coffee_rules Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 (edited) https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/in-a-first-ukraine-fires-us-missiles-in-russia-why-it-matters/articleshow/115456852.cms Moscow says first Ukrainian attack on Russia with US-made missiles signals west wants to escalate conflict – Russia- https://amp.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/nov/19/russia-ukraine-war-live-moscow-kyiv-volodymyr-zelenskyy-latest-news-updates Edited November 19 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 (edited) I can only hope that Russians do not retaliate. But what if Russian start arming Houthis or Assad with sophisticated missils and let them use it freely on whoever they want (Americans) Road to peace is being made even more difficult by Biden administration Edited November 19 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Exactly why i never liked dems post the obama era. War mongers and regime change specialists. ravishingravi and Laaloo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 Heard, estimates are that North Korea will be sending tens of thousands of more troops to Russia. While South Koreans are saying they will have to join war if NK becomes part of it. Just hope Putin and Russian keep their cool and Trump makes Zelensky pay for not heeding his advice to stop the war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 11 hours ago, G_B_ said: Exactly why i never liked dems post the obama era. War mongers and regime change specialists. Someone wants this war to continue and profit. The kali pathaar is obvious here. They want this to escalate so trump couldn’t stop it. ravishingravi, G_B_ and Laaloo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 (edited) Russian hit US embassy in kyiv. US advised its staff to avoid embassy and use shelters. Hope commin sense is back among BIDEN and CO. ie NO further NATO missile attack on Russia from Ukranian Territory Edited November 20 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 12 hours ago, mishra said: Heard, estimates are that North Korea will be sending tens of thousands of more troops to Russia. While South Koreans are saying they will have to join war if NK becomes part of it. Just hope Putin and Russian keep their cool and Trump makes Zelensky pay for not heeding his advice to stop the war They already did send. US giving these missiles is response to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Stan AF said: They already did send. US giving these missiles is response to that. That was just estimated to be 2000-8000 troops for firing Korean arms/training. Talk is that they could send upto 100,000 soldiers. US giving missile was just testing response from Russia. Now, hope they have learned that Russian will attack US assets if US provides arms to hit Russia Edited November 20 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 We haven't been closer to nuclear war in decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 Nuke Kiev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 It’s scary. Allways knew that Biden and co want war, But I never thought they will be so desperate for it. Do not understand what exactly Democrats are worried about in case Trump or Republican, comes to Power. I am definitely missing some fundamentals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 If Kiev had nuclear weapons, they would have already used it. Don’t mind if Keiv gets carpet bombed now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianRenegade Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 (edited) 7 hours ago, mishra said: If Kiev had nuclear weapons, they would have already used it. Don’t mind if Keiv gets carpet bombed now lol wow... you literally had Russia sending missiles into keiv for the entire course of the war & even bombed hospitals. But the first time Ukraine has the ability to respond with actual long-range missiles, you have Russophiles wanting to carpet bomb a city which is literally filled with civilians. so much for being antiwar! you aren't antiwar you are just against the ability of the side you don't like to be able to defend itself. if you were antiwar you be condemning the Russian invasion because invading another sovereign country is actual war! Edited November 21 by IndianRenegade Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 21 Author Share Posted November 21 1 hour ago, IndianRenegade said: lol wow... you literally had Russia sending missiles into keiv for the entire course of the war & even bombed hospitals. But the first time Ukraine has the ability to respond with actual long-range missiles, you have Russophiles wanting to carpet bomb a city which is literally filled with civilians. so much for being antiwar! you aren't antiwar you are just against the ability of the side you don't like to be able to defend itself. if you were antiwar you be condemning the Russian invasion because invading another sovereign country is actual war! Russia and Ukraine had a peace accord that EU agreed, no Russian offense in Ukraine as long as no NATO so close to the Russian border. What was the need for Dems to push Zelensky, a dictator, to bring down a democratically elected government that made peace with Ruskies, just so they can trigger this war. Now they give them missiles while we pay 15 dollars for butter. Nobody wanted this war , esp regular Americans who taxes are funding this war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IndianRenegade Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Russia and Ukraine had a peace accord that EU agreed, no Russian offense in Ukraine as long as no NATO so close to the Russian border. What was the need for Dems to push Zelensky, a dictator, to bring down a democratically elected government that made peace with Ruskies, just so they can trigger this war. Now they give them missiles while we pay 15 dollars for butter. Nobody wanted this war , esp regular Americans who taxes are funding this war Dude I don’t know where to start, but let’s start with the funny republican or tea party parallel that goes like this, it was obama’s (who became POTUS in Jan 2009) fault that US got into the 2003 Iraq war. Likewise it is the Democrats fault that Zelenskyy who started his election campaign in 2018 & became president in 2019 by winning 73% of vote, there by became a dictator, and what was even more cunning was the fact the democrats did all this when Donald trump was the president from 2017-2021 & made him send offensive weapons that Obama had refused to send! They also physically forced Putin to attack Ukraine when he wouldn’t make the call. Evil dems! Edited November 21 by IndianRenegade Alam_dar, Stan AF and zen 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 21 Author Share Posted November 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: Dude I don’t know where to start, but let’s start with the funny republican or tea party parallel that goes like this, it was obama’s (who became POTUS in Jan 2009) fault that US got into the 2003 Iraq war. Likewise it is the Democrats fault that Zelenskyy who started his election campaign in 2018 & became president in 2019 by winning 73% of vote, there by became a dictator, and what was even more cunning was the fact the democrats did all this when Donald trump was the president from 2017-2021 & made him send offensive weapons that Obama had refused to send! They also physically forced Putin to attack Ukraine when he wouldn’t make the call. Evil dems! It was deep state -Dems or republicans don’t matter. Ok, when did the escalation or war started under? The administration and deep state go together in war efforts P.S: Thanks for responding in such a decent manner, without ad hominems or personal jibes. A model way to argue for some of the ICFers to follow . Edited November 21 by coffee_rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: Dude I don’t know where to start, but let’s start with the funny republican or tea party parallel that goes like this, it was obama’s (who became POTUS in Jan 2009) fault that US got into the 2003 Iraq war. Likewise it is the Democrats fault that Zelenskyy who started his election campaign in 2018 & became president in 2019 by winning 73% of vote, there by became a dictator, and what was even more cunning was the fact the democrats did all this when Donald trump was the president from 2017-2021 & made him send offensive weapons that Obama had refused to send! They also physically forced Putin to attack Ukraine when he wouldn’t make the call. Evil dems! I too laughed when Putin adminstration claimed that Issue of Russia Ukraine is same as India Pakistan with assumption that if Kashmir became part of PAkistan and then started killing Hindus in Pakistan. I had to go all the way back to world war II to understand as to why Pakistan was created. Was it jbecause of Islam or was Islam was just a Vessel to achieve means as There were more Muslim left in India despite partition. And then I did my research on Russia Ukraine. I am not good at historical Names and dates but Russian administration was absolutely correct when they said so. Its only now I understand, issue is Exactly same. Only Difference is India is a eunach when it comes to saving Hindus in erstwhile pre partition regions of India. Russians arent. Its a war between NATO and Russia. It has to be seen in same lens. PS: Imran khan is in Prison despite 80% of Pakistani population behind them and Yunus is ruling Bangladesh despite zero votes. Democrats are masters of rehgime change. Be it in name of Arab Spring or War against Terror, or Human Rights or Democracy or religious freedom. Edited November 21 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 UKs Long range missile Storm Shadow Fired by Ukraine. Dutch has delivered 18 out of 24 F-16s to Ukraine. Would be lovely to watch investment going to Ashes by S-400s. A nice battle readiness test for Indians Future Gen Tech transferred S-500 system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Russians have put NATO in place by showing how big the gao is,. While they can intercept US/UK missiles, US hasn’t got ability to intercept them Well done Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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