AKane Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, neel roy said: Exactly the point. They got spooked by glen maxwell and mitch marsh s capability rather than their own bowling strength.. india won the toss in wtc and like a lunatic chose to field first when it was amply clear after 2 hours of cloudy conditions next 5 days would be absolutely sunny.. India lost WC final because we had to bat first and pitch was iffy India lost WTC because we chose to bowl first and conditions were... Bat first, excuses... bowl first, excuses....Man I don't know. I am tired of excuses. All I see are defeats in vital matches. Maybe we are just not that good when a good team applies the pressure. 3 hours ago, neel roy said: we could have easily piled on 400 on that oval pitch and won the match Why "easily"? Aus have a say in that too. Maybe we are just not that good when a good team applies the pressure. Link to comment
Nikola Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 4 hours ago, neel roy said: Exactly the point. They got spooked by glen maxwell and mitch marsh s capability rather than their own bowling strength.. india won the toss in wtc and like a lunatic chose to field first when it was amply clear after 2 hours of cloudy conditions next 5 days would be absolutely sunny.. we could have easily piled on 400 on that oval pitch and won the match to score 400, we had to survive first 35-40 overs and with sort of help bowlers had initially on day one, boland alone would have eaten our top & middle order. that's reason most our batsman would have decided to bowl knowing our history of collapses. AKane 1 Link to comment
The Realist Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Ind revert to the mean in knock-out or critical games, instead of playing normal game or even taking the attack - they go defensive and inevitably lose. Dravid epitomises that crippling mentality. Has zero innovation, ideas or strategy. And he will be "coaching" again at the next tournament in 2024 as been rewarded for failing. Might as well dismantle the trophy cabinet and put it to better use. Link to comment
harpicP Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 We lost the WTC final cause no pant and bumrah. Endof/ We lost the WC final in 2023 cause harpic dint play? As much as I don't like him, he gives us balance with the ball and fights hard in ko games. Not selecting lefties in the top order is another mistake knowing fully well that Australia are weak vs lefties. What a disaster. Selection of shami to open over siraj. Link to comment
harpicP Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Main culprits are Rahul, iyer and sky. Kohli did ok but he should have taken it deep in reality. Edited December 2, 2023 by harpicP Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Has India won any ICC tournament with Dravid in the side? under-19 world cup i think. May be one CT sharing in the final. Link to comment
sage Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 So he's admitting to pitch fixing? raki05 1 Link to comment
AKane Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 hours ago, harpicP said: We lost the WTC final cause no pant and bumrah. Endof/ I don't know.... Bumrah played the first WTC final. Had zero wickets in the match. harpicP 1 Link to comment
harpicP Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Has India won any ICC tournament with Dravid in the side? under-19 world cup i think. May be one CT sharing in the final. 2007 wc loss - dravid played 2003 wc loss - but that was a goat side Champions trophy loss to nz in 2001? In tests he did help india win in England and nz although that nz team was an absolute joke. Link to comment
raki05 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Better to make this lodu curator than coach. AKane, sage and adi B 3 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 17 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: A fresh pitch would have been our best friend. A red soil track would've been better, we went from Red clay batting paradise in Mumbai to this *ing joke clack soil one in the finals. Oz went from Black soil slow tuner in SF to an even better black soil deck in the finals. But the bottom line is we didn't adapt well/quick enough & had no plan B/C/D when RGS threw his wicket away Blaming the pitch will only get you so far Link to comment
R!TTER Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 8 hours ago, harpicP said: We lost the WC final in 2023 cause harpic dint play? As much as I don't like him, he gives us balance with the ball and fights hard in ko games. He wouldn't do jack in this game, we were 2 batters & 2 bowlers short especially with that kind of dew in effect. Of course the insipid captaincy didn't help! harpicP 1 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Rahul dravid isnt the kind who would make excuses Link to comment
neel roy Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, AKane said: India lost WC final because we had to bat first and pitch was iffy India lost WTC because we chose to bowl first and conditions were... Bat first, excuses... bowl first, excuses....Man I don't know. I am tired of excuses. All I see are defeats in vital matches. Maybe we are just not that good when a good team applies the pressure. Why "easily"? Aus have a say in that too. Maybe we are just not that good when a good team applies the pressure. In first innings india did not bat badly.. now think if they had the same score batting first we would have been in a good position as ball started to spin from day 3 Edited December 3, 2023 by neel roy Link to comment
vivek04 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 because of his wrong selections and grooming of players, we lost it is as simple as that. Aus side played on the same pitch and outplayed us. Your wrong strategy backfired. Link to comment
adi B Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 This loser should rather give an explanation as to why he and the Management didn't plan to get Head's wkt ! Didn't he see the live Demo Head showed us in the World test championships finals and the Odi series earlier in India ? Didn't even try a right hander off spinner during the innings Link to comment
srgadjon Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, adi B said: This loser should rather give an explanation as to why he and the Management didn't plan to get Head's wkt ! Didn't he see the live Demo Head showed us in the World test championships finals and the Odi series earlier in India ? Didn't even try a right hander off spinner during the innings Team management have no sense of planning. Even in the current T20 series against Australia, no attempt was made to even try out a 6th bowling option like Tilak Varma or W Sundar, in case we need an extra bowling option if one of the main bowlers has an off day or maybe the pitch has more help for spinners. They are just happy to win the game at hand, even dead rubbers and keep their job safe, nobody cares about the team or have a vision for winning big tournaments. adi B 1 Link to comment
figo6762 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Bcci learn from ECB on talking accountability… have these meetings but also provide direct answers to the public .. none of this says report articles Link to comment
thecricketer Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Can't BCCI afford a foreign coach? Link to comment
maniac Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Had Australia batted first on that pitch Australia would be 338-8 and India would be allout for 246 in 48.5 overs. Link to comment
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