singhvivek141 Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, tapandrun said: Batting SR of Ind WC team :-- Rohit Sharma —139.97 Jaiswal—161.93 Kohli—138.35 Suryakumar—171.55 Rishabh—126.37 Pandya—139.83 Samson—133.09 Dube—145.26 Jadeja—125.32 Axar—144.40 Kuldeep—77.96 Chahal—46.15 Arshdeep—125.92 Bumrah—61.53 Siraj—87.50 So finisher Pant, Pandaya and Jadeja bats with SR Under 140 and Jadeja and Pant below 130. Even Samson is 133 Do not think many runs will be coming in last 4/5 overs with these Finishers and If Rohit and Kolhi at batting in last 3/4 overs its fair to assume they have already eaten up good amount balls. Is Ind even a T20 side.... ?? There are many gaps in the T20 side.. Both Rohit & Kohli batting together is going to be a problem if the pitch is flat. Neither can score at a high SR from ball one, both are weak against spin specially left arm orthodox and has weakness against the left arm pace bringing the ball in. In an ideal world only one of them should have selected in the squad. Pant is a misfit in the T20, he always look out of balance and hence his shots despite trying hard doesn't have the same amount of power which he can generate if his base is strong. I still consider Jitesh as a better T20 player than Pant as he can bat at no 5-6-7 without any issues. Pandya & Jadeja are on a decline...Pandya's hitting ability is gone while Jaddu was never a hitter. Unless we play Axar..our 8-11 will comprise of tailenders. That means once we are 6 wickets down, the other batter has to manage everything by himself. We are hoping here that Arshdeep contributes with the bat as well. Only 3 pacers means we are heavily dependent on our spin. That can be a problem against the Asian sides who has spin smashers in their MO. Also, even the non Asian teams have improved their game vs spin big time. Edited May 1, 2024 by singhvivek141 putrevus and tapandrun 2
Manucrick Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 8 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: let me check the current ICC T20 ranking for bowling. Generally i don't use that much. But it gives an idea about who is playing consistently these days. Rank 4 Axar patrel Rank 5 Bishnoi Rank 20 Arshdeep Rank 24 Kuldeep Rank 49 Chahal Rank 59 Hardik Rank 76 Sundar Rank 77 Siraj Rank 79 Mukesh Where is Jaddu? Does he play T20 at all? Sir 3d not believe in ranking
tapandrun Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 (edited) 15 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: There are many gaps in the T20 side.. Both Rohit & Kohli batting together is going to be a problem if the pitch is flat. Neither can score at a high SR from ball one, both are weak against spin specially left arm orthodox and has weakness against the left arm pace bringing the ball in. In an ideal world only one of them should have selected in the squad. Pant is a misfit in the T20, he always look out of balance and hence his shots despite trying hard doesn't have the same amount of power which he can generate if his base is strong. I still consider Jitesh as a better T20 player than Pant as he can bat at no 5-6-7 without any issues. Pandya & Jadeja are on a decline...Pandya's hitting ability is gone while Jaddu was never a hitter. Unless we play Axar..our 8-11 will comprise of tailenders. That means once we are 6 wickets down, the other batter has to manage everything by himself. We are hoping here that Arshdeep contributes with the bat as well. Only 3 pacers means we are heavily dependent on our spin. That can be a problem against the Asian sides who has spin smashers in their MO. Also, even the non Asian teams have improved their game vs spin big time. Ind always played dated cricket, but t20 is moving v.fast and their dated approaching is costing them. In today's world either they have to have modern t20 shots or have brute power to clear boundaries. which Ind team lacks. Pandaya -he is been found-out he can only hit spinners and he find it hard to hit pacer unless they bowl on his pads where he can flick. Rest even full ball he kind of plays with 3/4 of the bat in the air. Think non-asian teams are better hitters of spin bowling with their sweeps/reverse sweeps and ramps. Donot think Dube will fit into the side, Rohit and Kolhi whould be hopping Jaiswal and Sky are going in 4/5 fifth gear when they are playing with them so that they can do the anchor job as Ind team finisher are also not big hitters themselves. Edited May 1, 2024 by tapandrun
Gollum Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 How have we gone backwards in T20Is? You compare this squad with the 2007 one, hell and heaven difference.
RajBan Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 Chalo. Serious teams like Aus, Eng, NZ can focus on cricket while India team can go to LA and Las Vegas along with their family to have some fun time. First time in my life I am going to hope Pak team thrash these entitled lot and make them look **** which is exactly what they are. Lone Wolf and rollingstoned 2
Lone Wolf Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 16 minutes ago, Gollum said: How have we gone backwards in T20Is? You compare this squad with the 2007 one, hell and heaven difference. Fraud since 2009... I struggle to find another comparison across teams. vvvslaxman, Gollum and Nikhil_cric 1 1 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 For the first time i may root against these clowns. The politicis these morons play to keep each other is disgusting. How many players never got a relook. From Karun Nair to Rinku. They were just dropped and never came back. Will Rinku go that way too? Tripathi , Venky iyer who actually have decent T20 record with India all disappeared. Unless that guy is part of s uperstar franchise they don't get a chance. Ruturaj is not even in discussion let alone getting selection. BCCI knows who has fanbase and who has influence and select based on that.
Gollum Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Fraud since 2009... I struggle to find another comparison across teams. 2009 and 2010 WT20s were unmitigated disasters solely because of this guy. Fraud of the highest order, and now he has BJP backing. Lone Wolf and vvvslaxman 2
Lone Wolf Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 8 minutes ago, Gollum said: 2009 and 2010 WT20s were unmitigated disasters solely because of this guy. Fraud of the highest order, and now he has BJP backing. That England game had me traumatized growing up... One of the worst T20 WC performances ever. People call out even Dhoni Yuvi for 2014 final but this guy has escaped every single time. Only now in 2024 people have started to see reality Gollum 1
Gollum Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: That England game had me traumatized growing up... One of the worst T20 WC performances ever. People call out even Dhoni Yuvi for 2014 final but this guy has escaped every single time. Only now in 2024 people have started to see reality In 2010, he was hit for 6 consecutive 6s across 2 overs, 3 by Watson, 3 by Warner. His 90 SR batting and utter selfishness don't help matters, this guy is so selfish and stats obsessed that he will choose his not out over winning a WC final, and he will run out each of his partners but never sacrifice his wicket. Lone Wolf and vvvslaxman 2
Norman Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 58 minutes ago, RajBan said: First time in my life I am going to hope Pak team thrash these entitled lot and make them look **** which is exactly what they are Same lol.. But the sad thing is they themselves are horse crap now and our chewtiyas will probably beat them comfortably and feel like they have won the wc with that stupid "Chak de India" song playing post match in New York. Only to bend down to England or Australia when it matters the most. Gollum and Manucrick 2
Gollum Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, Norman said: Same lol.. But the sad thing is they themselves are horse crap now and our chewtiyas will probably beat them comfortably and feel like they have won the wc with that stupid "Chak de India" song playing post match in New York. Only to bend down to England or Australia when it matters the most. Super 8 will be based on pre-touney seeding. So we'll be in a group with NZ, Aus, Lanka in Super 8s......tough to even qualify for SF. In present form Aus and NZ are better than Eng, RSA.
Gollum Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 Don't care if we crash out in group stage, but don't lose to Pakistan. Their fans on SM are unbearable, also can't forget their torrent of bigotry post 2021 Dubai. Lone Wolf 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Gollum said: Don't care if we crash out in group stage, but don't lose to Pakistan. Their fans on SM are unbearable, also can't forget their torrent of bigotry post 2021 Dubai. It may well happen. They have two left arm seamer this time. Drop in pitches. Two known chokers against that kind of bowling regardless of quality.
putrevus Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 India will be just fine batting wise if the bowling does anything then India has a good chance like any other team. The defending t20 champs lost to fricking Zimbabwe so let us not make them as some unbeatable team.
LordPrabhzy Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 19 minutes ago, Gollum said: Don't care if we crash out in group stage, but don't lose to Pakistan. Their fans on SM are unbearable, also can't forget their torrent of bigotry post 2021 Dubai. not sure how thats possible- for that to happen we would need to lose to Canada and USA and win against Pak?
Gollum Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 Just now, LordPrabhzy said: not sure how thats possible- for that to happen we would need to lose to Canada and USA and win against Pak? Sorry I meant exit from the Super 8s. That too is a group stage, 4 teams each in 2 groups.
RajBan Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 27 minutes ago, Norman said: Same lol.. But the sad thing is they themselves are horse crap now and our chewtiyas will probably beat them comfortably and feel like they have won the wc with that stupid "Chak de India" song playing post match in New York. Only to bend down to England or Australia when it matters the most. That's the problem. Pakistan will screw this time as well.
Nikhil_cric Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 11 minutes ago, putrevus said: India will be just fine batting wise if the bowling does anything then India has a good chance like any other team. The defending t20 champs lost to fricking Zimbabwe so let us not make them as some unbeatable team. When did England lose to Zimbabwe ?
Gollum Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 Pak T20I team peaked in 2021-22. Right now should be easy to beat them, even with our faltu XI. Lone Wolf 1
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