Will the NRIs now return to India? Since India is moving towards 'Akhand Bharat'.

[Muloghonto]

3 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

 

This is the joke of the century. Adani, who owns 10 corporate jets, dozens of homes and is buying up all government owned infrastructure in India is now a savior of India to counter China. Not the Indian army.

Its not one or the either. To counter China, we need to counter them in the industrial space as well. Thats where Adani comes in. 

3 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

 

My goodness the level of brainwashing is on a level even the Madarasas can't compete. Are you even repeating to yourself what you write?

We are not the ones brainwashed to discard facts of poverty alleviation- you are. 

3 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

 

Because while you worship Adani, he is sitting at his golden palace now funded by state banks that don't even give a penny loan to small businesses without collateral. 

And that is fine. 

[mishra]

8 hours ago, Singh bling said:

Is this optimism you are talking about

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/better-to-die-in-israel-than-of-hunger-here-say-job-seekers/articleshow/106911431.cms

 

 

 

Sorry, whats ur point. Are you saying that thry are not optimistic about future or they represent majority view in state?

Edited February 3, 2024 by mishra

[gattaca]

4 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

 

This is the joke of the century. Adani, who owns 10 corporate jets, dozens of homes and is buying up all government owned infrastructure in India is now a savior of India to counter China. Not the Indian army.

 

My goodness the level of brainwashing is on a level even the Madarasas can't compete. Are you even repeating to yourself what you write?

 

Because while you worship Adani, he is sitting at his golden palace now funded by state banks that don't even give a penny loan to small businesses without collateral. 

lol what happened to adani brother. He is ok now. Again congress had license raj and epitome of corruption. congress chamchas got rich. Now licensing is all online no middle man. Businesses will get rich in India. Adani , Ambani every industrialist will get loans and provide employment. Every time someone cries about Adani or ambani they should at least research how much employment they provide. They provide employment to over 2,60, 000.  This is direct employment only there is indirect employment as well. 

 

Edited February 3, 2024 by gattaca

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

Its not one or the either. To counter China, we need to counter them in the industrial space as well. Thats where Adani comes in. 

We are not the ones brainwashed to discard facts of poverty alleviation- you are. 

And that is fine. 

the gap here is bigger than many know, though china is admittedly on a decline. more people than adani will be needed to close that gap

[mishra]

11 minutes ago, Vijy said:

the gap here is bigger than many know, though china is admittedly on a decline. more people than adani will be needed to close that gap

Its massive Gap. 18 trillion : 4 trillion is not not to be seen as 9:2. See it as how many years from now India will become a 18 trillion economy and suddenly it dawns how much gap exists.

 

Right now, We need help from everyone, US, UK, EU, and most importantly Russia to stand a chance

[coffee_rules]

10 hours ago, Singh bling said:

Is this optimism you are talking about

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/better-to-die-in-israel-than-of-hunger-here-say-job-seekers/articleshow/106911431.cms

 

 

 

Click-bait headline. There is nothing in the article that anybody said anything close to the headline.,, Bas apne pichawade se headline nikala chirakut ne!! 

[Mariyam]

On 2/3/2024 at 9:53 AM, coffee_rules said:

 

As Forrest Gump says, “A Troll is as a Troll does” . 
 

Forrest Gump?? Aa kon che?

 

You have been thoroughly yankified. @MechEng is talking about the likes of you in this thread.
 

 

Reference closer to home: 

Troll mol ke bol 

[coffee_rules]

5 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Forrest Gump?? Aa kon che?

 

You have been thoroughly yankified. @MechEng is talking about the likes of you in this thread.
 

 

Reference closer to home: 

Troll mol ke bol 

For him, the quote from Forrest Gump is: Stupid is as stupid does. 
 

[Muloghonto]

20 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

 

There's a saying: there are those who lead and there are those who follow.

 

People like you will always worship kings who will loot you behind the scenes but you will be happy as he is at least "your king".

 

The difference is, there should not even be a king in a democracy.

 

The fact that you keep coming up with new excuses to prop up robber barons of modern India who don't donate a single cent for the upliftment of small businesses and are defacto monopolies in several key sectors is all I need to know that you will be satisfied being a slave as long as your master is someone who agrees with you on a couple of issues.

Except, there is always a king in democracy. Learn from your gora masters - robber barons that do the bidding of the nation state are heroes. 

[mishra]

People , Specially Indian who think criminals in India go scott free if they are polticians, need to know that Forget corruption, heinous crimes like paedophylia , rape is not even quested in West if perpetrators is related to Royal family or linked to them.

 

I think US. Is only one which occasionally makes noises against Royalties but are immediately shut down by Western press in name of BLM and racism 

Edited February 4, 2024 by mishra

[Muloghonto]

5 hours ago, mishra said:

People , Specially Indian who think criminals in India go scott free if they are polticians, need to know that Forget corruption, heinous crimes like paedophylia , rape is not even quested in West if perpetrators is related to Royal family or linked to them.

 

I think US. Is only one which occasionally makes noises against Royalties but are immediately shut down by Western press in name of BLM and racism 

 

forget royalty. Western countries have 15-50 times higher rape per capita statistics than any Asian country not known as South Korea. Be it hyper developed liberal democracy japan, developing liberal democracy india, developed islamic autocracy saudi or undeveloped islamic autocracy such as lebanon. 

And while in India and most places in Asia, the guilty rate to reported rape rate is between 20-30%, in the west no country has crossed 3% in the last 25 years. 

And these people have the temerity of calling our country rape capital of the world or corrupt or crime ridden.

 

[MechEng]

On 2/4/2024 at 10:00 AM, Mariyam said:

Forrest Gump?? Aa kon che?

 

You have been thoroughly yankified. @MechEng is talking about the likes of you in this thread.
 

 

Reference closer to home: 

Troll mol ke bol 

 

He's not yankified, but probably belongs to the desi version of ku klux klan and operates underground.

[mishra]

On 2/5/2024 at 4:36 AM, Muloghonto said:

 

forget royalty. Western countries have 15-50 times higher rape per capita statistics than any Asian country not known as South Korea. Be it hyper developed liberal democracy japan, developing liberal democracy india, developed islamic autocracy saudi or undeveloped islamic autocracy such as lebanon. 

And while in India and most places in Asia, the guilty rate to reported rape rate is between 20-30%, in the west no country has crossed 3% in the last 25 years. 

And these people have the temerity of calling our country rape capital of the world or corrupt or crime ridden.

 

No, my point was about General Sense that Indian politicians are corrupt and Rich go scott free in India while western democracy dont let that happen. Some point to the case of Monica Lewinsky where a woman got justice against highest office, People fail to realise that at the same time a storm was suppressed in media reegarding US state machinery systematically increasing drug use in America among its Black population. The Investigative journalist Gary Webb was forced to resign (Circumstantially)  and then never got job in any media organisation(So much for press freedom)

 

Take the case of Prince Andrew from UK or Jim will fix it from BBC , why so far, current Greensill  row involving David Cameroon. All is considered as "Error in Judgement", No investigation, No reporting, No questioning but somehow Same error in Judgemnt becomes Corruption when issue is NOT in west. A hate Speaker/Terror Sympathiser/Terror Fund raiser is immdiately shut and may be bombed in any part of world if its against Western Countries but worse cases are called "Freedom Of Speech" and "Fight for Justice and equality" when directed against non Western nation. I understand why West behaves that way, What I cant understand is why Indians in India buy that narrative. Arent they educated enough?

[BacktoCricaddict]

2 hours ago, mishra said:

No, my point was about General Sense that Indian politicians are corrupt and Rich go scott free in India while western democracy dont let that happen. Some point to the case of Monica Lewinsky where a woman got justice against highest office, People fail to realise that at the same time a storm was suppressed in media reegarding US state machinery systematically increasing drug use in America among its Black population. The Investigative journalist Gary Webb was forced to resign (Circumstantially)  and then never got job in any media organisation(So much for press freedom)

 

Take the case of Prince Andrew from UK or Jim will fix it from BBC , why so far, current Greensill  row involving David Cameroon. All is considered as "Error in Judgement", No investigation, No reporting, No questioning but somehow Same error in Judgemnt becomes Corruption when issue is NOT in west. A hate Speaker/Terror Sympathiser/Terror Fund raiser is immdiately shut and may be bombed in any part of world if its against Western Countries but worse cases are called "Freedom Of Speech" and "Fight for Justice and equality" when directed against non Western nation. I understand why West behaves that way, What I cant understand is why Indians in India buy that narrative. Arent they educated enough?

My operative phrase while describing the rich and/or powerful:  "Sab kaminey hain."  Some are more kaminey than others.

 

For a lot of us who immigrated 30-40 yrs ago, we had a false sense that corruption does not exist in the West. 

 

This because corruption in the corridors of power was not palpable; it did not trickle down to the common citizen's daily life. No bribery/babugiri at little sarkari offices. The police/clerks etc gave good customer service - they treated everyone with politeness. There was respect for rules and no power-tripping. In the 90s' that was a stark contrast from how India worked. For every little thing, you had to grease someone's palm or be abused.

 

So, it gave a sense that all Westerners were like that - kind, considerate, fair-minded, polite. It took some time and observation before we learned that - in the real corridors of power - it's the same shyte everywhere.

 

On a side-note, I think things have improved in India in regard to babugiri. And things have regressed here in the US - there seems to be more babugiri than when I first moved.

 

 

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

On 2/5/2024 at 4:11 AM, mishra said:

People , Specially Indian who think criminals in India go scott free if they are polticians, need to know that Forget corruption, heinous crimes like paedophylia , rape is not even quested in West if perpetrators is related to Royal family or linked to them.

 

I think US. Is only one which occasionally makes noises against Royalties but are immediately shut down by Western press in name of BLM and racism 

 

A common man suffers at the hand of law in India more often. You buy a property. Builder can loot in many waysm common man can only file a case and wait years. Corporator blocks corporation water so they can make money on water tankers. Roads are nonndriveable in cities. Law does not help in such cases

 It is much better abroad 

[mishra]

1 hour ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said:

 

A common man suffers at the hand of law in India more often. You buy a property. Builder can loot in many waysm common man can only file a case and wait years. Corporator blocks corporation water so they can make money on water tankers. Roads are nonndriveable in cities. Law does not help in such cases

 It is much better abroad 

Think @Muloghonto advocates all the time that solution to this is judiciary. Unless courts are able to provide judgement in time, this problem is not going to go away.

 

Since GoI can’t afford swelled up Judiciary, I believe Digitisation and AI needs to be introduced to judicial system at district court level or when someone tries to take his case in higher courts.

[coffee_rules]

Is the OP Rahul Ghandy?

 

 

What the hell is he saying now. Hum log 24 ghante Jai Shri Ram karte rehte hai.

Tag @INCIndia and say Jai Shri Ram pic.twitter.com/4IpC4ppZWR

— Limited In TIME (@Limitedwithin) February 15, 2024

[Real McCoy]

On 1/23/2024 at 11:17 AM, MechEng said:

C'mon, give up your 200k salary jobs and come back home. Your roots are more important than higher standards of living.

 

Sacrifice your life by getting stuck in Mumbai traffic everyday in the name of Lord Ram. If Modiji endures it, then you should too!

I was not paid 200k, still on H1B but came back more than a decade ago to khangress led govt. I suppose this question wasnt addressed to me As far as standards of living is concerned, its relative. I had a glorious life in India before I went to USA where I felt restricted because of the visa regulations. People are people at the end of the day and I met some real nice people in USA, learnt new philosophies, their way of life, and work ethic. So this is not a slight against the Americans. There are some good and bad attributes in both countries and it depends on where you pitch your tent. Once you've made your decision, you know as they say - quichawhininunbellyaching

[Muloghonto]

3 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

I was not paid 200k, still on H1B but came back more than a decade ago to khangress led govt. I suppose this question wasnt addressed to me As far as standards of living is concerned, its relative. I had a glorious life in India before I went to USA where I felt restricted because of the visa regulations. People are people at the end of the day and I met some real nice people in USA, learnt new philosophies, their way of life, and work ethic. So this is not a slight against the Americans. There are some good and bad attributes in both countries and it depends on where you pitch your tent. Once you've made your decision, you know as they say - quichawhininunbellyaching

His comment is meant more towards me. Because he is the 'house negro' to his liberal western white masters and people like me are colonising his masters and proving in real time that we are better than the ones he holds as an ideal. This is the common reaction of house negroes the world over. as you see in the movie django, the one who had the most problem with Django was the Samuel Jackson character- the house negro. Because here was a negro standing up to his ideal ( the white slavers) and doing fine for himself rejecting the system that the house negro has based his power off of. 

Thats why he is upset at colonialists like me. 

 

[MechEng]

10 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

I was not paid 200k, still on H1B but came back more than a decade ago to khangress led govt. I suppose this question wasnt addressed to me As far as standards of living is concerned, its relative. I had a glorious life in India before I went to USA where I felt restricted because of the visa regulations. People are people at the end of the day and I met some real nice people in USA, learnt new philosophies, their way of life, and work ethic. So this is not a slight against the Americans. There are some good and bad attributes in both countries and it depends on where you pitch your tent. Once you've made your decision, you know as they say - quichawhininunbellyaching

 

You're good, this directed to saffron madrassa uncles who like coffee and are batshit scared to move back to India.