Against this RSA - Need a spin heavy attack - they will decimate trundlers

[rangeelaraja]

Only good experience spinners have had some sort of leash on this RSA batting.

 

Shardul and Hardik's bowling will be yield 80 runs+ each in 10 overs. 

 

Need Jaddu+Kuldeep+ Ashwin + Bumrah + Siraj (not the version that has been giving 2-3 boundary balls an over ). against RSA.

 

Hardik in as pure batter.

[express bowling]

Hardik can bowl 135 to 145 with bounce when in full flow.

 

We need that version and not the trundler version bowling 130 to 138. 

[Vijy]

10 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

Only good experience spinners have had some sort of leash on this RSA batting.

 

Shardul and Hardik's bowling will be yield 80 runs+ each in 10 overs. 

 

Need Jaddu+Kuldeep+ Ashwin + Bumrah + Siraj (not the version that has been giving 2-3 boundary balls an over ). against RSA.

 

Hardik in as pure batter.

we need hardik as AR. we don't have enough spots to play him as pure batter. it should be 3+3.

 

bumrah, hardik (4-5 overs), siraj/shami + kuldeep + jaddu  + ashwin

[cricketfan28]

that is one game we might lose, we will win remaining.

[rangeelaraja]

Against Pak , although he took 2 wickets, Hardik bowled like a part time trundler.

 

His bowling would be decimated against RSA.

 

if he is not bowling at his best , he must play as a pure batter. 
 

those 30 additional runs leaked by an all rounder who is bowling poorly can be the diff between winning and losing. 
 

 

 

[Vijy]

6 minutes ago, cricketfan28 said:

that is one game we might lose, we will win remaining.

we will lose big time vs NZ and SA. thrashings vs both are possible in principle. but we should fortunately make it to SFs

[Vijy]

2 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

Against Pak , although he took 2 wickets, Hardik bowled like a part time trundler.

 

His bowling would be decimated against RSA.

 

if he is not bowling at his best , he must play as a pure batter. 
 

those 30 additional runs leaked by an all rounder who is bowling poorly can be the diff between winning and losing. 
 

 

 

he can be used for 4 overs in the quieter spells (2+2), like T20s. the other 5 bowlers will take care of rest. the reason is that at least 1 of remaining 5 will have a bad day too (likely siraj or kuldeep)

[rangeelaraja]

2 minutes ago, Vijy said:

we will lose big time vs NZ and SA. thrashings vs both are possible in principle. but we should fortunately make it to SFs

 

If we lose to NZ who is without Kane their best player - and on our own home turf - I hope we *ing lose the World Cup because we don’t deserve to win . 
 

We should hammer the daylights of NZ. 
 

RSA - now that’s a different challenge. 

[Vijy]

7 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

If we lose to NZ who is without Kane their best player - and on our own home turf - I hope we *ing lose the World Cup because we don’t deserve to win . 
 

We should hammer the daylights of NZ. 
 

RSA - now that’s a different challenge. 

Kane is far from their best ODI player. arguably conway and latham are better.

 

Even if we win vs NZ, the moment we face them in KOs, we are likely to fold like a pack of cards.

 

as for SA, Klaasen is waiting to beat the crap out of ravi "darter" jaddu, kuldeep "fragile" yadav, and ravi "overthinker" ashwin.

 

yes, this is a bit of a reverse jinx post, before people get triggered

Edited October 21, 2023 by Vijy

[Majestic]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

Kane is far from their best ODI player. arguably conway and latham are better.

 

Even if we win vs NZ, the moment we face them in KOs, we are likely to fold like a pack of cards.

 

as for SA, Klaasen is waiting to beat the crap out of ravi "darter" jaddu, kuldeep "fragile" yadav, and ravi "overthinker" ashwin.

 

yes, this is a bit of a reverse jinx post, before people get triggered

Reverse jinx as in Kane will deliver in semis vs india and knock us out?

[Lord]

They have won massively batting first and lost to Ned batting 2nd. We know what we need to do.

[rangeelaraja]

12 minutes ago, Lord said:

They have won massively batting first and lost to Ned batting 2nd. We know what we need to do.

toss and batting first is not in our control. 
 

 

[Lord]

1 minute ago, rangeelaraja said:

toss and batting first is not in our control. 
 

 

 

yes but we can revolve our strategy around it.

[Nikhil_cric]

Spin? Their 4,5 and 6 murder spin bowling usually.  

 

We are playing them at Eden ?

 

They can't chase to save their lives. Only Miller can do chases. The rest come unstuck.

 

Let's hope we win the toss and make the right call. 

[rangeelaraja]

6 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

yes but we can revolve our strategy around it.

cannot revolve strategy based on something that is not your control like the toss. 
 

if we lose the toss and we are to chase … that is where the strategy should be focussed … how to contain their batting mixing the bowling and exploiting  their relative  weakness against spin 
 

also based on 1 match against minnows to assume RSA can’t chase  .. is also wrong 

 

1 match is no sample size. 

Edited October 21, 2023 by rangeelaraja

[nitinbwj]

Just get this Klaaasen out. Also, they haven't faced quality spin. Jadeja and Kuldeep are bowling at another level. Our bowling is far far better than this God awful bowling that Eng dished today. 

[vvvslaxman]

In Delhi we opened with Sundar and Siraj we bowled them out for 99 last year. Then kuldeep destroyed them with 4 for 18.

[rangeelaraja]

9 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

In Delhi we opened with Sundar and Siraj we bowled them out for 99 last year. Then kuldeep destroyed them with 4 for 18.

 

Exactly.

 

They can be dominated if our spinners bowl well.

 

It would be a disastrous decision by the team management if we don't play the trio of  Ashwin + Jaddu + Yadav against them.

 

 

[Number]

If Klassen can hit Bumrah like he hit Topley or Willey then he deserves the world cup medal. England bowling is just bad.

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, Majestic said:

Reverse jinx as in Kane will deliver in semis vs india and knock us out?

yes, or klaasen will