rangeelaraja Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/even-india-c-team-can-beat-pakistan-main-xi-sreesanth-hits-back-mickey-arthur-with-bold-world-cup-statement-ind-vs-pak-101697553918021.html Quote “Pakistan cannot even dream of playing in such a big stadium. We gave them a chance, but if you play like that, you won’t get such chances again,” Sreesanth added. Sreesanth you LEGEND. Gollum, raki05, Frustrated and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment
Serpico Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Pandya also tempted the fate like this in 2021 nevada, rangeelaraja and Lord 1 1 1 Link to comment
deathmonger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Serpico said: Pandya also tempted the fate like this in 2021 There is no "Tempting fate" etc. The world is not changed by statements like this. Australians talked a lot of **** during glory years and they won everything. Pakistanis talk a lot of **** and get pumped every time. Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, deathmonger said: There is no "Tempting fate" etc. The world is not changed by statements like this. Australians talked a lot of **** during glory years and they won everything. Pakistanis talk a lot of **** and get pumped every time. Ever since Mickey Mouse made that prophecy - 2 very strong teams eng and rsa lost to minnows making the pathway for Pak to enter knock outs the “ pak way “. Edited October 18, 2023 by rangeelaraja Link to comment
deathmonger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: Ever since Mickey Mouse made that prophecy - 2 very strong teams eng and rsa lost to minnows making the pathway for Pak to enter knock outs the “ pak way “. him saying/not saying wouldn't have changed it. rangeelaraja 1 Link to comment
deathmonger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 all of this is confirmation bias. can pakistan come back and win it all? YES. is it because of juju/jinxing? NO. People just do all that to feel hope. 2022 WT20 was going same as 92 with making it to knockouts, nz in semi, final against eng in mcg. what happened then? Vilander and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 50 minutes ago, deathmonger said: all of this is confirmation bias. can pakistan come back and win it all? YES. is it because of juju/jinxing? NO. People just do all that to feel hope. 2022 WT20 was going same as 92 with making it to knockouts, nz in semi, final against eng in mcg. what happened then? Pak has a decent chance of making it into Semis with SA & Eng dropping games to minnows. SA suddenly look beatable & have a razor thin lower middle order & longish Tail with Jansen at 7 lol... If they win against Australia I think they will sneak into Top 4 easily. Link to comment
deathmonger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said: Pak has a decent chance of making it into Semis with SA & Eng dropping games to minnows. SA suddenly look beatable & have a razor thin lower middle order & longish Tail with Jansen at 7 lol... If they win against Australia I think they will sneak into Top 4 easily. not saying they can't make the semis or even win it. but all this juju etc is nonsense. Aus, Pak, SA, Eng can all make top 4. Let's see what happens. All 4 have issues. Pak's main issue is Shadab-Nawaz are not good and middle overs can be milked. Hasan, Rauf, Shaheen are decent but they aren't extremely economical and can go for runs on their day. They don't have a Boult, Bumrah type who is wicket taking and economical. Naseem was that guy. So they don't have the guaranteed 20-30 economical overs we have with Bumrah, Kuldeep, Jadeja. Pandya, Siraj, Thakur can get tap but also take wickets. Their pacers are on that level. Can take wickets but gets tap. Also they can't remove one of Nawaz/Shadab cause then their batting is SA like with one of them batting at 7 and long tail. express bowling 1 Link to comment
AuxiliA Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said: Pak has a decent chance of making it into Semis with SA & Eng dropping games to minnows. SA suddenly look beatable & have a razor thin lower middle order & longish Tail with Jansen at 7 lol... If they win against Australia I think they will sneak into Top 4 easily. I will be highly surprised (or rather shocked lol) if Australia manages to lose to Pak at Bengaluru. This is not T20. Their spinners suck in ODIs big time and their best pacer is missing. Their lower middle order's tullebaaz batting can only work in T20 cricket. They can't be trusted against strong teams(155/2 to 191ao). Link to comment
deathmonger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: I will be highly surprised (or rather shocked lol) if Australia manages to lose to Pak at Bengaluru. This is not T20. Their spinners suck in ODIs big time and their best pacer is missing. Their lower middle order's tullebaaz batting can only work in T20 cricket. They can't be trusted against strong teams(155/2 to 191ao). That's an issue as well. Iftikhar, Nawaz, Shadab not that good. Agha/Saud untested and new. Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Oh no...not this again. Pls stay humble guys And no, our C team won't beat Pakistan. We just lost against them in Emerging cup finals, isn't it? Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Oh no...not this again. Pls stay humble guys And no, our C team won't beat Pakistan. We just lost against them in Emerging cup finals, isn't it? Their national team is worse than their emerging team. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, deathmonger said: not saying they can't make the semis or even win it. but all this juju etc is nonsense. Aus, Pak, SA, Eng can all make top 4. Let's see what happens. All 4 have issues. Pak's main issue is Shadab-Nawaz are not good and middle overs can be milked. Hasan, Rauf, Shaheen are decent but they aren't extremely economical and can go for runs on their day. They don't have a Boult, Bumrah type who is wicket taking and economical. Naseem was that guy. So they don't have the guaranteed 20-30 economical overs we have with Bumrah, Kuldeep, Jadeja. Pandya, Siraj, Thakur can get tap but also take wickets. Their pacers are on that level. Can take wickets but gets tap. Also they can't remove one of Nawaz/Shadab cause then their batting is SA like with one of them batting at 7 and long tail. Usama Mir can bat a bit... He did it in the 100... I would drop Shadab & keep Nawaz who is a better bat & more economical. You need a SLAO in India. Drop Imam & play Haris who is a hack though but they are going nowhere with Imam. Babri Masjid is brain dead to think like that though. Every side bar India/NZ has issues at this point. Who clicks at the business end will matter. Link to comment
deathmonger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Oh no...not this again. Pls stay humble guys And no, our C team won't beat Pakistan. We just lost against them in Emerging cup finals, isn't it? lol no, they weren't even same level. india sent u23s with 0 international experience. Pak sent experienced 30 year olds with international caps. On the same level, there is no comparison. As seen with the main teams here. And the performance of the 2nd xis in Asian Games. Link to comment
deathmonger Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Lone Wolf said: Usama Mir can bat a bit... He did it in the 100... I would drop Shadab & keep Nawaz who is a better bat & more economical. You need a SLAO in India. Drop Imam & play Haris who is a hack though but they are going nowhere with Imam. Babri Masjid is brain dead to think like that though. Every side bar India/NZ has issues at this point. Who clicks at the business end will matter. These things work in T20s. ODIs you have to do it for longer. Imam atleast can build an innings. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, AuxiliA said: I will be highly surprised (or rather shocked lol) if Australia manages to lose to Pak at Bengaluru. This is not T20. Their spinners suck in ODIs big time and their best pacer is missing. Their lower middle order's tullebaaz batting can only work in T20 cricket. They can't be trusted against strong teams(155/2 to 191ao). Ifti Chachu has some weakness against spin but he is one of their cleanest strikers against Pace. Australia Far more talented on paper but something is off with them. They need to drop either Marnus or Smith & push Marsh at 3 & open with Green to take on wayward Shaheen & Trundler Ali at the top. Chinnaswamy's small ground has evened it out a bit. Leg lapadu Rizwan may smack a few here. Shafique looks quality against off spin so Maxi may not work. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, deathmonger said: These things work in T20s. ODIs you have to do it for longer. Imam atleast can build an innings. Imam is doing neither. Chinnaswamy is one place where you can be more dynamic for a change. Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Ifti Chachu has some weakness against spin but he is one of their cleanest strikers against Pace. This gentleman in bold looks like a LeT / JeM trainer chacha like Zakiur Lakhvi. But he is supposed to be 33 years. Link to comment
putrevus Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Another fixer trying to be in the limelight. Lord 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said: This gentleman in bold looks like a LeT / JeM trainer chacha like Zakiur Lakhvi. But he is supposed to be 33 years. Ajmal said he used to play FC cricket with his elder brother in the 90's... Man is living proof of time travel rangeelaraja and express bowling 2 Link to comment
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