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2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

The face of the worker - knew exactly what was happening. Look how cold bloodly sent the man down to his death. That is the face of hatred, radical Islam.. like watching the cold blooded killers in the series - Mindhunter.  He is so casual and didn't even try to save him. And they want people to tour Kashmir with such cold blooded psychopaths.. like sitting ducks. I hate all the dicks on SM going around preaching others to visit Kashmir. Call it a MZ and be done with all the tourism BS. IDC about locals losing livelihood. 

Have seen this first hand on my every trip to Kashmir. 

That's why I used to laugh at  Jhandu PR Reporting of Indian journalists in Kashmir.

Once you cross Qazigund it is a completely different place if you are perceptive enough to notice.

5 minutes of real talk with a local is enough.

I found Chenab valley Muslims (non Kashmiri ,South of Pir Panjal) a lot better than these Jihadis.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Have seen this first hand on my every trip to Kashmir. 

That's why I used to laugh at  Jhandu PR Reporting of Indian journalists in Kashmir.

Once you cross Qazigund it is a completely different place if you are perceptive enough to notice.

5 minutes of real talk with a local is enough.

I found Chenab valley Muslims (non Kashmiri ,South of Pir Panjal) a lot better than these Jihadis.

Someone said, 70% of Kashmiri awam are Terrorists sympathizers and are  favorable to Pak as it is a Islamic nation. I am not sure of that data and I feel there could be more than that. I have been told that some hotels have wifi password as FO1234 and when they talk they specifically exclaim, "O! You are from India?" as if they are living in a foreign country. They are very hostile or absolutely cold to tourists. 2 or 3 generations have seen the heights of conflict since 1987 or so and the younger generation  have reached a point of no return to India! Archana Tiwari's videos are an eye-opener. The MiLaudas who wanted to hold elections have to be asked to visit Pahalgam and stay in Srinagar for a month. Absolute rubbish SC judges.

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Why are Ms doing riots/violence when some random guy insults Pak flag? Just what is it with this qaum? Similar news from Rajasthan, Karnataka, Telangana. 

 

They won't stand up for Vande Mataram, sometimes even national anthem. 

 

 

Posted
57 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Conflict would be eerily similar to 1965.  

Forces will clash on tougher terrain of Kashmir.  Indian Army will make decent enough gains across LoC may yet again capture Haji Pir pass.  

Paxtanis will again attack Chambb Akhnoor sector in Jammu... Activating International Border.

 

India Army  will then make a move on Sialkot and Lahore.  It will be a spectacle 

 

Navy will smoke Karachi and Sindh.

 

 

Not really, IMO.

 

Pak planned a full fledged proactive war across the LoC then....Operation Grandslam..etc..which went bust. They attacked in Kashmir, we were not fully prepared / equipped initially for the surprise and opened fronts along the international border to ease the pressure across LoC and then we entered deep into Lahore.

 

This time, Pak has no clue as to what is coming.

 

Just going by Modi's speech - about dealing with the " remaining land " - I presume he means PoK.   

 

There may be decoy attacks / movements --but I think at closure - we would have recaptured significant parts of PoK if not all. 

 

I don't think we will initiate across the international land border this time ( we may react to what Pak does - whereas in 1965 -we initiated ). 

 

Its all but 100 % certain that Navy will play a crushing role - in 1965 - the Indian navy was NOT involved in kinetic operations.

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Gollum said:

IAF is gonna be the weak link as usual. 2019 should have been a wake up call for them, but here we are.

 

Navy will be our biggest strength as is norm. 

 

 

I think we are much superior this time.

 

The F16s then had AMRAAMs and better BVR capabilties. 

 

With 36 odd Rafales this time - we are way ahead.

 

It is quite well known that the Meteor missile surpasses the AIM-120 AMRAAM, in terms of range, speed, and overall performance, especially in beyond-visual-range (BVR) scenarios ---thats why Rafale was chosen.

 

We will crush them in any BVR combat. The Meteors can get Pak F16s ( still their best jet ) ....deep into Pak territory. They won't be able to fly close to the border areas like before if Rafales are airborne.

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All the Pahalgam terrorists, including local conspirators must be tortured 10x worse than what Captain Saurabh Kalia had to endure. * human rights. 

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We should just keep bombing LoC till Pakistan has run out of retaliatory fire. If it means 1 year 2 year 10 years so be it. Let them buy weapons and shells. 
 

This war is not a war for land. Its war to economically sink Pakistan to 6th century 

Posted
1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Let's curtail out expectations. It's been over 5 days and we are yet to catch a single terrorist.

what's the rush, it's been 70 years already!

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Apart from the known 0.5 front, milords will also be a nuisance factor in coming days. They carry no less blame for this massacre, should be reason enough to implement judicial reforms and cut those *ers down to size. 

Posted
1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said:


At a young tender age poison of that evil cult is fed into young innocent children who can barely talk. Hard to shake off this kind of vicious indoctrination. 

 

 

 

Look what our schools teach? :facepalm:

 

 

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If Muslim mobs/politicians/journos/activists create nuisance in the name of waqf, let it be our Tiananmen movement. We were too lax during Shaheen Bagh, got rewarded with Delhi riots, no more. 

 

Farmer's protests was similar but didn't result in killings, and anyway no comparison between the two communities. 

Posted
Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

I think we are much superior this time.

 

The F16s then had AMRAAMs and better BVR capabilties. 

 

With 36 odd Rafales this time - we are way ahead.

 

It is quite well known that the Meteor missile surpasses the AIM-120 AMRAAM, in terms of range, speed, and overall performance, especially in beyond-visual-range (BVR) scenarios ---thats why Rafale was chosen.

 

We will crush them in any BVR combat. The Meteors can get Pak F16s ( still their best jet ) ....deep into Pak territory. They won't be able to fly close to the border areas like before if Rafales are airborne.

Pakistanis are also bolstered by J10c armed with Pl15 which is nearly as good as meteor.

IAF is indeed weakest link among the triad.

 

Achieving air superiority would not be as easy.  I am assuming some of the squadrons would be stationed along Eastern front as well.

We needed at least 2 more Rafale squadrons to be on the safer side.

Edited by Lone Wolf
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Can't rule out lone wolf attacks against Hindus in the West. Entire Islamic world will unite against us, not the leaders per se but people definitely.  

 

In fact Hindus will be safer in Gulf states than in Canada or UK. Those Arab monarchs know how to maintain law and order in their streets. 

Posted
23 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

Not really, IMO.

 

Pak planned a full fledged proactive war across the LoC then....Operation Grandslam..etc..which went bust. They attacked in Kashmir, we were not fully prepared / equipped initially for the surprise and opened fronts along the international border to ease the pressure across LoC and then we entered deep into Lahore.

 

This time, Pak has no clue as to what is coming.

 

Just going by Modi's speech - about dealing with the " remaining land " - I presume he means PoK.   

 

There may be decoy attacks / movements --but I think at closure - we would have recaptured significant parts of PoK if not all. 

 

I don't think we will initiate across the international land border this time ( we may react to what Pak does - whereas in 1965 -we initiated ). 

 

Its all but 100 % certain that Navy will play a crushing role - in 1965 - the Indian navy was NOT involved in kinetic operations.

 

 

As always path to PoK goes through Pakistani Punjab.  We have to cut their supply lines for a sustained long term battle... Mountain warfare is most tedious and hardest battle ever among the lot.  

 

We need to capture significant portion of Pakistani Punjab to make sure P@ki army has to fall back from the heights to fight us in the plains.

 

And no.. Operation Grand slam was aimed at capturing all important Akhnoor Bridge to cut out supply lines as Pakistani forces had captured significant portions of Chammb sector.   It was a deadlock until Shastri decided to open P@ki Punjab front.  The infamous Sialkot and Lahore offensive.

 

 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Why are Ms doing riots/violence when some random guy insults Pak flag? Just what is it with this qaum? Similar news from Rajasthan, Karnataka, Telangana. 

 

They won't stand up for Vande Mataram, sometimes even national anthem. 

 

 

 

They are claiming that it is a Islamic flag (green, crescent moon and star) and not just a Pakistani flag. Any insult to crescent moon and star is a gustakh-e-nabi, and they will not tolerate. But, they can insult other country flags , but others can't insult any countries' flags which have slamic symbols. This is like chith tu hara, path main heeta!

Posted
5 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Can't rule out lone wolf attacks against Hindus in the West. Entire Islamic world will unite against us, not the leaders per se but people definitely.  

 

In fact Hindus will be safer in Gulf states than in Canada or UK. Those Arab monarchs know how to maintain law and order in their streets. 

Terror attacks in other parts of India are major threat... Sleeper cells would be activated by ISI and ISPR already.

Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Pakistanis are also bolstered by J10c armed with Pl15 which is nearly as good as meteor.

IAF is indeed weakest link among the triad.

 

Achieving air superiority would not be as easy.  I am assuming some of the squadrons would be stationed along Eastern front as well.

We needed at least 2 more Rafale squadrons to be on the safer side.

 

PL15 is not combat proven - and is compatible  ONLY with Jf17 among jets that Pak has and jf17 is a much much more inferior aircraft than Rafale in every way.

 

Meteor is combat proven in several wars. Just like AMRAAM was/is.

 

The biggest difference is Meteor has huge no escape zone- more than any other air to air missile  - meaning once target locked through Rafale's superior avionics and radar and fired ...it is almost a 100 % guaranteed kill.  

 

In theory I agree PL15 has a comparable range as Meteor..but its no escape zone is much much inferior to Meteor..

 

I agree that air superiority won't be easy ....but Pak will not be able to be airborne even in their own territory and feel safe if they are within range of airborne Rafales loaded with Meteors ----- this was not true in 2019- thats why they were able to do Operation SWift retort- they knew our limitations with long range capabilities.

Edited by rangeelaraja
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