zen Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Buttler laments 'really disappointing day' for England: 'We should let it hurt' "There's no point in saying let's sweep it under the carpet and move on. I think we've got to reflect" There were no excuses offered by the England captain for Wednesday's loss to Ireland. They did not lament the rain, the ground conditions, or the decision to come off with England just five runs behind on DLS with 5.3 overs remaining. "I take full responsibility myself," Buttler said. "To lose wickets like that puts the pressure on. I thought Ireland showed us how to bowl on that wicket. They found movement and created problems. That's just a really disappointing day." England offering no excuses ... The loss can be a welcome wake up call if the team can return to playing at its best ... Difficult to remain unbeaten in a WC so Eng has to remain positive and consider this as getting a bad game out of the way (and there is a pattern of Eng losing to European teams in WCs if I recall reading somewhere, so that is out of the way too unless NED makes it to the knockouts) Link to comment
Vk1 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 rain, cold weather, seam swing bounce - Eng, NZ, SA, AUS conditions covered.. now pitches need to grip and get slow - sub continent covered.. this really is a world cup.. nevada 1 Link to comment
zen Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 Upcoming Eng games: 10/28 at MCG v AUS 11/02 at The Gabba v NZ 11/05 at SCG v Group A winner (likely SL) Add: Potential SF & F A similar situation to 2019 WC where England needed to win 4-5 games in a row, where group games were virtual KOs + the KOs TEAM M W L PT NRR NZ 2 1 0 3 4.450 SL 2 1 1 2 0.450 ENG 2 1 1 2 0.239 IRE 2 1 1 2 -1.169 AUS 2 1 1 2 -1.555 AFG 2 0 1 1 -0.620 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 They aint winning against Aussies (aussies need to improve their NRR so expect them to come even hard at them) NZ game in Gabba will be very interesting since NZ have a better bowling attack and i think it shud give them more edge Facing SL in SCG wont be easy considering they had a hard time against Afghan that to in perth Link to comment
zen Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: They aint winning against Aussies (aussies need to improve their NRR so expect them to come even hard at them) Aus does NOT need to worry about NRR IF it can beat ENG. It would have played NZ, SL, & ENG by that point. It would then be playing IRE and AFG. IF Aus loses to Eng, then various permutations and combinations come into play. Similarly, ENG does not need to worry about NRR if it can win its remaining games. Edited October 27, 2022 by zen Link to comment
Adamant Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I said that they are not going to semis, even before the world cup began. England is one heck of an overrated team in t20s, bowling attack is bad and batsman can't cope with anything but a flat patta. Sgattick10 and Vijy 2 Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Adamant said: I said that they are not going to semis, even before the world cup began. England is one heck of an overrated team in t20s, bowling attack is bad and batsman can't cope with anything but a flat patta. Batsmen are not FTB. But Bairstow injury and lack of experience costed them. Plus the freeloader in Stokes. Bowling I agree. Even Topley wasn't going to do harm. But can't argue with people who say Rabada is better than Bhuvi. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: They aint winning against Aussies (aussies need to improve their NRR so expect them to come even hard at them) NZ game in Gabba will be very interesting since NZ have a better bowling attack and i think it shud give them more edge Facing SL in SCG wont be easy considering they had a hard time against Afghan that to in perth England just beaten Aus in the bilateral series. Link to comment
zen Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 5 hours ago, rkt.india said: England just beaten Aus in the bilateral series. Yeah, Eng won 2-0 but could have been 3-0 if not for a washout. With two power packed line ups heading into a pressure game, this one should be interesting: Buttler - Warner Hales - Finch Malan - Marsh Stokes - Maxwell Brook - Stoinis Moeen - David Livingston - Wade Curren - Agar Woakes - Cummins Wood - Starc Rashid - Hazlewood Link to comment
gattaca Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 10/26/2022 at 1:08 PM, Vk1 said: rain, cold weather, seam swing bounce - Eng, NZ, SA, AUS conditions covered.. now pitches need to grip and get slow - sub continent covered.. this really is a world cup.. All subcontinent teams eliminated except india and Pakistan. India don’t even have spinners. Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 England looked like any other team so far , nothing special about them. Link to comment
gattaca Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, cricketfan28 said: England looked like any other team so far , nothing special about them. This lol they were choking lost 4 wickets for run a ball score. SL had poor field placing should have brought two more fielders in Edited November 5, 2022 by gattaca Link to comment
Vk1 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 hours ago, cricketfan28 said: England looked like any other team so far , nothing special about them. if avg T20 score is 170+ Eng brings their A game.. these <150 pitches are lottery Link to comment
zen Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Vk1 said: if avg T20 score is 170+ Eng brings their A game.. these <150 pitches are lottery SL was playing without any pressure while Eng had qualification on its mind In KOs, all teams are under similar pressure Link to comment
zen Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 Some of these guys fanatically supported (even by using dumb stats) Tuk Tuk Sharma, Kohli, KL, Bhuvi, & Ashwin, and wrote against Eng Link to comment
Vijy Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) On 10/26/2022 at 1:05 PM, zen said: Buttler laments 'really disappointing day' for England: 'We should let it hurt' "There's no point in saying let's sweep it under the carpet and move on. I think we've got to reflect" There were no excuses offered by the England captain for Wednesday's loss to Ireland. They did not lament the rain, the ground conditions, or the decision to come off with England just five runs behind on DLS with 5.3 overs remaining. "I take full responsibility myself," Buttler said. "To lose wickets like that puts the pressure on. I thought Ireland showed us how to bowl on that wicket. They found movement and created problems. That's just a really disappointing day." England offering no excuses ... The loss can be a welcome wake up call if the team can return to playing at its best ... Difficult to remain unbeaten in a WC so Eng has to remain positive and consider this as getting a bad game out of the way (and there is a pattern of Eng losing to European teams in WCs if I recall reading somewhere, so that is out of the way too unless NED makes it to the knockouts) buttler owned up and took responsibility. I still don't like aspects of him (e.g., holiet than thou regd non-striker run-outs), but he has shown much more openness and resolve than King Tuk Tuk (Rohit). Just like King Tut exists in Egypt, we have our own King Tuk in India. Edited November 11, 2022 by Vijy zen 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/10/2022 at 7:01 PM, zen said: Some of these guys fanatically supported (even by using dumb stats) Tuk Tuk Sharma, Kohli, KL, Bhuvi, & Ashwin, and wrote against Eng Tbh, they won crucial tosses against NZ, India and Pak, just like Aus last year. They could lose any of these matches but for the toss. Link to comment
zen Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: Tbh, they won crucial tosses against NZ, India and Pak, just like Aus last year. They could lose any of these matches but for the toss. Ind would have batted first anyways so the toss was a formality (and it lost) Link to comment
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