ravishingravi Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 With West Bengal as close second. With rest of India's GDP per Capita growing by 40-50% in 90s, Lalu managed to shrink the economy by 30%. All the caste talks and politics only gets you so far. You have to get down to doing stuff. Stunning decline. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/how-caste-politics-played-a-spoilsport-for-bihar-growth-while-odisha-is-surging-forward/articleshow/106032280.cms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: With West Bengal as close second. With rest of India's GDP per Capita growing by 40-50% in 90s, Lalu managed to shrink the economy by 30%. All the caste talks and politics only gets you so far. You have to get down to doing stuff. Stunning decline. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/how-caste-politics-played-a-spoilsport-for-bihar-growth-while-odisha-is-surging-forward/articleshow/106032280.cms Paywall :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 3 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Paywall :-( No. I could read, never pay for news websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: No. I could read, never pay for news websites. Unlike us ordinary Biology professors, you computer geeks have some tricks up your sleeve. ravishingravi and coffee_rules 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Kerala, TN, W Bengal, soon Punjab - all hopeless. UP is seeing a resurgence as are states like Orissa. IMO, Bihar since independence has been a hellhole and has remained one. Hopefully, Jharkhand and Chattisgarh come out of the hellhole category as well. Mid-eastern India has always been a cesspit since its glory days in the 10th century and before. The brutal sacking of Nalanda and other places of learning and culture pretty much catapulted these areas into the stone ages. ash and raki05 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 7 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Paywall :-( Other alternative. https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1735879086462103816?t=6gr0g3E8GA_kBB5pClraSw&s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 It always feels like people in Bihar and UP are happy with their lot and dont mind being poor,those who are not happy are moving to other states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted December 17, 2023 Author Share Posted December 17, 2023 17 hours ago, bharathh said: Kerala, TN, W Bengal, soon Punjab - all hopeless. UP is seeing a resurgence as are states like Orissa. IMO, Bihar since independence has been a hellhole and has remained one. Hopefully, Jharkhand and Chattisgarh come out of the hellhole category as well. Mid-eastern India has always been a cesspit since its glory days in the 10th century and before. The brutal sacking of Nalanda and other places of learning and culture pretty much catapulted these areas into the stone ages. To your point, UP has taken off. https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1736267674487795937?t=7Fb3ZfEl7WfNlYxufMlaWg&s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted December 17, 2023 Author Share Posted December 17, 2023 6 hours ago, cowboysfan said: It always feels like people in Bihar and UP are happy with their lot and dont mind being poor,those who are not happy are moving to other states. At current growth rate, UP will be second largest economy in 5 years and largest in 10 years. It's not the same b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 9 hours ago, cowboysfan said: It always feels like people in Bihar and UP are happy with their lot and dont mind being poor,those who are not happy are moving to other states. Frogs in the well never know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 9:36 PM, bharathh said: Kerala, TN, W Bengal, soon Punjab - all hopeless. UP is seeing a resurgence as are states like Orissa. IMO, Bihar since independence has been a hellhole and has remained one. Hopefully, Jharkhand and Chattisgarh come out of the hellhole category as well. Mid-eastern India has always been a cesspit since its glory days in the 10th century and before. The brutal sacking of Nalanda and other places of learning and culture pretty much catapulted these areas into the stone ages. Last 2 years Kerala grew by 25% UP grew by 27%. Tamil Nadu grew by 29%. Conclusion, Kerala and Tamil Nadu are hopeless, UP is seeing a resurgence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 5:32 PM, ravishingravi said: With West Bengal as close second. With rest of India's GDP per Capita growing by 40-50% in 90s, Lalu managed to shrink the economy by 30%. All the caste talks and politics only gets you so far. You have to get down to doing stuff. Stunning decline. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/how-caste-politics-played-a-spoilsport-for-bihar-growth-while-odisha-is-surging-forward/articleshow/106032280.cms What has been WB GDP growth in last 10 years, 5 years, 2 years? How does it compare to growth in other states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: What has been WB GDP growth in last 10 years, 5 years, 2 years? How does it compare to growth in other states? As a bong, i will say that WB's growth is a typical scenario of deficit spending by state govt ( many of the handout schemes of mumtaz banu) that inflates the GDP. But the base reality of WB's dysfunction still remains : Educated Bengalis leave bengal to find work in other parts of India, for every single STEM field minus the M(Medicine) as well as nearly non-existant growth in private sector manufacturing. Until those two trends are rectified, WB, like Kerala, will post artifically inflated numbers (one due to deficit spending, the other due to remittance income). UP gets the love because unlike WB or Kerala, UP has joined the heavyweights like TN, KAR, MAH & HAR in private sector job creation category. That is the main fundamental driver of good growth, as opposed to artificial boosts to the GDP numbers ala Murrica for eg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/17/2023 at 8:49 AM, cowboysfan said: It always feels like people in Bihar and UP are happy with their lot and dont mind being poor,those who are not happy are moving to other states. Lol, you are clueless. UP is doing very well. I would happily choose UP over any of the 5 South Indian states at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 47 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Lol, you are clueless. UP is doing very well. I would happily choose UP over any of the 5 South Indian states at this point... choose for what? there is a reason Gulf countries have seen tremendous amount of migrant workers from Bihar and UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Bihar has grown by about 10% in real terms for the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: choose for what? there is a reason Gulf countries have seen tremendous amount of migrant workers from Bihar and UP. Gulf countries have plenty of Mallu workers as well. You keep clubbing UP and Bihar together. The development of UP - infra, jobs, safety, security, beautification is a recent trend of past 10 years. It has already reached a certain level, that I will choose it over all south Indian states, and is destined for better times. Seems people like you will do their best to not acknowledge any of that due to biases/ingrained hatred. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, randomGuy said: Gulf countries have plenty of Mallu workers as well. You keep clubbing UP and Bihar together. The development of UP - infra, jobs, safety, security, beautification is a recent trend of past 10 years. It has already reached a certain level, that I will choose it over all south Indian states, and is destined for better times. Seems people like you will do their best to not acknowledge any of that due to biases/ingrained hatred. Most of the south Indian states have per capita GDP 2-4 times of UP. It will take another 25-30 years for UP to catch up with those states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 https://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/Publications/PDFs/26T_15112023E153E32B394446B08A0318979840F668.PDF Looking at RBI report from 2017-2022: UP has increased per capita GDP from 41771 to 47066 West Bengal has increased per capita GDP from 64007 to 75561 Tamil Nadu has increased per capita GDP from 133029 to 166727 Kerala has increased per capita GDP from 137181 to 148810 (upto 2022). Telangana from 131503 to 169006 Karanata from 140745 to 176383. State Initial Per Capita GDP Final Per Capita GDP Percentage Change Uttar Pradesh 41771 47066 12.68% increase West Bengal 64007 75561 18.05% increase Tamil Nadu 133029 166727 25.33% increase Kerala 137181 148810 8.48% increase Telangana 131503 169006 28.52% increase Karnataka 140745 176383 25.32% increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 'At least two Indian states, Maharashtra and Uttar Pradesh, will break the $500 billion mark in 2027 (or FY28) when India achieves the third place in global economy, adding the Yogi Adityanath-ruled northern state is the ''land of the midnight sun''.' https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/economy/story/india-to-become-worlds-third-largest-economy-by-fy28-two-states-will-break-500-bn-mark-sbi-ecowrap-391550-2023-07-27 Also, One should not compare UP with any other state in per capita GDP because of the size of UP. Smaller states tend to have higher per capita GDP, for ex. Delhi Goa Sikkim have 1.5-2x the per capita GDP of TN in the link which you shared. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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