Gollum Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 14 minutes ago, New guy said: Sri lankans and their hatred of Sachin, lol. He is Indian dude, from Tamil Nadu. Just messing with you guys. Link to comment
Praveen 06 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) 35 minutes ago, New guy said: Sachin averages more overseas, he averaged 65 in England in his prime and at retirement he averaged 54 in England which is 5 more than roots career average at his prime today. England mediocre team in 90s Edited July 28 by Praveen 06 Link to comment
New guy Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 21 minutes ago, Praveen 06 said: England mediocre team in 90s Ah, ok. So what's the excuse for root not even averaging 50 today in his prime? Link to comment
New guy Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 23 minutes ago, Gollum said: He is Indian dude, from Tamil Nadu. Just messing with you guys. I have always called him Sri Lankan from day 1. Same thing as people calling laalo Pakistani. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Praveen 06 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 minute ago, New guy said: Ah, ok. So what's the excuse for root not even averaging 50 today in his prime? I didn't say root better batsman than sachin. Link to comment
Gollum Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Root not in Sachin class but definitely an ATG. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Sanga on Root surpassing him and Potentially Sachin https://youtu.be/6kfcghXmqfQ?si=IPzJCyT9ZXNOUaoY Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 5 hours ago, New guy said: Ah, ok. So what's the excuse for root not even averaging 50 today in his prime? because he plays against aussie and indian bowlers Link to comment
Lord Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 After a certain number of Tests, average and performance in all conditions matter much more than just runs. Steve Smith will remain way above Root as Test batter. Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 11 minutes ago, Lord said: After a certain number of Tests, average and performance in all conditions matter much more than just runs. Steve Smith will remain way above Root as Test batter. Steve Smith is the best batsman of this generation. Almost an immovable object and always difficult to get out. Out of the Big 4 of this generation it is Smith > Kohli > Root > Williamson. Root can never be in the top 2 with that atrocious record in Aus. As for Williamson, he simply hasn't done as much as the others. Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 13 hours ago, ungboysj said: What a joke Dravid is most overrated bat of all time Root is a matchwinner Fact is batsman played slowly in 90s in tests esp against good bowlers so lower average for bowlers Further india had rellay flat tracks during Sachin to pump Indian batting averages Root is much better than Dravid If you're comparing Tendulkar, Root and Dravid, it's SRT >> Root > Dravid. Dravid has had a couple of knocks such as that famous knock against Aus supporting Laxman's 281, and his knock against Aus in Adelaide where Agarkar's 6-fer won us the tourney. But Dravid mostly played a second fiddle to Laxman or Tendulkar his entire career. In ODIs Dravid as a batsman was never a difference maker but his true utility was when Ganguly played him as a wkt keeper. He was way better than other wkt keeper-batsmen we had at the time and lent us depth, balance and ability to bat till 7 before Dhoni came on to the scene and changed Indian cricket forever. We haven't looked back since from the dark days of keepers like Mongia, Ratra, Dahiya etc. Overall, Root is closer to Dravid than Tendulkar in terms of impact, i.e. never the most impactful batsman but someone the team relied on. Link to comment
Lord Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 5 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: If you're comparing Tendulkar, Root and Dravid, it's SRT >> Root > Dravid. Dravid has had a couple of knocks such as that famous knock against Aus supporting Laxman's 281, and his knock against Aus in Adelaide where Agarkar's 6-fer won us the tourney. But Dravid mostly played a second fiddle to Laxman or Tendulkar his entire career. In ODIs Dravid as a batsman was never a difference maker but his true utility was when Ganguly played him as a wkt keeper. He was way better than other wkt keeper-batsmen we had at the time and lent us depth, balance and ability to bat till 7 before Dhoni came on to the scene and changed Indian cricket forever. We haven't looked back since from the dark days of keepers like Mongia, Ratra, Dahiya etc. Overall, Root is closer to Dravid than Tendulkar in terms of impact, i.e. never the most impactful batsman but someone the team relied on. He was the crisis man at his peak. Would regularly save from collapses in both formats. Root is better though. Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 minute ago, Lord said: He was the crisis man at his peak. Would regularly save from collapses in both formats. Root is better though. Yup. As I mentioned I would pick Root if I had to pick between Dravid and Root. The only thing which made Dravid competitive was his decision to keep wkts in ODIs. If he didn't do that he probably would've been sidelined much earlier. Root is unfortunate he's playing in the era where English white-ball team redefined the way short format cricket should be played. Else Root would've played all the formats and he probably would've played across formats for most of the teams. Lord 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Won't get to bat in the 2nd innings Lord, Real McCoy and Ultimate_Game 2 1 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 3 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: If you're comparing Tendulkar, Root and Dravid, it's SRT >> Root > Dravid. Dravid has had a couple of knocks such as that famous knock against Aus supporting Laxman's 281, and his knock against Aus in Adelaide where Agarkar's 6-fer won us the tourney. But Dravid mostly played a second fiddle to Laxman or Tendulkar his entire career. In ODIs Dravid as a batsman was never a difference maker but his true utility was when Ganguly played him as a wkt keeper. He was way better than other wkt keeper-batsmen we had at the time and lent us depth, balance and ability to bat till 7 before Dhoni came on to the scene and changed Indian cricket forever. We haven't looked back since from the dark days of keepers like Mongia, Ratra, Dahiya etc. Overall, Root is closer to Dravid than Tendulkar in terms of impact, i.e. never the most impactful batsman but someone the team relied on. Tendulkar >> Dravid >>>>>>>>> Root. Dravid averaged 57+ during his peak and faced far greater quality bowling than Root has done. Root is also a big fat zero in ODIs and T20s. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Root's a soft player, failed consistently on some of our turners & also flat decks! Is a big fat f*** down under & generally bullies weak teams like no tomorrow Link to comment
ungboysj Posted July 28 Author Share Posted July 28 Intellectual bankruptcy of posters here is so much Just because you don't follow other teams doesn't mean all indians bats are best ever DRavid was a nothing bat He always needed Sachin or sehwag or laxman to win the match He could very rarely put india in winning position by himself Failed in south africa and Australia always other than 2003 An AVG bat at best Root has already played many match winning innings in tests Also he is better odi bat than Dravid . Only that he hasn't played much still has fabulous numbers Link to comment
Majestic Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 16 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Root's a soft player, failed consistently on some of our turners & also flat decks! Is a big fat f*** down under & generally bullies weak teams like no tomorrow Yeah like he bullied Bumrah and Siraj in 2022 test series vs India. Root - 750 runs Rohit - 360 runs KLR - 320 runs Rest below 300. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 In which tests? The series which we on 2-1 or the one where we didn't play the first choice 11 in that one off test Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Just a reminder, Root batted first in 12(13?) of those games Primary team England or India Opposition team England or India Host country India Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2010 Qualifications scores of fifty or more greater than or equal to 5 http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruRemove.gif Ordered by batting average (descending) Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s YBK Jaiswal (IND) 2024-2024 5 9 1 712 214* 89.00 891 79.91 2 3 0 68 26 V Kohli (IND) 2012-2021 13 21 3 1015 235 56.38 1983 51.18 3 4 2 116 1 AN Cook (ENG) 2012-2016 9 18 1 931 190 54.76 2125 43.81 4 1 0 105 3 CA Pujara (IND) 2012-2021 13 21 2 972 206* 51.15 2026 47.97 4 2 1 117 2 RG Sharma (IND) 2021-2024 9 16 1 745 161 49.66 1218 61.16 3 2 0 91 12 JE Root (ENG) 2012-2024 15 30 2 1272 218 45.42 2511 50.65 3 6 0 124 5 Shubman Gill (IND) 2021-2024 9 16 2 571 110 40.78 977 58.44 2 3 4 60 14 R Ashwin (IND) 2012-2024 18 26 2 854 106 35.58 1673 51.04 1 6 2 103 5 Z Crawley (ENG) 2021-2024 7 14 0 474 79 33.85 725 65.37 0 5 2 65 6 BA Stokes (ENG) 2016-2024 14 28 1 747 128 27.66 1510 49.47 1 4 1 85 12 Link to comment
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