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The Ashes 2023


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  1. 1. Who will triumph?


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  • Poll closed on 07/07/23 at 04:00 PM

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Vijy said:

because their batting has been really poor since early 2010s. remember that cook, KP, trott feasted massively on those pitches. Brook = KP, and current root should be equal of trott at least. real issue is a replacement for cook, but I think one of duckett and crawley (both are inconsistent) can score in one of the 2 innings per test

 

They really did well only in 2010-11 Ashes where Aus attack was pedestrian (Hilfenhaus was the spearhead)

 

Brook is not a patch on KP lol

 

Root has always failed in Aus,even during his dream run.

 

Trott was forced to retire during Aus 2013 Ashes.He couldn't handle Mitch Johnson.Current Aus pacers are that quality.

Posted
1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

They really did well only in 2010-11 Ashes where Aus attack was pedestrian (Hilfenhaus was the spearhead)

 

Brook is not a patch on KP lol

 

Root has always failed in Aus,even during his dream run.

 

Trott was forced to retire during Aus 2013 Ashes.He couldn't handle Mitch Johnson.Current Aus pacers are that quality.

haven't seen anyone bowl as hostile as Mitch in 2013, none of this current crop

 

brook is more or less KP level, we will get to see more of this.

 

Besides, as I wrote, Aus pitches are generally on flatter side. a lot of players have done well there and poorly elsewhere (like flashy gill) because there is very little lateral movement

Posted
1 minute ago, Vijy said:

haven't seen anyone bowl as hostile as Mitch in 2013, none of this current crop

 

brook is more or less KP level, we will get to see more of this.

 

Besides, as I wrote, Aus pitches are generally on flatter side. a lot of players have done well there and poorly elsewhere (like flashy gill) because there is very little lateral movement

 

Gill also struggled except one innings. But he is good against short ball so did well at Gabba.

 

Aus pitches dont have swing but are faster and bouncier.Its a different challenge. They are definitely not pattas.

Posted
1 hour ago, Kothili said:

Somebody needs to get a big hundred and that will shutdown England.

Travball time, if he can get past Wood's short balls

Posted
5 hours ago, Vijy said:

because their batting has been really poor since early 2010s. remember that cook, KP, trott feasted massively on those pitches. Brook = KP, and current root should be equal of trott at least. real issue is a replacement for cook, but I think one of duckett and crawley (both are inconsistent) can score in one of the 2 innings per test

England haven't even come close to winning  test in Australia, of the last 15 there's been 13 losses and 2 rain affected draws that they were hundreds of runs behind in with the tail batting

This team has won 4-0 tosses and doctored pitches in a way england never have before and the best case scenario for them is doing as well as 2019 

Posted
7 minutes ago, waga said:

England haven't even come close to winning  test in Australia, of the last 15 there's been 13 losses and 2 rain affected draws that they were hundreds of runs behind in with the tail batting

This team has won 4-0 tosses and doctored pitches in a way england never have before and the best case scenario for them is doing as well as 2019 

Eng pitches were always favorable to their team, that's nothing new.

 

second, they have not had a run of 12 wins and 4 losses in a long time, probably stretching back to that heyday of 2010-11. I expect Aus to win 3-1 or 3-2, but it will be closer than before.

Posted (edited)

Ek toh yeh Khawaja is sala super boring upar se Marnus bhi tuk tuk, maybe they have the plan to bring draw into equation as the weather forecast is bad for the upcoming days. Goal maybe is to secure a draw and win the series, now that Ashes has been retained. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, rageaddict said:

Ek toh yeh Khawaja is sala super boring upar se Marnus bhi tuk tuk, maybe they have the plan to bring draw into equation as the weather forecast is bad for the upcoming days. Goal maybe is to secure a draw and win the series, now that Ashes has been retained. 

Nah looks more like they want to tire old England attack with Ali injured now. Conditions not that easy too so they want to be 100% safe and not loose match. Once in lifetime chance for most Australian players. Also this is just first session of 2nd day.

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