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Posted
2 hours ago, New guy said:

Dravid has a big role in what GG inherited, the time to take tough steps was under him, he chickened out and Gambhir is paying the price. 

As a fresh coach coming in, Gambhir had every chance to clean the stables. What you are implying is that he is somehow condemned to carry on with the inherited team and can't make any changes so carries no culpability even though he is in charge of the team.

If that is really the case then he should be replaced by someone who can make changes even if involves ruffling a few feathers in the team and BCCI.

Posted (edited)
56 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Kuldeep's bowling is overrated.  Plus his novelty factor is gone (long ago). Varun C should ideally replace him for CT.  

Kuldeep has taken 53 wickets at 20.86 and an economy of 4.46 since Jan, 2023

 

He is the best wicket taking ODI spinner we have. 

 

Can't discard him without giving him a proper run after his rehab. 

Edited by Nikhil_cric
Posted
1 hour ago, Frustrated said:

Kuldeep's bowling is overrated.  Plus his novelty factor is gone (long ago). Varun C should ideally replace him for CT.  

 

you call everyone overrated :bebored:

Posted
42 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Kuldeep has taken 53 wickets at 20.86 and an economy of 4.46 since Jan, 2023

 

He is the best wicket taking ODI spinner we have. 

 

Can't discard him without giving him a proper run after his rehab. 

Confirmed now Varun into the ODI side

 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Finger spinner/ mystery spin of Varun vs Wrist spin of Kuldeep which works well in Dubai??

@Nikhil_cric

 

Varun can be milked. But if they attack he'll be successful

Posted
1 hour ago, lemsip said:

As a fresh coach coming in, Gambhir had every chance to clean the stables. What you are implying is that he is somehow condemned to carry on with the inherited team and can't make any changes so carries no culpability even though he is in charge of the team.

If that is really the case then he should be replaced by someone who can make changes even if involves ruffling a few feathers in the team and BCCI.

No he didn't, because as multiple posts have pointed out, he is being over ruled by agarkar and rohit every time.  No coach can do anything under the circumstances 

 

But good to see you quiet ankit the real cancer, the seniors 

Posted
50 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Finger spinner/ mystery spin of Varun vs Wrist spin of Kuldeep which works well in Dubai??

@Nikhil_cric

Going by ILT20, wrist spinners like Hasaranga and Zampa have shown more wicket taking threat and finger spinners have only been economical .

 

But it might be different in ODI's. 

 

Back in Asia Cup 2018,  Chahal was less effective than Jadeja.

 

For me the key is whether there's going to be dew or not. 

 

Those Asia Cup pitches were often  sluggish in the afternoon and batting beauties by night. 

 

In case the pitches play better by day or we lose the toss and we are forced to defend under lights , we need the extra fast bowler instead of 4 spinners 

 

 

Posted
19 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Going by ILT20, wrist spinners like Hasaranga and Zampa have shown more wicket taking threat and finger spinners have only been economical .

 

But it might be different in ODI's. 

 

Back in Asia Cup 2018,  Chahal was less effective than Jadeja.

 

For me the key is whether there's going to be dew or not. 

 

Those Asia Cup pitches were often  sluggish in the afternoon and batting beauties by night. 

 

In case the pitches play better by day or we lose the toss and we are forced to defend under lights , we need the extra fast bowler instead of 4 spinners 

 

 

They need to dump Jadeja and add Harshit Rana.  Bumrah is out of CT if reports are true.

Posted (edited)
44 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

They need to dump Jadeja and add Harshit Rana.  Bumrah is out of CT if reports are true.

Then, imo, they should add Rana and another pacer.  4 spinners is a joke.  Even in the Caribbean, Chahal was a complete waste of a spot in the squad. 

 

Even if it's a domestic guy like Anshul Kamboj, it's fine 

 

 

Edited by Nikhil_cric
Posted
1 hour ago, New guy said:

No he didn't, because as multiple posts have pointed out, he is being over ruled by agarkar and rohit every time.  No coach can do anything under the circumstances 

 

How does this even make sense ? Apparently Gambhir had enough influence to drop Rohit, the all powerful captain per you,  from  in the 5th test but according to you he is a helpless bystander when it comes to other decisions.

Your argument is basically that Gambhir is just a common person occupying the coach slot and nothing can be expected from him because all decisions are made by Agarkar and Rohit.

Posted (edited)

In the England series, the question will be on No. of batsman vs no. of allrounders vs no of bowlers. Who is going to do these roles is yet in the air. Everybody knows the superstar Top 3 and the 2 veteran all-rounders will play.

 

In the T20 series, Surya played 3 batsmen, 4 all-rounders, 3 bowlers consistently (Batting up to No. 8, 7 bowling options)

In ODIs, in the WC we saw 5 batsmen, 1 all rounder, and 4 bowlers (Batting up to No. 7, 5 bowling options)

 

Hardik is back and having 5 batters was unusual, so ODI team will have 4 batsman, 2 all-rounders, and 4 bowlers. This ensures they have 6 bowling options.

Team: Rohit, Virat, Gill, Shreyas, WK, Jadeja, Hardik, Harshit Rana, Arshdeep, Shami, Kuldeep Yadav

 

If they want to bat till No. 8, they replace a bowler (Kuldeep) for an allrounder (Axar or Washy): 4 batsman, 3 all-rounders, and 3 bowlers.

Team: Rohit, Virat, Gill, Shreyas, WK, Jadeja, Hardik, Axar Patel, Harshit Rana, Arshdeep, Shami

 

If they want seven bowling options, they replace the No. 4 batter (Shreyas) for an allrounder (Washy): 3 batsman, 4 all-rounders, and 3 bowlers.

Team: Rohit, Virat, Gill, WK, Washy, Jadeja, Hardik, Axar Patel, Harshit Rana, Arshdeep, Shami

 

I prefer the last one, exactly like the T20 team!

 

Edited by Chamsi
Posted (edited)

Our team needs a good pitch inspector.. infact bcci should advertise for this role and pay that guy good amount of money. You then go with 4-1-2-4 or 4-1-1-5 combination factoring  the inspector's advise. You don't pick chahal in rainy conditions sf19 or spinners in bengaluru test

Edited by Vk1

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