ravishingravi Posted April 30, 2022 Author Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: Likes of Tucker carlson or hannity or Arnab are not the ones I would want promoted in the name of freedom of speech Freedom of speech mean freedom of speech. It's absolute and only constrained by law of the land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BacktoCricaddict Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Now that Musk owns and if he makes the regulations in line with sovereign laws or law of land, it will be free speech as guaranteed by constitution without any intervention / interpretation by third party. Were the pre-Musk Twitter regulations not in line with the sovereign laws of the land? I can't recall anyone being silenced by the government or sent to jail for saying stuff on Twitter. Like I said before, the right to free speech is simply protection from prosecution for saying something. Straight from the US constitution: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. https://daily.jstor.org/is-there-a-first-amendment-right-to-tweet/ The First Amendment of the US Constitution limits the government—not private entities—from restricting free expression. This is why companies like Facebook and Twitter can moderate content—and also why they could suspend then-President Trump’s accounts during his last weeks in office. While many Americans applauded this move as an appropriate response to the violent Capitol insurrection, unexpected critics emerged in corners of the globe where the American version of free speech is considered, well, weird. IOW, as long as there are no legal repercussions, it is not a violation of one's first amendment rights in the US. The Musketeers are reaching here. Edited April 30, 2022 by BacktoCricaddict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted May 1, 2022 Author Share Posted May 1, 2022 12 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Were the pre-Musk Twitter regulations not in line with the sovereign laws of the land? I can't recall anyone being silenced by the government or sent to jail for saying stuff on Twitter. Like I said before, the right to free speech is simply protection from prosecution for saying something. Straight from the US constitution: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. https://daily.jstor.org/is-there-a-first-amendment-right-to-tweet/ The First Amendment of the US Constitution limits the government—not private entities—from restricting free expression. This is why companies like Facebook and Twitter can moderate content—and also why they could suspend then-President Trump’s accounts during his last weeks in office. While many Americans applauded this move as an appropriate response to the violent Capitol insurrection, unexpected critics emerged in corners of the globe where the American version of free speech is considered, well, weird. IOW, as long as there are no legal repercussions, it is not a violation of one's first amendment rights in the US. The Musketeers are reaching here. I think it’s getting jumbled up. I am not talking about government here. My reference is only Twitter regulations. Let me put across my point more simply. Land of US Freedom of Speech - Subject to constitution Land of Twitter in US Freedom of speech - Subject to constitution plus Twitter regulations ie policies defining hate speech / offense with its own opaque algorithm, which it is entitled to have as private entity. Value proposition by Musk for Twitter in US Freedom of speech - Subject to constitution plus an open algorithm. Now whether he delivers on this or not is another matter. But purely on value proposition I don’t see how this doesn’t alter framework for Twitter. And for those who unfiltered right to free speech without an unknown opaque Twitter moderator, I don’t see why they should not look forward to this value proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Chee! Gandi zubaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Always entertaining to dip back into the mollusk pool to catch some fresh hilarity. https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/26/23143148/twitter-shareholder-lawsuit-elon-musk-stock-manipulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Musk withdraws ... is it global economy or something else? Vijy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 12 hours ago, diga said: Musk withdraws ... is it global economy or something else? BOTtled? coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 6:07 AM, diga said: Musk withdraws ... is it global economy or something else? "something" else altogether probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 8:54 AM, BacktoCricaddict said: BOTtled? Elon Musk Bot Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Troll CEO... Quite some behaviour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, diga said: Troll CEO... Quite some behaviour President of USA material if only he was born here Vijy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 On 7/12/2022 at 4:18 PM, coffee_rules said: Elon Musk Bot Twitter to bot or not to bot, that is the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Twitter board should fire Parag & get a dakait or some santabanta for CEO. They can do a better job in doing 24/7/365 dharnas outside Tesla/spacex/starlink offices and extracting compulsory purchase & MSP per twitter share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/10/media/elon-musk-china-taiwan-intl-hnk/index.html Speaks in favor of CCP controlling Taiwan, haan ye laayega free speech revolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Clarke said: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/10/media/elon-musk-china-taiwan-intl-hnk/index.html Speaks in favor of CCP controlling Taiwan, haan ye laayega free speech revolution Hey but it will be more fun. No. Honestly I would want to see China control twitter. It will be better than free speech, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Humanties graduate class reunion raki05 and ravishingravi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Humanties graduate class reunion It's these same people who fall for and spread lies about modern agriculture ("best to just go organic forever!"), energy ("best to just go solar forever!") and vaccines ("best to just go forever"!). Edited October 18, 2022 by BacktoCricaddict ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 Take that mofos diga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Take that mofos Joe the plumber hijacked his account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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