Why can't Pakistan ever win an ICC tournament undefeated?

[Dil Dil India]

As they are the most talented nation with fast bowlers, why do they always have to rely on losing and then permutations and combinations? Will they ever win undefeated?

[diga]

They have been lucky for too long ...  

[neel roy]

20 minutes ago, diga said:

They have been lucky for too long ...  

too lucky too long

1992 : Rain

2017 : Bumrah no ball and kohli decided to bowl

2021 :SF :  dew and toss against india

2022 : Finals: Netherlands beating saf

 

only in 1999 WC they played well but lost to india in group stage.

Also in 2010 t20 w cup they were good. Similar was 2007 t20 they mucked up against India twice from winning position. 

[Laaloo]

Luck eventually runs out 

[Singh bling]

9 minutes ago, neel roy said:

too lucky too long

1992 : Rain

2017 : Bumrah no ball and kohli decided to bowl

2021 :SF :  dew and toss against india

2022 : Finals: Netherlands beating saf

 

only in 1999 WC they played well but lost to india in group stage.

Also in 2010 t20 w cup they were good. Similar was 2007 t20 they mucked up against India twice from winning position. 

In 1999 they lost to BD in group stages. They lost to india, South Africa in super six

 

In 2010 cup they were very bad. Lost against England, New Zealand. But last game was against choker Africa and even after that NZ was unable to defeat England. 

[Singh bling]

Because there is some Aussie waiting for them to do impossible task

[neel roy]

12 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

In 1999 they lost to BD in group stages. They lost to india, South Africa in super six

 

In 2010 cup they were very bad. Lost against England, New Zealand. But last game was against choker Africa and even after that NZ was unable to defeat England. 

India lost to Zimbabwe after being in winning position in 1999. Though Zimbabwe of 1999 were pretty good. In 1998 they won a test series away at Pakistan lol with all their phast bowlers present. 

[Tillu]

They will stop comparing themselves with us once we start winning more and more tournaments. We need to increase the gap with respect to the number of tournaments won. Then all these comparisons will stop. We should first aim to beat Australia.

[deathmonger]

5 minutes ago, Tillu said:

They will stop comparing themselves with us once we start winning more and more tournaments. We need to increase the gap with respect to the number of tournaments won. Then all these comparisons will stop. We should first aim to beat Australia.

that is their biggest fear.

 

imagine if you leave a startup to build your own startup and that startup becomes a huge company but you are still struggling.

 

a lot of pakistanis have admitted it too.

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/osman-samiuddin-meekened-pakistan-still-waiting-to-prick-india-s-bubble-830669

 

 

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Pakistan may have always had wonky governance, but the country was once seen, not least in its own eyes, as more vibrant than the slower behemoth that was India, which was still an idea waiting for its time to come.

 

By the time Mohali came round, the existing order was overturned. Now it is India riding high over Pakistan - its economy, democracy, the IPL, Bollywood, its cricketers.

 

The only consolation for Pakistanis - and boy, don't they make sure Indians know it - is that India have yet to taste the true and exquisite poison of the crazy-diamond fast bowler.

 

We have now - the greatest Asian fast bowler of all time - Jasprit Bumrah

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/aug/14/india.features116

 

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Earlier this year, while in Delhi for a writers' conference, I met one of my compatriots from across the border. "It's such a relief, isn't it?" he said. "Coming to India and discovering that, despite the hype of the past couple of years, it's still just another inefficient, dirty, third-world country like ours." The subtext was clear: a truly shining India would make Pakistan feel very dim by comparison.

 

Since then, India has now 2X Pakistan pci and 12X GDP.

[deathmonger]

42 minutes ago, neel roy said:

too lucky too long

1992 : Rain

2017 : Bumrah no ball and kohli decided to bowl

2021 :SF :  dew and toss against india

2022 : Finals: Netherlands beating saf

 

only in 1999 WC they played well but lost to india in group stage.

Also in 2010 t20 w cup they were good. Similar was 2007 t20 they mucked up against India twice from winning position. 

21 and 22 they didn't win.

 

if we add semis and finals appearances, it will be too long.

[neel roy]

8 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

21 and 22 they didn't win.

 

if we add semis and finals appearances, it will be too long.

Thats exactly my point. Even their sf and final appearance is filled with luck. 

[Gollum]

Same reason they can't win an Olympic medal.

 

Largest country to not win Olympic medal in 

1996 Atlanta

2000 Sydney

2004 Athens

2008 Beijing

2012 London

2016 Rio

2021 Tokyo

 

War ravaged countries like Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia are winning. As are lilliput countries like Grenada, Liechtenstein, San Marino. 

 

This is the most shameful record in all of sports. Add East Pakistan also, never won an Olympic medal. Combined 450 million population.

[Lone Wolf]

After Bhajji now Parthiv also roasting Gobar Azam and Maulana...

@Gollum

@the don @Chaos

Pakistani are in meltdown mode

 

[Ultimate_Game]

Pak can't even get past group stages without luck - rain, upsets etc. and you're expecting them to win a tourney by remaining unbeaten! 

[deathmonger]

45 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

After Bhajji now Parthiv also roasting Gobar Azam and Maulana...

@Gollum

@the don @Chaos

Pakistani are in meltdown mode

 

shaheen fans are calling babar **** and comparing with kohli.

 

babar fans are calling shaheen **** and comparing to bumrah.

 

good times

 

[Ultimate_Game]

57 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

After Bhajji now Parthiv also roasting Gobar Azam and Maulana...

@Gollum

@the don @Chaos

Pakistani are in meltdown mode

 

 

Parthiv Patel throwing truth bombs 

[Lord]

Qudrat ka Nizaam aise hi hota hai. 

[Dil Dil India]

19 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

After Bhajji now Parthiv also roasting Gobar Azam and Maulana...

@Gollum

@the don @Chaos

Pakistani are in meltdown mode

 

Gobar azam must be called out on his stats. I wish someone influential with a lot of followers could pick up on the stat that this mediocre Zimbabwe nepal basher averages 38 in tests outside of rawalpindi and karachi!!! Axar Patel is a better batsman than Gobar outside of roads.

[Dil Dil India]

19 hours ago, Gollum said:

Same reason they can't win an Olympic medal.

 

Largest country to not win Olympic medal in 

1996 Atlanta

2000 Sydney

2004 Athens

2008 Beijing

2012 London

2016 Rio

2021 Tokyo

 

War ravaged countries like Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia are winning. As are lilliput countries like Grenada, Liechtenstein, San Marino. 

 

This is the most shameful record in all of sports. Add East Pakistan also, never won an Olympic medal. Combined 450 million population.

Wow didn't know that Afg Syria etc were outperforming greenbros at Olympics. And ironically they are the first to boast about their physical prowess lol

[singhvivek141]

23 hours ago, Dil Dil India said:

As they are the most talented nation with fast bowlers, why do they always have to rely on losing and then permutations and combinations? Will they ever win undefeated?

To win any trophy Chokeristan has 4 minimum criteria's

 

1. Bottle cups

2. Chuckers 

3. Fixers

4. Kudrat ka Nizam

 

If any ofthee above is missing..they aren't going to win anything

 

Edited July 2, 2024 by singhvivek141