In 2023, India has 3 pacers bowling 150 kph+ .... Mayank Yadav, Kartik Tyagi and Umran Malik

[raki05]

Why manju and gavaskar gets orgasm on single after boundary.

[Lone Wolf]

Lmao

 

Edited November 12, 2023 by Lone Wolf

[Need4Speed]

23 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

If I talk of attitude...Tyagi is there. He really wants to bowl fast and he has really upped his pace from U-19 days in comparison to other U19 speed merchants like Mavi (who lost his pace) or Nagarkoti (almost at the same level). 

this should be the prime agenda of BCCI..how to groom folks like Tyagi..if he gets enough accuracy..you are going to win Test matches..everywhere...

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, Need4Speed said:

this should be the prime agenda of BCCI..how to groom folks like Tyagi..if he gets enough accuracy..you are going to win Test matches..everywhere...

BCCI needs to give them matches against Teams like BD, SL and others. And play them along side Bhumrah and Siraj when they are at their prime.

 

ODIs are best format where these new guys donot have all the pressure of going wrong in 1/2 over and costing the entire game. If they go wring in ODIs they will have Bhumrah and Siraj to cover up.

 

 

[Sooda]

Unfortunately none of Mayank, Tyagi, Umran have played enough FC cricket to know if theyre any good.

Kuldeep Sen has and done well.

[Vijy]

56 minutes ago, Sooda said:

Unfortunately none of Mayank, Tyagi, Umran have played enough FC cricket to know if theyre any good.

Kuldeep Sen has and done well.

yes, kuldeep and prasidh have played enough

[singhvivek141]

10 hours ago, Sooda said:

Unfortunately none of Mayank, Tyagi, Umran have played enough FC cricket to know if theyre any good.

Kuldeep Sen has and done well.

Umran will get chances now..he is now playing as lead pacer for J&K. I dont think they will play Ram Dayal again.

 

Mayank just debuted last year only, played one game..got injured but then came back later and bowled very quick.

 

Tyagi, keeping fingers crossed. Hope Aquib Khan or Ankit Rajpoot stay at bay.

[express bowling]

10 hours ago, Sooda said:

Unfortunately none of Mayank, Tyagi, Umran have played enough FC cricket to know if theyre any good.

Kuldeep Sen has and done well.

 

Mayank Yafav will play FC this season, if fit.  Delhi rate him very highly.

 

He has played 12 List A marches and has taken 28 wickets. Which is something special, especially given the fact that this includes stellar performances in the Zonal 50 over tournament where he was the 2nd highest wicket taker among pacers bowling to better quality batsmen.

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Mayank Yafav will play FC this season, if fit.  Delhi rate him very highly.

 

He has played 12 List A marches and has taken 28 wickets. Which is something special, especially given the fact that this includes stellar performances in the Zonal 50 over tournament where he was the 2nd highest wicket taker among pacers bowling to better quality batsmen.

hope to see him get several games for delhi

[Suhaan]

3 minutes ago, Vijy said:

hope to see him get several games for delhi

Actually there should be a balance between enough games and workload

He's a potential India national selection

70%-80%enough including KO games in domestic season

They must be fresh and full strength for India till the time they play for India

[Vijy]

9 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Actually there should be a balance between enough games and workload

He's a potential India national selection

70%-80%enough including KO games in domestic season

They must be fresh and full strength for India till the time they play for India

as long as they get enough overs, that is good

[express bowling]

Great to see Mayank Yadav realize his potential on the big stage in his first 2 matches. 

 

All the best lad ! 

 

Next step for the BCCI is to see that Tyagi and Umran realize their potential too via proper guidance. 

 

And hunt must be on for other young 150 k+ pacers who are bowling decently at pre-state level.  I hope Mayank's initial success triggers this. 

Edited April 2, 2024 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Mayank is bowling accurate 152 k to 156 k deliveries at will.  

 

Amazing ! 

[Vijy]

6 hours ago, express bowling said:

Great to see Mayank Yadav realize his potential on the big stage in his first 2 matches. 

 

All the best lad ! 

 

Next step for the BCCI is to see that Tyagi and Umran realize their potential too via proper guidance. 

 

And hunt must be on for other young 150 k+ pacers who are bowling decently at pre-state level.  I hope Mayank's initial success triggers this. 

high quality guidance under pace legend mamba... er... mhambrey.

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, Vijy said:

high quality guidance under pace legend mamba... er... mhambrey.

 

The BCCI should give  Bharat Arun a contract to train the upcoming Team India quicks at the NCA. He understands fast bowling as well as young Indian quicks. 

 

Let him work with Mayank, Harshit, Tyagi, Akashdeep, Umran, Himanshu, Sakib etc. 

 

 

Edited April 3, 2024 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

27 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

ThrvBCCI should give  Bharat Arun a contract to train the upcoming Team India quicks at the NCA.

 

Let him work with Mayank, Harshit, Tyagi, Akashdeep, Umran, Himanshu, Sakib etc. 

 

 

We have Troy Cooley at NCA.

[express bowling]

Just now, rkt.india said:

We have Troy Cooley at NCA.

 

Yes. But Cooley is probably not a full timer.

 

And I feel Arun interacts really well with Indian lads. 

 

Both can be there.

[nevada]

3 hours ago, Vijy said:

high quality guidance under pace legend mamba... er... mhambrey.

He and Dravid will make him trundle at 130 or make him carry drinks for a few years. 

[Nikhil_cric]

It's all very good but the issue for me is 

 

1. Express bowlers are great for the speed gun but,historically, have never been the best bowlers 

 

2.  Have never sustained their pace for too long (Akhtar, Lee and Tait are exceptions )

 

3. Those who did sustain just for a couple of years were not even the best bowlers in their respective sides 

 

Starc was never the best out of the OZ trio 

 

 

The bowlers that win you matches across formats are those who can hit length all day , any day at 140-145 with bounce and crank it upto 150 kph on demand. But we don't seem to produce such bowlers 

 

The 150 kph + is great for optics .

But is clearly not guarantee , from history , for consistent match winning performances 

[express bowling]

25 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

It's all very good but the issue for me is 

 

1. Express bowlers are great for the speed gun but,historically, have never been the best bowlers 

 

2.  Have never sustained their pace for too long (Akhtar, Lee and Tait are exceptions )

 

3. Those who did sustain just for a couple of years were not even the best bowlers in their respective sides 

 

Starc was never the best out of the OZ trio 

 

 

The bowlers that win you matches across formats are those who can hit length all day , any day at 140-145 with bounce and crank it upto 150 kph on demand. But we don't seem to produce such bowlers 

 

The 150 kph + is great for optics .

But is clearly not guarantee , from history , for consistent match winning performances 

 

 

1.  With improvement in nutrition, training techniques etc. pace is increasing for the average bowler. The effort with which earlier pacers bowled 145 k+, the newer lot may bowl 150 k+. 

 

2.  Roberts, Holding, Marshall, Donald, Waqar, Steyn were all express in their quickest years and ATG pacers too.  

 

3.  There have been many ATG pacers like Steyn and Cummins, who started off as 150 k+ but later settled down to 140 k+ with odd 145 k+ spells. 

 

So, some of the express pacers we unearth may do this too 

 

 

4.  Injuries and niggles are inevitable, whether you bowl 150 k+ or 140 k+. And thus leads to some loss of pace.

 

A pacer who starts at 150 k+ will still be fast after losing some pace. A pacer who starts at 140 k+ may become medium pace like Shaheen after injury. 

 

5.  We had Bumrah doing what you said from 2017 to 2022.  That is hitting cinsistent good lengths at 140 to 145 and going up to 147 / 150 when needed. Which is ehh he is our first potential ATG pacer.

 

6.  ATG teams have always used atlesst one tearaway quick to soften batters up, even if they don't end up as ATGs. Like Lee and Johnson in tests. Both had long careers. 

 

It serves a big team goal. 

 

 

Edited April 3, 2024 by express bowling