vvvslaxman Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 https://www.wionews.com/sports/virat-kohli-was-unhappy-with-anil-kumble-for-not-standing-up-for-players-claims-former-bcci-official-450649 Anil Kumble's sacking as the head coach of the Indian cricket team in 2017 remains one of the most controversial sagas in Indian cricket. Kumble was removed as the head coach of the team following India's defeat in the final of the ICC Champions Trophy 2017 against Pakistan. Kumble was asked to leave just one year after being appointed as the head coach of the team. At the time several reports had cited differences between Kohli and Kumble as the major reason behind his sacking as head coach. The captain and head coach were reportedly not on the same page which led to the controversial sacking. A former BCCI official has now lifted the lid on the entire saga. Former BCCI administrator Ratnakar Shetty, who was working with the board in 2017, has opened up on the Kohli-Kumble episode in his new book 'On Board: Test.Trial.Triumph. My years in BCCI'. Shetty revealed Kohli and Kumble were not on the same wavelength and the captain had an upper hand which led to the legendary spinner's sacking from the head coach post. “The events leading up to the resignation of Anil Kumble as coach of the men’s team after the ICC Champions Trophy final in June 2017 showcased the murkiness that had steadily crept into the corridors of the Cricket Centre," Shetty has written in his book, as per the Indian Express. “It was obvious that some people did not want Anil to continue as coach. The captain and coach did not appear to be on the same wavelength and it seemed that the captain had the upper hand," the former BCCI administrator further elaborated. Opening up on the reason behind Kumble's sacking and his differences with Kohli, Shetty revealed Kohli felt Kumble was 'not standing up for the players' in the team and was 'creating a tense atmosphere in the dressing room. Kumble was replaced by Ravi Shastri as the head coach after India's loss in the Champions Trophy 2017 final. "I learnt later about a meeting that took place in London before the final of the Champions Trophy, which we lost to Pakistan. This meeting was attended by Virat, Anil, Johri, Amitabh Choudhary and Dr Sridhar. Apparently, Virat was not happy with Anil ‘for not standing up for the players and creating a tense atmosphere in the dressing room’, among other things," revealed Shetty in his book. Kohli and Shastri enjoyed a formidable partnership as coach and captain and took India to unprecedented success in Test cricket. India registered a memorable maiden series win in Australia and dominated at home and overseas in the longest format. However, the team failed to win a major ICC trophy under Shastri. While Shastri left the India head coach post after the end of his contract last year, Kohli is also no more the captain of the Indian team in any format of the game at present.
vvvslaxman Posted February 5, 2022 Author Posted February 5, 2022 More "books" will be coming out with more "details" :)
SRT100 Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 Im waiting for Ashwin's book on Kohli's captaincy. That will be a best seller. vvvslaxman, AuxiliA, Swag and 3 others 1 1 4
Adamant Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 Never appoint a 90s cricketer as a coach they won nothing and didn't know how a trophy looks like. Compare that to players who have won Ct, World Cup, under 19 Wc etc. They will always bring negative vibes. mancalledsting 1
Adamant Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, SRT100 said: Im waiting for Ashwin's book on Kohli's captaincy. That will be a best seller. He will say that I love Kohli coz he picked me even when I averaged 55 across three tests in SA after I gave an interview where i came across as Richard Feynman of cricket who has figured out everything and is going to blow over batsman in SouthAfrica.
Jay Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Adamant said: He will say that I love Kohli coz he picked me even when I averaged 55 across three tests in SA after I gave an interview where i came across as Richard Feynman of cricket who has figured out everything and is going to blow over batsman in SouthAfrica. agreed. that chewtiya single handedly cost us wins in s.africa with his innocuous pressure releasing bowling. umesh too for a honourable mention although umesh has improved alot in england off late. However, he was clearly not fully fit yet we still picked him. Adamant 1
Lord Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, Adamant said: Never appoint a 90s cricketer as a coach they won nothing and didn't know how a trophy looks like. Compare that to players who have won Ct, World Cup, under 19 Wc etc. They will always bring negative vibes. so that includes Dravid too? Shastri also played in early 90s. Piyush Chawla has won WT20 2007 and WC 2011. Looking forward to his coaching stint in future Laaloo, Norman, Stan AF and 3 others 1 5
Adamant Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lord said: so that includes Dravid too? Shastri also played in early 90s. Piyush Chawla has won WT20 2007 and WC 2011. Looking forward to his coaching stint in future By 90s I mean players who majorly played in the 90s. They never won tests overseas, never won a single cup etc. Ravi Shastri started in 80s, and won us a World series with his performance. Also he is amongst the rare breed of Indian players who never backed down from confronting against ENA players just to maintain a gentlemanly attitude.
SRT100 Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Lord said: so that includes Dravid too? Shastri also played in early 90s. Piyush Chawla has won WT20 2007 and WC 2011. Looking forward to his coaching stint in future Shastri won the World Championship Tournament in Australia and also player of that series too. Adamant 1
Adamant Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 One thing which Dravid lacks is that in your face attitude but maybe that gels well with Rohit, we will have to see how it goes. The previous TM and captain took us to new heights in test matches winning 5 consecutive maces, let's see what this TM achieves. I would love it if they win us some loi trophies but not at the cost of losing our superiority in tests. The previous TM started when Indian was number 6 or 7 in tests and took us t9 number one, this TM has to start with number three, and that too with only three points separating us from fake number one (the aussies), their task is easier in a way but then this TM has to start with new player coz the old reliable Pujara is done and Rahane's fraud has been caught.
Suhaan Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lord said: Piyush Chawla has won WT20 2007 and WC 2011. Looking forward to his coaching stint in future Coaching is altogether different but mindset matters ,most 90s/80s cricketers are still living either in 90s or 2000s We see that in their comments on daily basis,in contrast some of the 2000s cricketers rather look more in touch with modern needs of cricket,i don't have to name them to convince people here I seriously don't think we need guys who believe too much in pragmatism/process rather than results Process which they talk about are old lame methods of 90s,i really liked Gregs tenure where he used to shuffle the lineup with Raina,Pathan,Dhoni, Yuvraj He and his methods looked ahead of his time Norman 1
Lord Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Coaching is altogether different but mindset matters ,most 90s/80s cricketers are still living either in 90s or 2000s We see that in their comments on daily basis,in contrast some of the 2000s cricketers rather look more in touch with modern needs of cricket,i don't have to name them to convince people here I seriously don't think we need guys who believe too much in pragmatism/process rather than results Process which they talk about are old lame methods of 90s,i really liked Gregs tenure where he used to shuffle the lineup with Raina,Pathan,Dhoni, Yuvraj He and his methods looked ahead of his time Greg was a wonderful coach which showed in 2007 WC. The process talks started with Dhoni and parroted by Kohli,Rahul,everyone. Nothing to do with 80s/90s. You don't need to be recently retired to be in touch with modern cricket.
Lord Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Adamant said: By 90s I mean players who majorly played in the 90s. They never won tests overseas, never won a single cup etc. Ravi Shastri started in 80s, and won us a World series with his performance. Also he is amongst the rare breed of Indian players who never backed down from confronting against ENA players just to maintain a gentlemanly attitude. Our biggest success came under Kirsten who never won a big trophy either I can agree with not having a certain type of coach,but to paint entire generation the same way is not fair.Ganguly and Dravid are both 90s but completely different.
Adamant Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Lord said: Piyush Chawla has won WT20 2007 and WC 2011. Looking forward to his coaching stint in future If Piyush Chawla has proper coaching credentials than why not? You don’t need to be bradman to coach a team. The problem is not just winning trophies or away tests it's the attitude which these guys carry.
Adamant Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord said: Our biggest success came under Kirsten who never won a big trophy either I can agree with not having a certain type of coach,but to paint entire generation the same way is not fair.Ganguly and Dravid are both 90s but completely different. As I said in my previous post I was talking about some players who played a majority of their career in 90s and and also about their attitude. Ganguly is cut from a different cloth, once he took over in the noughties (2000s) that's when the attitude changed.
Lord Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Adamant said: If Piyush Chawla has proper coaching credentials than why not? You don’t need to be bradman to coach a team. The problem is not just winning trophies or away tests it's the attitude which these guys carry. Can you be specific? What's wrong with their attitude? the away Test wins actually started under Ganguly,another 90s guy. SRT100 1
Suhaan Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lord said: You don't need to be recently retired to be in touch with modern crick Yes, absolutely But there is a clear pattern You cannot think of Gavaskar advocating going bezerk in pp overs but a BMac will always endorse such game plan It was a general thought ,i know it all comes down to quality of players available and i do believe we have those guys/youngsters to fit into those demands but it comes with a risk, risk of loosing wickets,coaches have to instill confidence in newcomers and not to worry about their place for a longer period of time There are lot of things that are going into modern day loi cricket
Lord Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Suhaan said: Yes, absolutely But there is a clear pattern You cannot think of Gavaskar advocating going bezerk in pp overs but a BMac will always endorse such game plan It was a general thought ,i know it all comes down to quality of players available and i do believe we have those guys/youngsters to fit into those demands but it comes with a risk, risk of loosing wickets,coaches have to instill confidence in newcomers and not to worry about their place for a longer period of time There are lot of things that are going into modern day loi cricket that's because of type of players they were rather than being old/new.Kris Srikanth might advocate going big in PP while a Kallis might not.
Serpico Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Adamant said: The previous TM and captain took us to new heights in test matches winning 5 consecutive maces, let's see what this TM achieves. I would love it if they win us some loi trophies but not at the cost of losing our superiority in tests. The previous TM started when Indian was number 6 or 7 in tests and took us t9 number on India won the test mace when kumble was the coach. By the time shastri-kohli started we were already at the top Lord and SRT100 1 1
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