Bangladesh PM Sheikh Hasina resigns and fled to India

[zen]

It is better to focus on the issue at hand without bringing political interest/affiliation into the mix! 
 

At the end of the day, people in India tend to move away based on anti-incumbency.
 

Every major party has its time. Those in fashion become outdated, those out of fashion, become the latest trend. 
 

Even politicians and party supporters switch allegiances based on self interest. Voters fluctuate and understand the need to drive a change. 

 

Unless you are yourself standing up for elections, you need to remain more or less neutral on political parties.
 

Today’s heroes can turn into villains. See what happened to many diehard Kejriwal supporters, who may now be feeling that they wasted their time. 
 

In short, better to focus on the issue without thinking politics! 

[zen]

If Modi is praised, it must be BJP supporters.

 

If Modi is criticized, it must be Congress (or an opposition party) supporters. 
 

In almost every field, we slots ourselves into groups like a programmed sheep. Then we look to praise that group, hide its shortcomings, and tend to miss the forest for the trees.

 

In such an atmosphere, it would get difficult to give or get an honest opinion. 
 

 

Edited September 8, 2024 by zen

[mishra]

6 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

That is la la land level mindset that everything is all good.

Paxtan is still a threat as ever 

As they have locked us completely on western front.

 

The day US establishes control (& it will)on St. Martin's Island in Bay of Bengal it is Good bye time.

 

The amount of Shatrubodh lacking in Hindus these days is shocking to say the least.

That's what happens when you blindly support a party or a person 

 

Common sense. Does US sees  China or Iindia as its pottential adversary? Chinese are already in Bay of Bengsl via Mysnmar. So, realistically, whose fight is it more in St Martins Island. India vs US Or US vs China?

 

Edited September 8, 2024 by mishra

[Muloghonto]

11 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

That is la la land level mindset that everything is all good.

Paxtan is still a threat as ever 

As they have locked us completely on western front.

 

The day US establishes control (& it will)on St. Martin's Island in Bay of Bengal it is Good bye time.

 

The amount of Shatrubodh lacking in Hindus these days is shocking to say the least.

That's what happens when you blindly support a party or a person 

 

 

Incorrect. the day US establishes control over St. Martin's island is the day USA finally seals its death warrant. Because base in St Martins is also a huge threat to China and USA will be giving India and China strong geo-political incentives to cooperate over a common threat. 

This is why Indian establishment hasnt gone 'oh sheeeeeeeeeeet' to this whole St Martin's talk. 

You all keep forgetting that in THIS new cold war 2.0, India is not a mute bystander, we are the swing vote. Both China and USA knows, that they are totall *ed if India becomes either fully subservient to or allied to the other 100%. 
Yes, both also want to deny India a seat at the table and want to keep India down. But neither side wants to give India a lot of 'common ground' with the other. 

This is the calculus being played here. 
St Martin's island is the poison pill. question is, will the US swallow it. 

 

[coffee_rules]

Signs of 240 and BJP is losing Hindu support in Gujarat. 
 

 

 

Scenes similar to BD in India. 

[zen]

3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Signs of 240 and BJP is losing Hindu support in Gujarat. 
 

 

 

Scenes similar to BD in India. 

As I said, in Gujarat, people are angry at politicians and political parties for a variety of reasons. 
 

The concept that they have to stand up for a party whether it is right or wrong is slowly diminishing. People are being more and more critical of those that they voted for if they fail to deliver.

In some areas, politicians are asked to not enter the area. 

 

[mishra]

13 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Signs of 240 and BJP is losing Hindu support in Gujarat. 
 

 

 

Scenes similar to BD in India. 

ACtion taken. Widen the Road and get rid of encroachment.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/anti-encroachment-drive-in-surat-area-that-witnessed-stone-pelting-at-ganesh-pandal/articleshow/113197280.cms

 

Everyone has encroached the government land which government is trying to free. Offcourse it has to take emergency and priority  action if people living on the encroached land start creating ruckus and disturb communal harmony

Edited September 9, 2024 by mishra

[straighttalk]

On 9/7/2024 at 8:09 AM, zen said:

Exactly, there is always an excuse to tuck the tail and run away.
 

And when it suits them, ppl would claim that India is the 5th economically strongest country based on “GDP” with its defence budget being higher than many countries’ GDP. So depending upon the agenda, it becomes rich (chest thumping) or poor (when it actually needs to put its hand up to take an action on the ground)!
 

In the past, people have said not to do anything to Pakistan as it does notable “trade” with India. Pakistan even had the “most favoured nation” status. India expected itself to tolerate Pakistan as from Pakistan it could make some money.

Even in India, there is Hindu solidarity till a life and death situation arises and then a Hindu stops being a Hindu but someone from state X or caste Y or neighbourhood Z or so on.

India’s brand tagline could well be “strong when nothing is at stake, weak when something is at stake”.

 

Such selfish, formulaic, and blatant behavior is becoming laughable but in a sad way! 
 

First your overestimate Indias military or financial capability. 80 percent of our population live in filth... We cannot provide basic medical education or livelihood. Second we cannot even militarily rout Pakistan when they are quite weak. We will win a war but at severe cost.

 

Avoiding war is the smartest decision. Going to war is a last resort only when it benefits India. What you are saying is India should risk their lives their economy to protect Bangladesh Hindus for what *ing reason..have you not seen what us and Russia experienced in Afghanistan and Vietnam and now Ukraine..and you think our corrupt govt and weak military will win a war on riverine marshy densely populated Bangladesh with China and Pakistan supporting them. And I ask again for what reason..what do you gain .protecting 200 people .there is no state supported genocide...it is similar to the BJP sponsored riots in India..even lesser than that...where some islamist or hinduvta party riles up gullible and unemployed youths to kill people on the basis of their religion and culture ..it will subside on their own...so no no one other than you wants to go to war for no *ing reason..did they attack India..did they invade India..did they send terrorists to India..nothing...so we have better things to do than having wet dreams of invading another country to save religion..religion is bs..has zero meaning ...if you are spiritual..you believe in God and realize killing another human being in yhe name of religion is evil 

[straighttalk]

On 8/8/2024 at 4:48 AM, coffee_rules said:

Words of wisdom from a snowflake. Whenever there is targeted genocidal violence happening against Hindus,  aajate hain gyaan pelne that all religions are same pos gyaan. Na bhai, not all religions are same. There is no religion still on this gola , that still believes  in 8th century scriptures , and practices it when they are in mere majority, except one. Any amount of monkey balancing and whataboutry doesn’t make it rational to say it. You will not get a peace prize award from your friends for say such BS.

Agree that Christians have moved on from medieval barbarism in these days but we have Jihadis committing terrorism and cow vigilantes lynching people for their beliefs, ..one is well established..the other is just starting..not too long when the latter takes the same scale..may not be stupid enough to do suicide bombing but certainly rabid enough to commit genocide and kill people of other religions. So no amount of your hate mongering will make me want to spoil Hinduism and India's name as you call for killing innocent Muslims. If you want to arrest and punish terrorist or Islamic fundamentalist..then I support you but get the Hindu jihadis along with them to jail.

[straighttalk]

On 8/8/2024 at 4:48 AM, coffee_rules said:

Words of wisdom from a snowflake. Whenever there is targeted genocidal violence happening against Hindus,  aajate hain gyaan pelne that all religions are same pos gyaan. Na bhai, not all religions are same. There is no religion still on this gola , that still believes  in 8th century scriptures , and practices it when they are in mere majority, except one. Any amount of monkey balancing and whataboutry doesn’t make it rational to say it. You will not get a peace prize award from your friends for say such BS.

Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. These acts fall into five categories:

 

Killing members of the group

 

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group

 

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part

 

Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

 

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

 

 

Per the above definition of Genocide...there is no targeted killing of Hindus..Muslims were killed in larger numbers. Most Hindus were targeted for being Awami supporters. The violence was sporadic and no like Gujarat or Ayodhya riots or the Sikh massacre in Delhi. This was widespread political violence.  So it does not fit the genocide definition 

I understand either due to ignorance or more malevolent intentions...the Hindu media is hell bent on painting it as genocide..but nothing of that sort is happening. Just like India is getting labeled as rape capital and pretty soon the beef killers..it is of the same scale and same labeling.

 

And yes there are rabid Islamic fanatics who commit atrocities. Similarly there are rabid Hindu idiots who kill people in the name of religion. Our religion is more peaceful ..we are more educated. Calling for crimes and spreading hatred against a community doesn't make us stronger .it makes us equally uncouth and savage as them.

[zen]

12 minutes ago, straighttalk said:

First your overestimate Indias military or financial capability. 80 percent of our population live in filth... We cannot provide basic medical education or livelihood. Second we cannot even militarily rout Pakistan when they are quite weak. We will win a war but at severe cost.

 

Avoiding war is the smartest decision. Going to war is a last resort only when it benefits India. What you are saying is India should risk their lives their economy to protect Bangladesh Hindus for what *ing reason..have you not seen what us and Russia experienced in Afghanistan and Vietnam and now Ukraine..and you think our corrupt govt and weak military will win a war on riverine marshy densely populated Bangladesh with China and Pakistan supporting them. And I ask again for what reason..what do you gain .protecting 200 people .there is no state supported genocide...it is similar to the BJP sponsored riots in India..even lesser than that...where some islamist or hinduvta party riles up gullible and unemployed youths to kill people on the basis of their religion and culture ..it will subside on their own...so no no one other than you wants to go to war for no *ing reason..did they attack India..did they invade India..did they send terrorists to India..nothing...so we have better things to do than having wet dreams of invading another country to save religion..religion is bs..has zero meaning ...if you are spiritual..you believe in God and realize killing another human being in yhe name of religion is evil 

Why are we talking about a war? I want the Indian embassy in BD to provide a safe environment to the Hindus (means already discussed), and for those who want to move out, provide them with a safe passage to India by air, water, and land (Ind has closed its borders).

[straighttalk]

On 9/7/2024 at 11:48 AM, coffee_rules said:

people are getting lynched in villages , not urban political Hindus with Awami league. Get your head out of the sand. Oh, we should not disturb the peace in BD as if they will pick only Hindus with AL and lynch and rape them. What about temples being destroyed? Were they part of Awami League too? 

How many HINDUS died in this violence? Millions..thousands..hundreds.. 10 ...at what number is it time enough to send our men to die to protect citizens of other countries...at what time do we decide..that it is good enough to kill millions of innocent Muslims to avenge the death of 10 foreigners to satiate our blood lust...because we are a nation of war mongering savages as our history has shown..at what point is it good enough for you - the fundamentalist section of Hinduism to kill murder and rape Muslim men women and children to solve the real *ing problems plaguing this country...at what point your thuggery is enough to fool the improverished people and the pathetic state of 80 percent of the country

[Muloghonto]

33 minutes ago, straighttalk said:

How many HINDUS died in this violence? Millions..thousands..hundreds.. 10 ...at what number is it time enough to send our men to die to protect citizens of other countries...at what time do we decide..that it is good enough to kill millions of innocent Muslims to avenge the death of 10 foreigners to satiate our blood lust...because we are a nation of war mongering savages as our history has shown..at what point is it good enough for you - the fundamentalist section of Hinduism to kill murder and rape Muslim men women and children to solve the real *ing problems plaguing this country...at what point your thuggery is enough to fool the improverished people and the pathetic state of 80 percent of the country

We are not a nation of warmongering savages as history has shown. That is western nations. 

There is a very clear cut example of why your type of SJW nonsense is retarded. In the 1970s, at height of PLO power, PLO would get away with threatening USA/UK beurocrats stationed in Lebanon coz, well, what are you gonna do about ' Ola uber' threats in a country full of Ola-ubers ?

Then they did the same to Soviet diplomats and the Soviet attache in Damascus calmly called Arafat and told him the exact current location of his family and that of his second in command and how many brothers and sisters are in which village of Palestine. They got the hint. Never threatened a soviet official again. 

 

Islam formally and officially calls itself the enemy of Hinduism and all paganism and formally and officially calls for their genocide - cultural or physical. So we are not obligated to accomodate Islam and Islamism until they modify their book and take out kufrphobia from it. 

 

[Muloghonto]

41 minutes ago, zen said:

Why are we talking about a war? I want the Indian embassy in BD to provide a safe environment to the Hindus (means already discussed), and for those who want to move out, provide them with a safe passage to India by air, water, and land (Ind has closed its borders).

 

No, that is foolish. What we should want and what we are seeing popping up in Bangladesh, is demand for a second partition for hindus. 5 hindu-majority districts are being talked about for the partition plan. 

Why should we hindus leave our homeland to accomodate jaahil arbi faith of a mass murdering warlord pdf-file ?

 

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, straighttalk said:

Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. These acts fall into five categories:

 

Killing members of the group

 

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group

 

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part

 

Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

 

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

 

 

Per the above definition of Genocide...there is no targeted killing of Hindus..Muslims were killed in larger numbers. Most Hindus were targeted for being Awami supporters. The violence was sporadic and no like Gujarat or Ayodhya riots or the Sikh massacre in Delhi. This was widespread political violence.  So it does not fit the genocide definition 

I understand either due to ignorance or more malevolent intentions...the Hindu media is hell bent on painting it as genocide..but nothing of that sort is happening. Just like India is getting labeled as rape capital and pretty soon the beef killers..it is of the same scale and same labeling.

 

And yes there are rabid Islamic fanatics who commit atrocities. Similarly there are rabid Hindu idiots who kill people in the name of religion. Our religion is more peaceful ..we are more educated. Calling for crimes and spreading hatred against a community doesn't make us stronger .it makes us equally uncouth and savage as them.

 

Godhra riots - Officially about 800 Muslims died and 300 Hindus excluding 59 in the train burning died. What do LeLis call it - Muslim Pofrom!
BD Hind pupulation went from 22% to 6% when will you call it a genocide?  The extent of killings and damage is nothing compared to what Muslims go through inIndia. It is exponentially more and targetted.  In communal riots in India , which has become so rare post-2014, Hindus and Muslims die in almost equal numbers, but what you LeLis call it, Hindus are going around killing Muslims in the name of religion. Muslims dieing is mostly in retaliation for ex: Delhi riots in 2020. 

 

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, straighttalk said:

Agree that Christians have moved on from medieval barbarism in these days but we have Jihadis committing terrorism and cow vigilantes lynching people for their beliefs, ..one is well established..the other is just starting..not too long when the latter takes the same scale..may not be stupid enough to do suicide bombing but certainly rabid enough to commit genocide and kill people of other religions. So no amount of your hate mongering will make me want to spoil Hinduism and India's name as you call for killing innocent Muslims. If you want to arrest and punish terrorist or Islamic fundamentalist..then I support you but get the Hindu jihadis along with them to jail.

 

You are way off .. Hindu jihadis.. Ar you Rahul Gandhi ? He is worried about Hindu terror. It is a blatant lie and false narrative. Don't spread it. 

[coffee_rules]

3 hours ago, straighttalk said:

How many HINDUS died in this violence? Millions..thousands..hundreds.. 10 ...at what number is it time enough to send our men to die to protect citizens of other countries...at what time do we decide..that it is good enough to kill millions of innocent Muslims to avenge the death of 10 foreigners to satiate our blood lust...because we are a nation of war mongering savages as our history has shown..at what point is it good enough for you - the fundamentalist section of Hinduism to kill murder and rape Muslim men women and children to solve the real *ing problems plaguing this country...at what point your thuggery is enough to fool the improverished people and the pathetic state of 80 percent of the country

10? The current estimate on a conservative estimate is close to 300 and the rapes - unaccounted. What are you blabbering labout  killing Muslims in retaliation? Why are you playing victim for them? They are no way a dara hua mussalman as you guys claim. They start riots with stone-pelting and killing and then play victim. I am talking about saving Hindus from BD and not killing people back in India. Take off your green glasses!

Edited September 9, 2024 by coffee_rules

[Lone Wolf]

Vishwaguru getting bullied by a Kanglu Yunus... It is pathetic @Gollum

Weakest PM in our history 

 

[diga]

17 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Vishwaguru getting bullied by a Kanglu Yunus... It is pathetic @Gollum

Weakest PM in our history 

 

LOL.. mainly Bongs eat Hilsa.. who cares 

[Lone Wolf]

53 minutes ago, diga said:

LOL.. mainly Bongs eat Hilsa.. who cares 

Joke's on you if you think that's the actual concern