Pak tour of SA discussion thread | 3 T20I, 3 ODI & 2 Tests | 12 Dec - 3 Jan

[Gollum]

15 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

And
Afghanistan exists to toy with Pakistan
SriLanka exists to do naagin dance with Bangladesh.

Whole SC is a basketcase. 

[vvvslaxman]

Pak sucks. I don't even feel like trolling these bozos lol  They perform as expected. That is their capacity.  I think we just focus on Hobbits first. They are owning us home, awa, neutral. We need to address that first.

[First class]

6 hours ago, Sgattick10 said:

Saffers win 2-0 well done now go and beat Aus in Wtc final 

No chance , SA is not a strong team , only can beat minnows . 

[First class]

6 hours ago, New guy said:

Won with 10 wickets, with a day to spare, on the flattest of flat wicket, but according to some its bad captaincy.

Bad team , no captaincy. 

[New guy]

11 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

He was a shi* captain throughout the World Cup as well. Just his captaincy in the Semifinal should've been enough to boot him out. 

 

Him enforcing the follow on this flat pitch was an exceptionally poor decision. 

 

And not everything is based on bias simply because you cant see it. 

 

 

Why are you bringing ODIs into tests? Kohli was a great test captain but shitty LOI captain.

 

And again you haven't told why it was a bad decision when they won by 10 wickets with a day to spare.

 

Their batting is decent, he just wanted to give his new bowlers practice before WTC final.

Edited January 7, 2025 by New guy

[diga]

2 hours ago, New guy said:

Why are you bringing ODIs into tests? Kohli was a great test captain but shitty LOI captain.

Given the fast bowling resources which Kohli had, would somebody have captained better ? probably as we did win games where Ajinkya captained under Kumble (as coach) or in Australia during the previous BGT

[New guy]

10 minutes ago, diga said:

Given the fast bowling resources which Kohli had, would somebody have captained better ? probably as we did win games where Ajinkya captained under Kumble (as coach) or in Australia during the previous BGT

The same fast bowlers who were average before started bowling like demons under him. Ishant is an example. Every single bowler bowled better under him than previous captain

 

Bhuvi averaged 22 under him, Ishant who has a career average of 32 in 105 matches averaged 25 in 43 matches under him.

 

 

He was specifically focused on fast bowling in that era, dravid took it back to spin focus.

 

I can guarantee same bowlers like Ishant or yadav or bhuvi won't bowl as well under rohit or anyone else. They didn't understand Dhoni.

Edited January 7, 2025 by New guy

[Nikhil_cric]

2 hours ago, New guy said:

Why are you bringing ODIs into tests? Kohli was a great test captain but shitty LOI captain.

 

And again you haven't told why it was a bad decision when they won by 10 wickets with a day to spare.

 

Their batting is decent, he just wanted to give his new bowlers practice before WTC final.

Yes, he wanted to give practice to his new bowlers for a final 5 months away by bowling them into the ground on a flat wicket. 

 

 

[New guy]

15 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Yes, he wanted to give practice to his new bowlers for a final 5 months away by bowling them into the ground on a flat wicket. 

 

 

They don't have any test matches between this and wtc final, this is the only international practice they get.

 

And how exactly was anyone bowled to the ground, each of theirs workload was way lower than Bumrahs, for example bumrah bowled 53 overs in 4th test, rabada who bowled most overs bowled just 40 overs in this test match. Other bowlers bowled much less. 

 

And it was just a two match series, so the bowlers hardly bowled much overall unlike our bowlers bowling in a 5 match series. Who was bowled into the ground?

Edited January 7, 2025 by New guy

[Nikhil_cric]

5 minutes ago, New guy said:

They don't have any test matches between this and wtc final, this is the only international practice they get.

 

And how exactly was anyone bowled to the ground, each of theirs workload was way lower than Bumrahs, for example bumrah bowled 53 overs in 4th test, rabada who bowled most overs bowled just 40 overs in this test match. Other bowlers bowled much less. 

 

And it was just a two match series, so the bowlers hardly bowled much overall unlike our bowlers bowling in a 5 match series. Who was bowled into the ground?

He bowled 40 overs without any rest in between the innings. It's not the same thing when you keep getting brought back for spell after spell. 

 

It's why he was trundling at 130 kph at the end of it. 

 

This was a pretty long home season with Jansen and Rabada taking part in multiple formats across the India/SL/PAK tours . 

 

Also that 4th Test is why Bumrah eventually broke down in the 5th Test. Not really making your argument 

 

And multi format bowlers are at greater risk of injury when their workloads keep varying. 

 

They'll also be bowling in the SA20 soon and they'll be exhausted by the time the Champions Trophy comes around. 

 

What good is this so called practice for a Test match that is 5 months away ?

 

They can easily play a domestic match or 2 which runs through April.  

 

And finally , you yourself were questioning the decision to follow on in the match thread. 

[New guy]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

He bowled 40 overs without any rest in between the innings. It's not the same thing when you keep getting brought back for spell after spell. 

 

It's why he was trundling at 130 kph at the end of it. 

 

This was a pretty long home season with Jansen and Rabada taking part in multiple formats across the India/SL/PAK tours . 

 

Also that 4th Test is why Bumrah eventually broke down in the 5th Test. Not really making your argument 

 

And multi format bowlers are at greater risk of injury when their workloads keep varying. 

 

They'll also be bowling in the SA20 soon and they'll be exhausted by the time the Champions Trophy comes around. 

 

What good is this so called practice for a Test match that is 5 months away ?

 

They can easily play a domestic match or 2 which runs through April.  

 

And finally , you yourself were questioning the decision to follow on in the match thread. 

40 overs over 2 days on a rare occasion. is nothing for a fast bowler. I can understand the concern if it was a 5 match series, but in a 2 match series? Really?

 

Cummins has been doing that every match for a long long time even in 5 match series. Come on dude, just admit it.

[Nikhil_cric]

19 minutes ago, New guy said:

40 overs over 2 days on a rare occasion. is nothing for a fast bowler. I can understand the concern if it was a 5 match series, but in a 2 match series? Really?

 

Cummins has been doing that every match for a long long time even in 5 match series. Come on dude, just admit it.

Is a whole season dude. It's not just 2 Test matches. 

 

And Cummins hasnt been doing that back to back especially when there's no qualification on the line. 

In fact he's skipping the SL series most likely. 

[Lord]

[Lord]

@New guy Bavuma loved by Indians

 

 

[New guy]

On 1/7/2025 at 12:44 PM, Nikhil_cric said:

Is a whole season dude. It's not just 2 Test matches. 

 

And Cummins hasnt been doing that back to back especially when there's no qualification on the line. 

In fact he's skipping the SL series most likely. 

Dude they played 6 tests in 3 months of their "whole season". Lol

[Nikhil_cric]

11 hours ago, New guy said:

Dude they played 6 tests in 3 months of their "whole season". Lol

You clearly don't understand multi format workloads or the fact that not every bowler is equally durable. 

[New guy]

6 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

You clearly don't understand multi format workloads or the fact that not every bowler is equally durable. 

Which bowler from this test bowled in multiple formats, my dude? Rabada bowled in 2 ODIs and 9 T20s in entire 2024, last T20 he played was in June. 

 

 

[Nikhil_cric]

20 minutes ago, New guy said:

Which bowler from this test bowled in multiple formats, my dude? Rabada bowled in 2 ODIs and 9 T20s in entire 2024, last T20 he played was in June. 

 

 

Bruh. This season is not over . He is going to play the entire SA 20 after this. You do realise that ?

[jf1gp_1]

On 1/9/2025 at 12:07 AM, Lord said:

@New guy Bavuma loved by Indians

 

 

let Indians buy big bash teams and you will see the same