Paris Olympics 2024 Discussion Thread

[rkt.india]

Just now, Kron said:

India has a huge pool of genetics. There,are many tall ones, strong ones and short ones..

 

What Indians dont have is sport iq

Jatts have the highest steppe genes. Jatts form large population in both punjab and haryana.

[Singh bling]

3 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

Veg/Non-Veg Diet is not the problem for Indian sports, Poverty is. Until a generation ago 90% Indians weren't able to afford even boiled eggs on a daily basis forget eating expensive Nonveg diet regularly. 

 

Haryana and Punjab are the 2 most successful Indian states when it comes to sports despite having about 70% Vegetarian population. The reason is they were relatively richer than all other states in the past century or so. 

 

Please read milkha singh biography hardly anything rich. Infact guy lost his family 1947 riots. If being rich owning 2-3 buffaloes then yes they were rich.

 

The fact is that region is genetically blessed

[AuxiliA]

India can only do so much in sports being a poor 2900$ per capita country. Our sports infrastructure (infact all infrastructure) is lightyears behind developed countries, especially in terms of Quality. 

 

Also, we don't have social security like the West, for sports to be a viable career option for the majority yet. Add to that our Socialistic politics and a corrupt & inept sports administration one can understand why we underachieve in sports. 

 

Indian sports will get better as Indians get richer and improve their overall standard of living. The growing Economy will have a trickle down effect. Until the 1970's China was behind India (& even Pak!) when it came to winning medals at Olympics and Asian games.

[Kron]

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Jatts have the highest steppe genes. Jatts form large population in both punjab and haryana.

Jatts/

Punjabi

Tamils rural ones. Cholan empire genetics run deep. 

Telugu people

Maratha rural ones

Kerelites on rural areas

 

All have good genes. Plenty of tough strong guys there.

[deathmonger]

31 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

If you don't believe in biology then I nothing to add, Koreans lack muscle mass but they have high iq and fast twitch fibers.

 

Indians are not only small but also very unathletic and slow,maybe north east guys have a better chance as they look more athletic, though they are also of a smaller size .

"Smallness" will reduce with wealth.

[Singh bling]

51 minutes ago, New guy said:

Diet has 100% been shown to increase size, height and strength over generations. I just gave you the example in 1960, before the industrial revolutions complete effect,  the average height of Americans male was 5 7, not much different than the countries you mention. With better diet over generations today it's near 5 11. 

 

We can "afford" to turn vegan etc when the country is richer and healthier and has many options. Most people in India don't. Eggs are one the cheapest and best sources of protein

American height was 5-8" in 1960s and now 5-9" no huge increase

 

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2018/12/20/us-adults-arent-getting-taller-but-they-are-getting-heavier/#:~:text=More than 5%2C000 U.S. adults,more than 30 pounds heavier.

 

 

[jf1gp_1]

2 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

India can only do so much in sports being a poor 2900$ per capita country. Our sports infrastructure (infact all infrastructure) is lightyears behind developed countries, especially in terms of Quality. 

 

Also, we don't have social security like the West, for sports to be a viable career option for the majority yet. Add to that our Socialistic politics and a corrupt & inept sports administration one can understand why we underachieve in sports. 

 

Indian sports will get better as Indians get richer and improve their overall standard of living. The growing Economy will have a trickle down effect. Until the 1970's China was behind India (& even Pak!) when it came to winning medals at Olympics and Asian games.

 

Completely in agreement. Our medal count increase will be proportional to per capital income increase.  

[New guy]

2 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

"Smallness" will reduce with wealth.

Because wealth gives access to better nutrition. However the point is, we already have cheap nutritious food like egg

[deathmonger]

1 minute ago, New guy said:

Because wealth gives access to better nutrition. However the point is, we already have cheap nutritious food like egg

Yes, that should be given in mid day meals

[New guy]

Excellent discussion but any updates on actual matches happening today so far? Our rower did great in repunache and qualified for quater finals. 

[randomGuy]

Ramita Jindal through to the final. Valarivan misses out.

 

10m air rifle Final tomorrow 1pm

[Singh bling]

1 hour ago, Sandz said:

There are no vegetarians in Pakistan or Bangladesh, hence they win tons of Olympics medals.

 

Eating meat clearly isn’t the issue.

You need genetics ,diet, infrastructure and hardwork to succeed. Missing one of them will have huge impact.

[neel roy]

No food diet eggs spinach or kela can get rid of mental midgetary.. Elavenil shoots a 103.8 in her sixth and last series to finish with 630.7 and drop out of top 8, placed 10th currently. She was 4th after round 4. 

[deathmonger]

elanavil missed at the end just like sarabjot.

[deepdynamo]

10M AIR RIFLE WOMEN'S QUALIFICATION
Ramita qualified for the final finishing 5th while Elavenil came agonizingly close finishing 10th!

 

Top 8 qualified for the final.

[Singh bling]

6 minutes ago, New guy said:

Because wealth gives access to better nutrition. However the point is, we already have cheap nutritious food like egg

Gujarati's are wealthy still very high malnutrition.

[New guy]

1 minute ago, Singh bling said:

Gujarati's are wealthy still very high malnutrition.

You know why, extremely limited diet because of cultural and religious beliefs. I know so many Jain's etc from there who don't even eat cauliflower, mushroom, carrots. 

Edited July 28, 2024 by New guy

[neel roy]

1 minute ago, deepdynamo said:

10M AIR RIFLE WOMEN'S QUALIFICATION
Ramita qualified for the final finishing 5th while Elavenil came agonizingly close finishing 10th!

 

Top 8 qualified for the final.

Agonizingly bad. She was 4th. Became 10th. Rubbish

[Gollum]

Valarivan choked, she was leading at one point

 

Jindal saves the day, please medal tomorrow 

[AuxiliA]

3 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Please read milkha singh biography hardly anything rich. Infact guy lost his family 1947 riots. If being rich owning 2-3 buffaloes then yes they were rich.

 

The fact is that region is genetically blessed

 

That's why I said 'relatively'. 

 

When Milkha Singh was a kid there were millions dying of hunger in the rest of the country. Mothers were feeding their amputated limbs to their children, the food security was so dire!

 

That region is 'genetically blessed' because it was relatively richer in the last few centuries. They had the best agriculture in the country. 

 

It's prosperity and food security that builds healthy 'genetics' over generations. Look at the Europeans. Until a couple of centuries ago they were the same height as Asians and now are half a foot taller.