mishra Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said: As Bakshi saab and Gaurav Arya said current Ceasefire arrangement suits Pakistan. Their Army is free to turn their attention towards the Western front. Doval should have been fired long back for this unimaginable blunder. UAE Saudis and US trapped us into this mess. Unless and Until Ceasefire is null and void .. and Pak army comes back on Eastern front... They would start getting banged on three fronts... India AFG Baloch front. It will be worst nightmare for Pak Fouj. Body bags would flood in Pakjabi villages. Big Powers dont fight the war themselves. However, I accept the view that since we arent there yet, Also, we are nxt door, We should help Afghans to settle Durand line from our side. Lone Wolf and raki05 1 1
MechEng Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 9 minutes ago, Gollum said: When were Hindus and Muslims at peace side by side? 1000+ years problem, unfair to blame it on Brits. India used to be a syncretic society, not all wars were always religiously motivated (that doesn't justify the barbarism either). When Timur invaded India, Delhi was not exactly majority Hindu at that time, yet he did not hesitate in his brutality against his subcontinental ummahs Even if you consider the recent context, you cannot ignore the strong backing/support from US/UK in letting Pakistan go scott free all the time.
coffee_rules Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 4 minutes ago, MechEng said: India used to be a syncretic society, not all wars were always religiously motivated (that doesn't justify the barbarism either). When Timur invaded India, Delhi was not exactly majority Hindu at that time, yet he did not hesitate in his brutality against his subcontinental ummahs Even if you consider the recent context, you cannot ignore the strong backing/support from US/UK in letting Pakistan go scott free all the time. Beginning of Cold war, US/UK wanted a vassal state (esp Gilgit baltistan) which was bordering USSR at that time. NATO wanted Pakistan to happen as a buffer to fight USSR. Lone Wolf and raki05 2
Gollum Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 Btw Manipur violence is still going on. Heart also goes out to Meiteis who are protecting dharma from the clutches of missionaries, both from within and Myanmar/USA based. In NE reddit subs many were asking why Indians aren't outraged about Manipur like Kashmir. Truth be told, we have failed the indigenous people of NE, 4 pronged attack there: China, Missionaries, Kanglus, rogue elements from Myanmar. raki05 1
Lone Wolf Posted April 24, 2025 Author Posted April 24, 2025 1 minute ago, MechEng said: India used to be a syncretic society, not all wars were always religiously motivated (that doesn't justify the barbarism either). When Timur invaded India, Delhi was not exactly majority Hindu at that time, yet he did not hesitate in his brutality against his subcontinental ummahs Even if you consider the recent context, you cannot ignore the strong backing/support from US/UK in letting Pakistan go scott free all the time. Dude Timur butchered Hindus of Delhi. Only craftsmen and artisans were left alive for their usage. He called Delhi Sultans useless when it comes to enforcing Islam. Even evil Aurangzeb would be a Sufi badshah compared to that monster.
mishra Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, MechEng said: India used to be a syncretic society, not all wars were always religiously motivated (that doesn't justify the barbarism either). When Timur invaded India, Delhi was not exactly majority Hindu at that time, yet he did not hesitate in his brutality against his subcontinental ummahs Even if you consider the recent context, you cannot ignore the strong backing/support from US/UK in letting Pakistan go scott free all the time. Muslims nations fight,loot and kill with everyone. Not just with nxt country, Muslims fight and their fellow countrymen because he isnt pure enough. SO why wouldnt Taimur attack Delhi. But when they attack, they may not kill Muslim but non Muslims will surely be killed(Exactly same thing happened in Phalgham, One Muslim man got killed but all Hindus killed) raki05 1
mishra Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 Every International analyst is expecting a military response from GoI. So its given, Most Capitals have accepted that India will militarily respond. Ball is in Modi's Court raki05 1
Gollum Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MechEng said: India used to be a syncretic society, not all wars were always religiously motivated (that doesn't justify the barbarism either). When Timur invaded India, Delhi was not exactly majority Hindu at that time, yet he did not hesitate in his brutality against his subcontinental ummahs Even if you consider the recent context, you cannot ignore the strong backing/support from US/UK in letting Pakistan go scott free all the time. Syed Ahmad Khan was the first person to talk about two nation theory. He was a despicable character but these words must be printed on the body parts of every Hindu. "At this time our nation is in a bad state in regards education and wealth, but God has given us the light of religion and the Quran is present for our guidance, which has ordained them and us to be friends. Now God has made them rulers over us. Therefore we should cultivate friendship with them, and should adopt that method by which their rule may remain permanent and firm in India, and may not pass into the hands of the Bengalis... If we join the political movement of the Bengalis our nation will reap a loss, for we do not want to become subjects of the Hindus instead of the subjects of the "people of the Book..."[153] Later in his life he said: "Suppose that the English community and the army were to leave India, taking with them all their cannons and their splendid weapons and all else, who then would be the rulers of India?... Is it possible that under these circumstances two nations — the Mohammedans and the Hindus — could sit on the same throne and remain equal in power? Most certainly not. It is necessary that one of them should conquer the other. To hope that both could remain equal is to desire the impossible and the inconceivable. But until one nation has conquered the other and made it obedient, peace cannot reign in the land." Edited April 24, 2025 by Gollum
mishra Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gollum said: Syed Ahmad Khan was the first person to talk about two nation theory. He was a despicable character but these words must be printed on the minds of every Hindu. "At this time our nation is in a bad state in regards education and wealth, but God has given us the light of religion and the Quran is present for our guidance, which has ordained them and us to be friends. Now God has made them rulers over us. Therefore we should cultivate friendship with them, and should adopt that method by which their rule may remain permanent and firm in India, and may not pass into the hands of the Bengalis... If we join the political movement of the Bengalis our nation will reap a loss, for we do not want to become subjects of the Hindus instead of the subjects of the "people of the Book..."[153] Later in his life he said: "Suppose that the English community and the army were to leave India, taking with them all their cannons and their splendid weapons and all else, who then would be the rulers of India?... Is it possible that under these circumstances two nations — the Mohammedans and the Hindus — could sit on the same throne and remain equal in power? Most certainly not. It is necessary that one of them should conquer the other. To hope that both could remain equal is to desire the impossible and the inconceivable. But until one nation has conquered the other and made it obedient, peace cannot reign in the land." Last line is Chanakya principle. Either conquer or be conquered. Thats how it works Edited April 24, 2025 by mishra
Lone Wolf Posted April 24, 2025 Author Posted April 24, 2025 4 minutes ago, Gollum said: In NE reddit subs many were asking why Indians aren't outraged about Manipur like Kashmir. It is unfortunate but security of Entire North India is solely dependent on Kashmir.. It acts as an invaluable mountainous buffer state..As long as it is ours we are all safe and sound. Invading Kashmir throughout the course of History has been most tedious task. From Afghans Turks to Mughals all have struggled here. It was the final Hindu fortress to fall.
G_B_ Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 31 minutes ago, mishra said: Can we increase unknown Gunmen count and their target count to 100 fold in next 10-12 month? Can we diplomatically and economically Support Afghans cause over their Durand line Dispute? Can we raise Baloch cause in Global forums as well open a diplomatic office for them in Noida(If Not Delhi)? Unknown gunman need to target fouj and isi families. mishra 1
G_B_ Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 12 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Fresh water resources for pak need to dip below 500 cubic meters per capita. It is possible within 3 years with small diversions. randomGuy and ravishingravi 2
kepler37b Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 10 minutes ago, mishra said: Last line is Chanakya principle. Either conquer or be conquered. Thats how it works Seeing all this I am convinced that Sikhism was a Dharmic response to islamic barbarism. Sad that it did not spread beyond punjab. Imagine india with 40 percent sikh population. Would have been much harsh and strong on islamic barbarism. Baad me jaaye economy and other aspects. Culture and way of life trumps everything. Down here, in telugu lands, I find more vigour in christian pastors at countering islam than fattu hindu gurus. ravishingravi, Sgattick10, mishra and 2 others 3 2
MechEng Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 29 minutes ago, Gollum said: Syed Ahmad Khan was the first person to talk about two nation theory. He was a despicable character but these words must be printed on the body parts of every Hindu. "At this time our nation is in a bad state in regards education and wealth, but God has given us the light of religion and the Quran is present for our guidance, which has ordained them and us to be friends. Now God has made them rulers over us. Therefore we should cultivate friendship with them, and should adopt that method by which their rule may remain permanent and firm in India, and may not pass into the hands of the Bengalis... If we join the political movement of the Bengalis our nation will reap a loss, for we do not want to become subjects of the Hindus instead of the subjects of the "people of the Book..."[153] Later in his life he said: "Suppose that the English community and the army were to leave India, taking with them all their cannons and their splendid weapons and all else, who then would be the rulers of India?... Is it possible that under these circumstances two nations — the Mohammedans and the Hindus — could sit on the same throne and remain equal in power? Most certainly not. It is necessary that one of them should conquer the other. To hope that both could remain equal is to desire the impossible and the inconceivable. But until one nation has conquered the other and made it obedient, peace cannot reign in the land." I am not contesting here that muslims and Hindus never had peaceful relations. My concern has always been about the powers that fed Pakistan to carry on with it's terrorism without bearing consequences. Who educated Pakistan about nuclear energy? Who gave them all the fancy military toys when there was no evidence of them being attacked unprovoked? (while there was ample evidence of Pakistan starting all wars) Why is IMF bailing them out all the time? Pakistan would have always been anti India irrespective of their global influence, but they would never gone this far today had they didn't get all the nourishment from superior powers.
Gollum Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 5 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: If Pakistanis cannot live in Pakistan, Where do you think they will come? Ind-Pak border isn't porous like Ind-BD. Anyway none of this will happen. Things will cool down soon, India doesn't have the heart for a prolonged struggle. No easy solution here and historically our people have never waged long, bloody offensive wars. Few airstrikes, elimination of Pak terror training camps, and our awam will be satisfied. That is our aukaat for the foreseeable future. Also we don't have an air force worth talking about. Doubt higher ups will want to expose this uncomfortable truth.
coffee_rules Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 6 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Seeing very disturbing visuals from the Pahalgam attacks. Om Shanti! This is beyond acceptable.i strongly hope we self-ban in any ICC match against Pak, Shout out to @bharathh Hope you doing fine, bro! ravishingravi and kepler37b 2
MechEng Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 12 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Shout out to @bharathh Hope you doing fine, bro! Did he give any indication that he was about to travel later in April?
coffee_rules Posted April 24, 2025 Posted April 24, 2025 Just now, MechEng said: Did he give any indication that he was about to travel later in April? No, he has not posted since April 16th. But the father's name shows he is from Karnataka, I doubt @bhrathh is from Karnataka.
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