Should Mumbai Delhi Punjab batsman be preferred

[Kron]

19 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

For me personally, it doesn't matter if all XI players of my team are from Assam, Andhra or Andaman. Those who are good should play irrespective of any state quota.

 

I agree but i think its time we open pace academies like mrf everywhere.

[singhvivek141]

5 minutes ago, Kron said:

And tamil nadu for pace bowling. 

 

Good batting and spin talents but andaa in pace

TN for some reason don't have any fascination with pace.

Both their current quicks are basically export from other states (Kerala & MP).

 

There are quicks like Lokesh Raj but no one knows why he is not even considered in the mix for even a single domestic tournament.

 

Natarajan was the last fast bowler from TN who was decentish, but somehow wasn't a long term prospect.

 

 

[singhvivek141]

4 minutes ago, Kron said:

I agree but i think its time we open pace academies like mrf everywhere.

Even if not everywhere then atleast in UP & Rajasthan.

These 2 states are producing most number of quicks and has a long list of talent coming through. Just need a better infrastructure to guide them ahead.

[Kron]

28 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Even if not everywhere then atleast in UP & Rajasthan.

These 2 states are producing most number of quicks and has a long list of talent coming through. Just need a better infrastructure to guide them ahead.

Why are they able to produce such good talented pacers? Why those 2 states? 

What are the other major states lacking? 

 

Mumbai/maharasthra TN andhra delhi all have good facilities. Whats the issue? 

[vvvslaxman]

Pant, Gill - North

Thakur - West

Sundar, Siraj  - South

 

These were the guys who were instrumental in winning the famous Gabba test.  Rohit also played the same test. What did he do?  You look at players not where they come from.

[vvvslaxman]

17 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

TN for some reason don't have any fascination with pace.

Both their current quicks are basically export from other states (Kerala & MP).

 

There are quicks like Lokesh Raj but no one knows why he is not even considered in the mix for even a single domestic tournament.

 

Natarajan was the last fast bowler from TN who was decentish, but somehow wasn't a long term prospect.

 

 

 

In a way it helps fringe fast bowlers from other states  playing more matches.  If TN doesn't produce they can very well import bowlers. What does it matter whether they are from other state.  

[RajBan]

4 hours ago, ungboysj said:

Let's face it our biggest matchwinner in previous generation were Sachin Sehwag Yuvi with honorable mention of Gambhir

 

Current players Rohit Kohli Pant and upcoming Jaiswal Sarfaraj Gill what they have in common all belong or played for Delhi Mumbai Punjab

 

Overall south and other states has produced mediocre or second fiddle batsman

 

Should selectors see this data and select accordingly

 

Even our greatest pacer bumrah is native punjabi and so is greatest all-rounder Kapil dev

What is that pill that you took on Saturday night?

[Gollum]

Wonder why suddenly we are getting so many threads/posts like this?

 

Just won the test series with many positives, IPL coming up, timing is suspicious.

[ungboysj]

2 hours ago, RajBan said:

What is that pill that you took on Saturday night?

Truth pill

[ungboysj]

There is no agenda behind this thread

 

Just fact that batsman from these states are aggressive and matchwinner and this data should be utilised while selecting

 

Australia almost had 100% from NSW at peak

 

Face it some states/community/culture have better talent

 

No need to be ashamed of it

[express bowling]

21 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Even if not everywhere then atleast in UP & Rajasthan.

These 2 states are producing most number of quicks and has a long list of talent coming through. Just need a better infrastructure to guide them ahead.

 

Delhi has the quickest group of pacers in India now.

 

Mayank Y, Harshit, Saini, Himanshu, Simarjeet. 

 

Someone in charge of choosing pacers is doing a good job.  

Edited March 4 by express bowling

[cricspirit]

Troll thread. What is this North South nonsense. 

 

Select based on Talent. Be it North, South, East, West, North-East.

 

This is sports and  not politics. Bullshit this region mentally strong, that region physically strong etc.

 

Sometimes comments are so cringe. Lock this thread.

[Nikhil_cric]

Rohit Sharma and Shreyas Iyer are South Indians. Their genetics don't change just because they grew up in Mumbai. 

 

And both played more impactful knocks in the World Cup than the Punjabi duo of Gill/Kohli .

 

Let's not get into this debate of North/South/East/West

[Kron]

Yes lets not further engage in such convos. Lets not divide our people

[Vijy]

11 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Delhi has the quickest group of pacers in India now.

 

Mayank Y, Harshit, Saini, Himanshu, Simarjeet. 

virtually all of the good quicks now are from N. India.

 

whereas the south keeps producing likes of prasidha

[Kron]

51 minutes ago, Vijy said:

virtually all of the good quicks now are from N. India.

 

whereas the south keeps producing likes of prasidha

After injury pk hasnt looked good. 

Will give him one last chance.

[Muloghonto]

so quotas in sports, this is where we are at now ?

 

[singhvivek141]

15 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Delhi has the quickest group of pacers in India now.

 

Mayank Y, Harshit, Saini, Himanshu, Simarjeet. 

DDCA should be credited that they take a lot of emphasis on developing fast bowlers.

 

Resources wise Rajasthan & UPCA are more blessed, bit the amount of corruption in these states are quite high.

 

Likes of Ashok Sharma, Vishal Godara, Purnank Tyagi, Yogesh Doyla etc are good bowlers who are given raw deal again & again by their state associations for mediocres like Tanveer Ul Haq, Ankit Rajpoot, Aaqib Khan, Kukna Ajay etc. None of whom are international quality. Someone like Karan Sharma has served as UP Ranji Captain for so many years, despite being an utter mediocre performer.

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, Vijy said:

virtually all of the good quicks now are from N. India.

 

whereas the south keeps producing likes of prasidha

 

This often happens due to the person or persons in charge.

 

Bharat Arun created a fierce attack of Siraj, Chama Milind and Ravi for Hyderabad. Either quick or bouncy pacers and all hostile.

 

I think the current Delhi Team has someone influential who likes pace and aggression and hence chooses such pacers. It wasn't the case even a few years back. Look at the Punjab Team. They never choose quick or aggressive pacers. 

 

Karnataka in the 1990s had bowlers of aggressive mentality like Kumble and David Johnson. 

 

Make Bharat Arun or someone similar the bowling coach of a state and that team will have aggressive bowlers.

[singhvivek141]

On 3/3/2024 at 1:15 PM, vvvslaxman said:

 

In a way it helps fringe fast bowlers from other states  playing more matches.  If TN doesn't produce they can very well import bowlers. What does it matter whether they are from other state.  

It does, but problem is captains & coaches in TN don't understand how to groom pitches conducive to fast bowlers. 

 

TN need to develop cricket places like Coimbatore where fast bowlers can thrive due to pleasant weather. Chennai weather is just too harsh on the quicks who are not from this region.

Edited March 4 by singhvivek141