Majestic Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 1.Australia - 8(1987, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2015, 2021, 2006, 2009) 2.West Indies - 5(1975,1979, 2012,2016, 2004) 3.India - 5(1983,2011,2007, 2002,2013) 4.Sri Lanka - 3(1996,2014,2002) 5.Pakistan - 3(1992,2009,2017) 6.England - 2( 2019,2010) 7.New Zealand - 2(2021, 2000) 8.South Africa - 1(1998) In case of equal trophies, priority based on order as World Cup > WTC= WT20 > CT. Edited October 18, 2022 by Majestic
vvvslaxman Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 wow SA. They are much better side than that. A strong ruthless non choking leader was missed. sage 1
zen Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 If talking about ICC WC, CT does not need to be included ... In the 80s, there were special events like 1985 World Series in Aus and 1989 Nehru Cup in Ind. AuxiliA 1
Prabhdeep Singh Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) India could have had 10 trophies if they did not lose the following: 2000 CT (ODI) 2003 WC (ODI) 2014 WC (T20) 2017 CT (ODI) 2021 WTC (TEST) Some of these defeats should have been avoidable. Edited October 18, 2022 by Prabhdeep Singh
coffee_rules Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) B&H World Series in 1985 is literally a WC/ICC event. Add it to India's count. What did Aus win in 2009? Can we add the ICC Test Championship maces we have won since before 2021 to this list? Edited October 18, 2022 by coffee_rules
Prabhdeep Singh Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 New Zealand won their both ICC titles against India, quite shocking really as NZ are chockers also along with SA and India to some extent.
Majestic Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, zen said: If talking about ICC WC, CT does not need to be included ... In the 80s, there were special events like 1985 World Series in Aus and 1989 Nehru Cup in Ind. Tough to consider them. They were just individual events and no subsequent series of that was followed.
zen Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Prabhdeep Singh said: New Zealand won their both ICC titles against India, quite shocking really as NZ are chockers also along with SA and India to some extent. Ind titles have mainly come from beating Pak and SL: 1985 beat Pak 2002 shared w/ SL 2007 beat Pak 2011 beat SL Edited October 18, 2022 by zen
Majestic Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: B&H World Series in 1985 is literally a WC/ICC event. Add it to India's count. What did Aus win in 2009? Can we add the ICC Test Championship maces we have won since before 2021 to this list? Aus won Champions Trophy in 2009. Trophies are different from yearly won Test maces based on ICC rankings.
Norman Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 India, Pakistan and South Africa have under achieved massively. Former two with a huge talent pool and South Africa with that pseudo-Australian quality of producing dozens of world class players should have won much much more.
zen Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Majestic said: Tough to consider them. They were just individual events and no subsequent series of that was followed. Up to you! (on a different thread someone could consider them too) ... I would rate such all major teams marquee events > CT Edited October 18, 2022 by zen
Majestic Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, zen said: Ind titles have mainly come from beating Pak and SL: 1985 beat Pak 2002 beat SL 2007 beat Pak 2011 beat SL 2002 was a shared on between India and SL. 1983- Beat Windies 2013- Beat England
Majestic Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, zen said: Up to you! (someone could start a thread and consider them too) ... I would rate such all major teams marquee events > CT But CT is a tournament which started 22 years ago and it takes place every 4 years. Anyways, you can ignore that and that ranking will still remain the same. Aus > WI > IND > SL = Pak > Eng > NZ.
zen Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Majestic said: 2002 was a shared on between India and SL. 1983- Beat Windies 2013- Beat England Yeah 2002 shared w/ SL
zen Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Majestic said: But CT is a tournament which started 22 years ago and it takes place every 4 years. Anyways, you can ignore that and that ranking will still remain the same. Aus > WI > IND > SL = Pak > Eng > NZ. In the 80s, these marquee events were considered almost as prestigious as world cups ... One was won by Ind, the other by Pak CT is relatively a lower tier tournament though
Laaloo Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, Prabhdeep Singh said: India could have had 10 trophies if they did not lose the following: 2000 CT (ODI) 2003 WC (ODI) 2014 WC (T20) 2017 CT (ODI) 2021 WTC (TEST) Some of these defeats should have been avoidable. We definitely should have won the 2000 CT if it wasn’t for Chris cairns. 2014 WC as well should have won. heck 2017 CT should have won as well but who knows. 2021 WTC at the very least with so much rain it should Have been a draw. Prabhdeep Singh 1
Majestic Posted October 18, 2022 Author Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, zen said: In the 80s, these marquee events were considered almost as prestigious as world cups ... One was won by Ind, the other by Pak CT is relatively a lower tier tournament though How? The love and appreciation we get for 1983 World Cup is completely unmatchable while a lot of casual fans would probably not even know or remember the 1985 World Series win that fondly.
Vk1 Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 no point in counting the champions trophy.. it will never have the aura of WC
AuxiliA Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 WTC F loss hurts the most by far. We deserved to win that, after low key dominating tests for 5 years.
zen Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Majestic said: How? The love and appreciation we get for 1983 World Cup is completely unmatchable while a lot of casual fans would probably not even know or remember the 1985 World Series win that fondly. What has casual fans remembering something or not got to do with the value of events? For e.g. no causal fan would remember WI winning CT in 2004 or SA in 1998 (Ppl still perceive SA has not won any "ICC"). You would need to read on those events to understand their importance. Those were special events celebrating certain anniversaries and where all major teams participated. World Championship of Cricket celebrated 150 years of European settlement in Aus (or something like that) while Nehru Cup celebrated Nehru's 100th birth anniversary (therefore, designed to be unique marquee events)
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