) I think both metrics are good: avgs vs 100s. One can have lots of 100s but low avg if one is a boom-or-bust batsman.
Forward Defence Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 55 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1990-2012 73 128 10 6007 241* 50.90 18 28 9 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif SM Gavaskar (INDIA) 1971-1986 46 81 6 3868 221 51.57 15 15 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif R Dravid (INDIA) 1996-2012 63 117 15 5420 233 53.13 13 28 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif V Kohli (INDIA) 2011-2021 47 86 1 3662 200 43.08 12 14 8 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Javed Miandad (PAK) 1976-1993 48 78 6 3340 271 46.38 9 15 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Asif Iqbal (PAK) 1964-1979 31 54 4 1977 175 39.54 8 3 6 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Inzamam-ul-Haq (PAK) 1992-2007 44 78 7 3137 148 44.18 8 18 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif VVS Laxman (INDIA) 1997-2012 57 102 11 3856 178 42.37 7 25 7 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Mohammad Yousuf (PAK) 1998-2010 33 62 2 2647 203 44.11 7 11 7 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif KC Sangakkara (SL) 2000-2015 34 66 4 2764 203 44.58 7 16 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif M Azharuddin (INDIA) 1985-1999 38 57 3 1907 192 35.31 6 6 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif AM Rahane (INDIA) 2013-2021 41 74 8 2679 147 40.59 6 14 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Younis Khan (PAK) 2000-2017 38 71 3 2662 218 39.14 6 11 7 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Azhar Ali (PAK) 2010-2021 39 76 4 2379 205* 33.04 5 11 7 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif SC Ganguly (INDIA) 1996-2008 41 71 6 2711 144 41.70 5 15 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Ijaz Ahmed (PAK) 1987-2001 24 40 2 1411 141 37.13 5 6 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif DPMD Jayawardene (SL) 1998-2014 35 67 1 2162 141 32.75 5 7 7 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Majid Khan (PAK) 1967-1982 30 55 2 2106 167 39.73 5 9 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Mushtaq Mohammad (PAK) 1962-1979 32 60 3 2079 201 36.47 5 11 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif CA Pujara (INDIA) 2010-2021 42 77 2 2436 193 32.48 5 12 6 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif KL Rahul (INDIA) 2014-2021 22 39 1 1283 158 33.76 5 2 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif V Sehwag (INDIA) 2001-2012 33 61 0 2145 195 35.16 5 7 8 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif RJ Shastri (INDIA) 1981-1992 30 48 6 1407 206 33.50 5 1 4 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif M Amarnath (INDIA) 1976-1986 24 41 1 1936 138 48.40 4 12 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif MS Atapattu (SL) 1997-2007 21 42 4 1356 185 35.68 4 6 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif PA de Silva (SL) 1984-2002 25 46 0 1818 267 39.52 4 7 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif AP Gurusinha (SL) 1989-1996 11 20 0 878 143 43.90 4 2 1 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Hanif Mohammad (PAK) 1954-1967 21 40 2 1605 337 42.23 4 5 3 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Saeed Anwar (PAK) 1994-2001 15 28 0 1205 176 43.03 4 6 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Saleem Malik (PAK) 1983-1996 33 51 7 2001 165 45.47 4 12 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Tamim Iqbal (BAN) 2008-2019 18 35 0 1434 128 40.97 4 9 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif PR Umrigar (INDIA) 1952-1962 18 35 2 1278 172* 38.72 4 7 2 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif DB Vengsarkar (INDIA) 1976-1992 48 82 6 2463 157 32.40 4 13 8 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif Zaheer Abbas (PAK) 1971-1985 34 61 1 2305 274 38.41 4 13 8 Asif Iqbal's name is sort of a surprise. The guy batted at no 6 which makes this a special achievement
Majestic Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: KL Rahul is easily better opener than Gambhir and Sehwag outside Asia. and Rohit and Vijay also. Best Indian test openers outside Asia :- Gavaskar Daylight1 Daylight2 KL Rahul Sehwag
rtmohanlal Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 not at all surprising to see the lowest average of them all .Only surprise is that this useless hack is still playing for India which boasts of the largest talent pool by far
First class Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 Don;t care about stats , but here are my top five Asian batsmen in SEAN 1-Gavaskar 2-Majid Khan 3-Tendulkar 4-Hanif Mohhamd 5-Jimmy Amarnath
Forward Defence Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 The list is also a fair indication of who the greatest Asian batsmen are. Sachin, Gavaskar and Dravid are the best without doubt.
zen Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Vijy said: I think both metrics are good: avgs vs 100s. One can have lots of 100s but low avg if one is a boom-or-bust batsman. Once a minimum criteria is identified than one should go with averages, which includes batting averages, bowling averages, strike rates, innings/100, innings/5-ers, and so on, along with the quality of opposition, if you are doing such an analysis ... A good player will do well on such metrics Kapil Dev has 434 wkts, 23 5-ers Malcolm Marshall has 376 wkts, 22 5-ers A thread where bowlers are ranked on # of 5-ers and/or wkts would pointless much like this one, where anyone can get that info from cricinfo ... IMO, most analysis done by people in subcon are pointless as they are yet to grasp the nuances of the sports (and a blind gets led by the blind) Edited December 26, 2021 by zen
Vijy Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 Just now, zen said: Once a minimum criteria is identified than one should go with averages, which includes batting averages, bowling averages, strike rates, innings/100 (if you are doing such an analysis), innings/5-ers, and so on, along with the quality of opposition, if you are doing such an analysis ... A good player will do well on such metrics Kapil Dev has 434 wkts, 23 5-ers Malcolm Marshall has 376 wkts, 22 5-ers A thread where bowlers are ranked on # of 5-ers would pointless much like this one, where anyone can get that info from cricinfo ... IMO, most analysis done by people in subcon are pointless as they are yet to grasp the nuances of the sports (and a blind gets led by the blind) cricket has never fully appreciated the value of stats. not like some 'murican sports.
zen Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vijy said: cricket has never fully appreciated the value of stats. not like some 'murican sports. I agree that stats are not everything but that would be a different discussion as here, the the discussion stems from stats (so at least take the time to do an analysis, take the next step, which is what I am suggesting. Posting cricinfo #s on most runs, wkts, 100s, and 5-ers is not an analysis) Edited December 26, 2021 by zen
raki05 Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 Lol ijaj Ahmad has more centuries overseas than best batsmen since 90. Even KL who get bashed always here had 6 centuries overseas than useless Gujara. vvvslaxman 1
vvvslaxman Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Trichromatic said: KL Rahul is easily better opener than Gambhir and Sehwag outside Asia. Gauti was a bit more consistent. Only towards the end of his career he didn't do well. Problem with KL Rahul has always been inconsistency. Either boom or bust. 27 innings 11 single digits in SENA. Even in the England series he started well 84,26,129. Then he followed it up with 5,0,8. He gotta take his game to next level. raki05 1
Adamant Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, zen said: ... IMO, most analysis done by people in subcon are pointless as they are yet to grasp the nuances of the sports (and a blind gets led by the blind) You picked Rashid khan in an all time test eleven. So the above line describes you in the best possible manner. raki05, AuxiliA, Norman and 1 other 4
Vijy Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 Just now, vvvslaxman said: Gauti was a bit more consistent. Only towards the end of his career he didn't do well. Problem with KL Rahul has always been inconsistency. Either boom or bust. 27 innings 11 single digits in SENA. Even in the England series he started well 84,26,129. Then he followed it up with 5,0,8. He gotta take his game to next level. yes, he is inherently a boom-or-bust player. let's hope he corrects it in the few yrs left in his career.
zen Posted December 26, 2021 Posted December 26, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Adamant said: You picked Rashid khan in an all time test eleven. So the above line describes you in the best possible manner. AT11 ... Good to know that you thought that I picked an AT11 (In your imagination/deduction, I must have also said that Rashid Khan is a better bowler than Warne) Which is why I don't play bugle in front from buffaloes like you You do not have it in you to understand or discuss beyond certain points Edited December 26, 2021 by zen Trichromatic 1
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