Is Arshdeep overrated?

[Texan]

He seems to regularly bowl noballs and then gets hit for sixes. He doesn't have the pace of course and also doesn't seem to have any weapons like a good short ball. In swinging conditions, he looks decent in the first few overs, but we have other good swing and seam bowlers like Chahar and Bhuvi. As a T20 specialist bowler, he appears inadequate to me and not consistent.

 

The only part he is consistent with is overstepping. At this level, this should be unacceptable. After the disaster he has with the last game, at least he should have rectified that part. But, alas, he didn't even do that. 

[Lord]

was easily our best bowler in WT20.

 

Still young and time to learn.He's suddenly the senior pacer here and doesnt seem to handle it well so far.

 

No ball problem is an issue but it can't be rectified so easily else no one will bowl no ball.

[zen]

Does not have a higher ceiling & has no ball issues, losing India games where his overs have made the difference ... I hope that guys like Moshin, Tyagi, etc., will replace him soon after the IPL. 

 

 

[Adamant]

Who rates him highly? 

[rkt.india]

conceded 27 in the 20th over. what happened to his death bowling!  that over literally cost us the game.

[Sean Bradley]

He had a great start to his intl career, was easily the best T20 bowler for last year or so, but suddenly losing plot. Must agree that he cost us the game today. This match will define him and shape his future. If he bounces back from this, he will be a force else will fade away in no time. 

Edited January 27, 2023 by Sean Bradley

[vvvslaxman]

He has skills. But how to use them effectively, is something he has to learn. Right now he has serious execution problems.

[Lord]

not able to handle pressure of senior bowler. 

 

However there's no good alternative in squad.

 

Mukesh Kumar didnt even play IPL not sure he made it T20I squad.

 

Lot of options not there.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

was easily our best bowler in WT20.

 

Still young and time to learn.He's suddenly the senior pacer here and doesnt seem to handle it well so far.

 

No ball problem is an issue but it can't be rectified so easily else no one will bowl no ball.

Those were very different conditions that helped him overcome his lack of pace and bounce.  Same conditions that made Mohit Sharma be effective for India in 2015 WC - up to a point.  

 

Its 2023, India has better alternatives available.

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

He has skills. But how to use them effectively, is something he has to learn. Right now he has serious execution problems.

that comes from experience. I wonder if bowling coach is working on his issues.

[Lord]

Just now, sandeep said:

Those were very different conditions that helped him overcome his lack of pace and bounce.  Same conditions that made Mohit Sharma be effective for India in 2015 WC - up to a point.  

 

Its 2023, India has better alternatives available.

Was also good in WI (next WT20 venue),Asia Cup and home series v SA.

 

Other options are either injured or not selected for whatever reasons.

 

The alternative in squad is Mukesh Kumar who hasn't even played IPL.

[Frustrated]

9 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

He has skills. But how to use them effectively, is something he has to learn. Right now he has serious execution problems.

Skills without execution is like an Umbrella without its roof.    

[vvvslaxman]

9 minutes ago, Lord said:

that comes from experience. I wonder if bowling coach is working on his issues.

 

He has to have a lot of overs under his belt. He looked good in the world T20 with banana swing. He reduced SA to 8/5.  So he has something going for him. But everytime after a break he looks listless.

[Lord]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

He has to have a lot of overs under his belt. He looked good in the world T20 with banana swing. He reduced SA to 8/5.  So he has something going for him. But everytime after a break he looks listless.

He did play Ranjis AFAIK. 

 

More of a mental thing imo. There is no senior bowler he can look upto now.

[vvvslaxman]

5 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Skills without execution is like an Umbrella without its roof.    

 

True. But he has already owned some world class batsman in his first spell something Bhuvi couldn't do oflate.  QDK, russow, Babar, Rizwan against in Trivandrum he ran through SA.  T20 format can be unforgiving given the nature of the format. Batsman will come after every bowler.  Bumrah himself got cartered around in the few matches he played in between.  Think about an inexperienced rookie like him.  I want him to play a lot of domestic matches. Domestic mean actual first class matches not T20 where you bowl 2 overs spells of 2.  Once he plays there he will learn to control his deliveries. He is still a potential.

[wanted_desi]

He hardly bowled in past months after WC. Full IPL season should help him to get that consistency. 

[sandeep]

15 minutes ago, Lord said:

Was also good in WI (next WT20 venue),Asia Cup and home series v SA.

 

Other options are either injured or not selected for whatever reasons.

 

The alternative in squad is Mukesh Kumar who hasn't even played IPL.

There are plenty of alternatives, if we are talking WT20.  Siraj, Shami, Boom, Prasidh.   

 

None of these are left-armers, and with Mohsin and Nattu injured, Arshdeep is getting a few games and rightly so.  But he's fast working himself out of contention.  

[Lord]

1 minute ago, sandeep said:

There are plenty of alternatives, if we are talking WT20.  Siraj, Shami, Boom, Prasidh.   

 

None of these are left-armers, and with Mohsin and Nattu injured, Arshdeep is getting a few games and rightly so.  But he's fast working himself out of contention.  

 

Siraj is not a T20 option as of now. Shami has also been underwhelming throughout his T20I career (also old and too important for other formats)

 

Bumrah and Prasidh are injured,among others.

 

He's getting rope due to performances till WT20. Its running thin now I agree but still need to see if he can reverse it.

 

Even today he bowled 3 good overs including the 18th. So can seek confidence from that.

[zen]

For T20 WC in 2024, a lot of options:

 

Bumrah

Siraj

Moshin 

Umran

Mavi 

Sen

Prasidh 

Tyagi 

Dayal

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[vvvslaxman]

He delievered on the big stage infront of 90000 people against padosis's No.1  & No.2 ICC ranked batsmen     Let us not be harsh on him over a bilteral match he plays after long lay offs.