3rd T20I (D/N), Johannesburg, December 14, 2023, India tour of South Africa

[IndianRenegade]

7 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

wanted pitch to stay like this during wcup final..

effing dew...

[rish]

Keep gill and iyer out ..worthless

[Need4Speed]

37 minutes ago, rish said:

Keep gill and iyer out ..worthless

I am all for promoting young talent..but if Rohit can play same brand of cricket he played in odi wcup..he is better option to open along side with Jaisawal...as compared to Gill's current form\mental state..lets go all guns blazing..

[vvvslaxman]

7 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

I am all for promoting young talent..but if Rohit can play same brand of cricket he played in odi wcup..he is better option to open along side with Jaisawal...as compared to Gill's current form\mental state..lets go all guns blazing..

 

I think we have to stop going back to them. Try some other youngster.  I don't mind India losing world T20 with youngsters. Again the same one-dimensional players same result is no good. T20 requires athletic fielding as well. Bit part time if necessary. INdia has to start developing different line up. 

[Need4Speed]

14 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

I think we have to stop going back to them. Try some other youngster.  I don't mind India losing world T20 with youngsters. Again the same one-dimensional players same result is no good. T20 requires athletic fielding as well. Bit part time if necessary. INdia has to start developing different line up. 

I agree in general..but given the current situation\time left...i see 3 options to partner with Jaisawal..

Gill

Gaekwad

Rohit

Ishan Kishan(maybe?)

 

out of these..Rohit looks better currently..

 

Unless someone new has breathtaking IPL..we will have to chose from them.

 

Lets..see..who wins the race later..

 

after this worldcup we definitely need to step away from Rohit..

[vvvslaxman]

8 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

I agree in general..but given the current situation\time left...i see 3 options to partner with Jaisawal..

Gill

Gaekwad

Rohit

Ishan Kishan(maybe?)

 

out of these..Rohit looks better currently..

 

Unless someone new has breathtaking IPL..we will have to chose from them.

 

Lets..see..who wins the race later..

 

after this worldcup we definitely need to step away from Rohit..

Rohit was one of the worst performer in 2021 and 2022 world T20. Even in IPL he hardly did anything. Just because he did in ODI doesn't mean he will do the same in T20 as well. India needs to move on. His fielding is horrible. 

[Need4Speed]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Rohit was one of the worst performer in 2021 and 2022 world T20. Even in IPL he hardly did anything. Just because he did in ODI doesn't mean he will do the same in T20 as well. India needs to move on. His fielding is horrible. 

I wasnt expecting him to play agressively in odi wcup..he pleasantly surprised me..its no guarantee he can replicate same in t20 wcup..or what effect final loss has caused on him..but he is a better player than Gill for me on current form and massive experience..esp the way he hit well in slow tracks too..all this is in context of limited time left..in t20 wcup..where tracks could be slow too..

anyways..all of this may change..after IPL..what if Ishan Kishan..has a breathtaking season..

 

Edit: I didnt see Gill's batting in these 2 odis..just catching up highlights..I will give him more chances..he started faster than Jaisawal today..pitch was suiting spinners today..he started well against pace..

Edited December 14, 2023 by Need4Speed

[neel roy]

Gill was not out today.. he didnt review as last match he reviewed a plumb decision.. 

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

I wasnt expecting him to play agressively in odi wcup..he pleasantly surprised me..its no guarantee he can replicate same in t20 wcup..or what effect final loss has caused on him..but he is a better player than Gill for me on current form and massive experience..esp the way he hit well in slow tracks too..all this is in context of limited time left..in t20 wcup..where tracks could be slow too..

anyways..all of this may change..after IPL..what if Ishan Kishan..has a breathtaking season..

 

Kishan has been tried enough. He just can't fix his dot ball count. That is a huge minus. More than 50% of the balls he faces are dot balls.  I would kick out Jadeja and get Abshishek in and let him open the innings with Jaiswal and both go after the bowling. If they don't like that then Rutu is the only other option. 

[Need4Speed]

12 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Kishan has been tried enough. He just can't fix his dot ball count. That is a huge minus. More than 50% of the balls he faces are dot balls.  I would kick out Jadeja and get Abshishek in and let him open the innings with Jaiswal and both go after the bowling. If they don't like that then Rutu is the only other option. 

thats a good option..but doubt selectors will have this vision..

[harpicP]

If india go in with Gill as opener, you are effectively going to be 2/1.

 

Just put him in middle order.

[Frustrated]

4 hours ago, neel roy said:

Gill was not out today.. he didnt review as last match he reviewed a plumb decision.. 

Yes.  But a proven performer who is currently in form (like Gaikwad) should be playing in place of Gill.   

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

18 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Yes.  But a proven performer who is currently in form (like Gaikwad) should be playing in place of Gill.   

Aise nahi hota. Bhai bandhu ko hi khilate hai. Useless games win karte rehte hain. 

[Suhaan]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Kishan has been tried enough. He just can't fix his dot ball count. That is a huge minus. More than 50% of the balls he faces are dot balls.  I would kick out Jadeja and get Abshishek in and let him open the innings with Jaiswal and both go after the bowling. If they don't like that then Rutu is the only other option. 

Abhishek,who? selectors don't know about this name in domestic circuit

Musical chair is played till the time ICC event is there,they lock usual suspects eventually

It's all drama

[Lone Wolf]

Kuldeep back in form before ODIs...  Very young side for ODIs tbh. 

Avesh is decentish bowler in ODIs...  Rather have him than Arshdeep who got lucky wickets today

 

Sai Sudarsan v Patidar..  One of em might get a debut.  Can Sai bowl? 

[Gollum]

Kuldeep another bilateral bully, mental midget, matched Chahal in these KOs. Now will enjoy plenty of cheap wickets and build a fake aura.

[Gollum]

Siraj in T20s, selectors gone mad?

[Norman]

All this just to bend their knees against no name spinners in T20 WC knockout on those slow Caribbean wickets. Can see it from a mile away..

[harpicP]

7 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Kuldeep another bilateral bully, mental midget, matched Chahal in these KOs. Now will enjoy plenty of cheap wickets and build a fake aura.

i was also let down by kuldeep. really had high hopes for him but he failed badly in the final of wc and so did jadeja. pacers did well to get them to 42/3

 

cant ask for any better as pitch became a belter all of a sudden.

also blame goes to captain for poor field settings. 

[Frustrated]

20 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Siraj in T20s, selectors gone mad?

Bowled well last night.